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On August 21 2010 16:05 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:
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Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same. hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. Smart decision, too. Light has basically destroyed every zerg he's faced since he got rolled by Kwanro. Why play his game when you can take him out of his comfort zone? Sooo... early aggression into cheese is his comfort zone, If all the zergs would do this i wonder what would happen to TvZ <___>
obligated.... courtesy....
i can't wait to hear what you have to say next
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On August 21 2010 16:05 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:
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Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same. hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. Smart decision, too. Light has basically destroyed every zerg he's faced since he got rolled by Kwanro. Why play his game when you can take him out of his comfort zone? Sooo... early aggression into cheese is his comfort zone, If all the zergs would do this i wonder what would happen to TvZ <___>
TvZ would become more defensive, and then Zergs would lose almost every time. Then Zergs would take advantage of this by playing more economical. Then Terran would take advantage of Zergs by playing more economical as well. Then some of the Terrans or Zergs would get too greedy, and get punished by cheese.
That's how every matchup goes. Without the threat of heavy early aggression (like DT rush, Zergling all-in, 2 hatch lurker) everyone plays very greedy all the time.
Cheese > Greedy > Safe > Cheese.
'Standard' is usually a compromise between Greedy and Safe, taking enough precautions to potentially defend any cheese, but also to potentially lose to certain cheeses.
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On August 21 2010 16:06 AppleTart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:05 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:
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hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens
Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. Smart decision, too. Light has basically destroyed every zerg he's faced since he got rolled by Kwanro. Why play his game when you can take him out of his comfort zone? Sooo... early aggression into cheese is his comfort zone, If all the zergs would do this i wonder what would happen to TvZ <___> Maybe they will build a bunker cough cough
Terrans just get too greedy sometimes i admit >_>, but what jd did feels like a terran doing bunker rush 2 times because zerg went 3 hatch before pool.
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On August 21 2010 16:07 _awake_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:05 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:
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hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens
Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. Smart decision, too. Light has basically destroyed every zerg he's faced since he got rolled by Kwanro. Why play his game when you can take him out of his comfort zone? Sooo... early aggression into cheese is his comfort zone, If all the zergs would do this i wonder what would happen to TvZ <___> obligated.... courtesy.... i can't wait to hear what you have to say next
It's common courtesy to allow your opponent to get their econ running when you 4 pool a 14cc.
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On August 21 2010 16:06 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:05 AppleTart wrote:On August 21 2010 16:04 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:02 AppleTart wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:
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Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. players aren't obligated to go to lategame It's not obligated, but i think it's courtesy to go atleast to mid game where jd can show off some good muta harrass and win. I just feel it's much cleaner and you won't get bashed on. you think JD gives a fuck if a couple guys on TL bash him? Oh yeah, It's also common courtesy to not blind 14cc 3 times Light clearly has balls  , and remember jd got his ass wooped by flash's 14cc.
all ins and 14cc are opposite sides of the "having balls" spectrum, but both test balls and stupidity arguably. It's a very careful balance.
Yes Flash's 14cc schooled JD, but it wasn't always blind AND he was doing something that worked for him to take it to mid game where he was more confident. JD just lost a late game, he doesn't want to go there because its the MSL semi's game 5. JD did what worked for him.
Like I said, Light didn't put a bunker, his problem.
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I still don't understand why zergs go mass hydra against Terran mech? Can someone explain? I hope JD doesn't do that against Flash, I think it's a ridiculous strategy, but it sometimes work.
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On August 21 2010 16:05 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:
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Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same. hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. Smart decision, too. Light has basically destroyed every zerg he's faced since he got rolled by Kwanro. Why play his game when you can take him out of his comfort zone? Sooo... early aggression into cheese is his comfort zone, If all the zergs would do this i wonder what would happen to TvZ <___>
Probably nothing, because we're only talking about Light's comfort zone?
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On August 21 2010 16:06 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:05 Creationism wrote:On August 21 2010 15:53 Lightwip wrote:On August 21 2010 15:49 DatTheMighty wrote:
To all the newbs complaining about jaedongs play please watch this game
a better terran woulda won in light's situation (I.E. Flash). lights been around these leagues since the dinosaur age if hes any good he woulda made a final long ago. focusing all your energy doing ur own strategy and not contemplating what the opponent is doing doesnt make you a winning player. Notice how in game 3 jaedong did a fake hydra all in? light had jack shit and didn't even bother putting up a bunker, jaedong prolly thought how dumb of him to fake when he woulda prolly won doing what he was trying to fake lol. light had it coming to him in the ace match, the series vs kwanroll a couple of seasons back where he loss to like all in ling rushes i dont know how many times taught him nothing. ...Please. You could say there IS no better terran than Light and you wouldn't be far from the truth. Him or Flash. If Light loses, then there's a damn good chance Flash would too. Light is no TvZ failure. What??? No better terran than Light? Are you serious? He demonstrated excellent mid-late game play today, but his early game planning and game sense was god awful. I mean he basically lost to C+ iccup strats. By ELO he is #2. Look at his record. Also, anyone can lose to being too greedy. Especially in TvZ, which is all about exploiting a weakness and repetitive rape.
It's not simply about being greedy, it was about not doing basic things to fend off aggression that is so key in pro-lvl tvz. Like Set 1, are you fucking kidding me? He is just like fantasy in that respect and he will never be "the best terran". Same in Set 5, jesus christ either hire the booth girl to install map hack for you or scout. He didn't even have a Ebay built, completely unprepared for JD's strat. Poor planning and poorer execution.
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On August 21 2010 16:10 FireGuyX wrote:
I still don't understand why zergs go mass hydra against Terran? Can someone explain?
It kills goliaths, buildings, and vultures, and if you get in a good position you can get some tanks too.
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On August 21 2010 16:10 FireGuyX wrote:
I still don't understand why zergs go mass hydra against Terran? Can someone explain? I hope JD doesn't do that against Flash, I think it's a ridiculous strategy, but it
http://www.youtube.com/nevake#p/search/8/Adq9muBjRk8
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On August 21 2010 16:10 FireGuyX wrote:
I still don't understand why zergs go mass hydra against Terran? Can someone explain? I hope JD doesn't do that against Flash, I think it's a ridiculous strategy, but it sometimes work.
Well if it works in ZvP, surely someone will make it work in ZvT someday 
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On August 21 2010 16:08 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:06 AppleTart wrote:On August 21 2010 16:05 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:03 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:
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Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. Smart decision, too. Light has basically destroyed every zerg he's faced since he got rolled by Kwanro. Why play his game when you can take him out of his comfort zone? Sooo... early aggression into cheese is his comfort zone, If all the zergs would do this i wonder what would happen to TvZ <___> Maybe they will build a bunker cough cough Terrans just get too greedy sometimes i admit >_>, but what jd did feels like a terran doing bunker rush 2 times because zerg went 3 hatch before pool.
He'd feel like an idiot and learn from his mistakes.
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On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:On August 21 2010 15:21 AppleTart wrote:On August 21 2010 15:20 Monkeyshark wrote:
In my heart, Light won today. I got nothing against Jaedong but kekekeke. after double infested CC i dont think you can even say that Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same. hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what.
Terran has a late game auto-win. Zerg has an early game advantage. WTF do you think a zerg would do? Let the Terran get his auto-win?
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On August 21 2010 16:10 AppleTart wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:06 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:05 AppleTart wrote:On August 21 2010 16:04 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:02 AppleTart wrote:On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:
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So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. players aren't obligated to go to lategame It's not obligated, but i think it's courtesy to go atleast to mid game where jd can show off some good muta harrass and win. I just feel it's much cleaner and you won't get bashed on. you think JD gives a fuck if a couple guys on TL bash him? Oh yeah, It's also common courtesy to not blind 14cc 3 times Light clearly has balls , and remember jd got his ass wooped by flash's 14cc. all ins and 14cc are opposite sides of the "having balls" spectrum, but both test balls and stupidity arguably. It's a very careful balance. Yes Flash's 14cc schooled JD, but it wasn't always blind AND he was doing something that worked for him to take it to mid game where he was more confident. JD just lost a late game, he doesn't want to go there because its the MSL semi's game 5. JD did what worked for him. Like I said, Light didn't put a bunker, his problem.
Light obviously was greedy, but no idea if he had no money at all in the first place.
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On August 21 2010 16:06 Kyuukyuu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:On August 21 2010 15:21 AppleTart wrote:
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after double infested CC i dont think you can even say that Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same. hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. He just lost to Light on Fighting Spirit, the most ZvT balanced map of the series, in a late game match. Why would he choose to do it on Polaris Rhapsody when it's the worst (iirc) ZvT map? It's sort of basic strategy to not play to your opponent's strengths... And like someone else said, players aren't obligated to go to the late game. edit: Show nested quote +Sooo... early aggression into cheese is his comfort zone, If all the zergs would do this i wonder what would happen to TvZ <___> What cheese? You just lost all credibility...
Game 5 was an allin.
Cheese is a stupid term though.
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On August 21 2010 16:10 FireGuyX wrote:
I still don't understand why zergs go mass hydra against Terran? Can someone explain?
Mass hydra/muta is generally the best composition against Terran Mech. This is because they both defeat Vultures, and Mutalisks force Terran to get lots of Goliaths (or Valkyries or Science Vessels) and therefore lack the gas for too many Siege Tanks. Hydras are then powerful against the Goliath-heavy army that Terran has.
It works better on a more open map than Odd-Eye. Odd-Eye is hard.
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On August 21 2010 16:13 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2010 16:01 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 16:00 _awake_ wrote:On August 21 2010 15:50 LuigiNMario wrote:On August 21 2010 15:48 King K. Rool wrote:On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:On August 21 2010 15:21 AppleTart wrote:
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after double infested CC i dont think you can even say that Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same. hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry. So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective. I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light. And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC). And it worked. The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports. There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other. I wouldn't say the queens were abusing anything, but early ling cheese/agression 2times was overboard. what's wrong with early ling aggression? it's the terran's fault for skimping out on defense Again, it was 2 times it was like jd refused to go to lategame no matter what. Terran has a late game auto-win. Zerg has an early game advantage. WTF do you think a zerg would do? Let the Terran get his auto-win?
Because 2 hatch mutas into ling + muta bust is so hard to incorporate into mid game TvZ right? :D
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FYCK i thought this match was 17/18 KST.... need vods asap !
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On August 21 2010 16:15 SkelA wrote:
FYCK i thought this match was 17/18 KST.... need vods asap !
I can't really say you missed any beastly games.
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This thread's fanboy/girl arguments are too weak. I'm expecting better after the finals =P
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