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3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
May 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#1701
On May 29 2010 18:19 Uranium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:17 nozaro33 wrote:
Which stream is Day casting on?


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/day9tv

u gotta put day9's sound and groby's stream on mute to get everything in sync


Just like that and it'll auto sync? Dunno if you have to manually count how much Gruby is behind and then wait that long for Day's?
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#1702
On May 29 2010 18:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:19 Nikon wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:14 Hot_Bid wrote:
Well Jaedong, I guess it's time to see if you're as mentally strong as Effort was.

If not, get ready for 100 pages of whining about "bad games."

I wonder if people will be criticizing Flash's MSL title because "Jaedong played horribly and gave Flash the win."


Well, the games so far are hardly better than the OSL finals tbh, we want our epic lategame shenanigans, not this ee han timing stuff...

You realize that the way Flash plays, its hardly likely we'll get a long, even, back and forth game. Either Flash survives early game and rolls, or the JD does enough early damage and Flash dies early.

Other than the power outage game do you remember any games where its been long and good between Flash and another Z? Maybe one or two vs Hogil, but those were still rapes.

The one vs Action was kinda back and forth undtil flash attacked 10 o clock and secured 9 o clock Action was winning
In the woods, there lurks..
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#1703
On May 29 2010 18:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:19 Nikon wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:14 Hot_Bid wrote:
Well Jaedong, I guess it's time to see if you're as mentally strong as Effort was.

If not, get ready for 100 pages of whining about "bad games."

I wonder if people will be criticizing Flash's MSL title because "Jaedong played horribly and gave Flash the win."


Well, the games so far are hardly better than the OSL finals tbh, we want our epic lategame shenanigans, not this ee han timing stuff...

You realize that the way Flash plays, its hardly likely we'll get a long, even, back and forth game. Either Flash survives early game and rolls, or the JD does enough early damage and Flash dies early.

Other than the power outage game do you remember any games where its been long and good between Flash and another Z? Maybe one or two vs Hogil, but those were still rapes.


I still have in my memory the amazing game between Flash and Jaedong on Rush Hours 3... Ah, that was a good game
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
May 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#1704
On May 29 2010 18:18 fIamewheel91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:17 rotinegg wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:16 Exteray wrote:
Poll: It's that time again. Flash is up 2-0. Should I go to sleep?

No (77)
 
67%

Yes (38)
 
33%

115 total votes

Your vote: It's that time again. Flash is up 2-0. Should I go to sleep?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



u know what happened last time

Who the fuck voted yes?!


I voted yes. Even considering going to bed when Flash plays vs JD deserves it
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
May 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#1705
On May 29 2010 18:19 Qwertify wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:12 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:11 InFdude wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:09 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:08 InFdude wrote:
I think so far the effort vs flash games were better ...less cheese.


What cheese? -_-

14cc is a calculated risk, not cheese.

Calculated ? What exactly did he calculate ? Didn't seem like he had any back up plan vs Effort.


Calculated in that he doesn't think his opponent is going for an early pool.

And versus Effort, it was more micro-missteps and bad decision making as opposed to the builds that cost him the game.


Yeah, on a two player map like destination, where your opponents overlord will scout your 14 cc rather quickly, one has to calculate the risk and I am sure Flash prepared for a Zergling rush, but his micro, which needed to be perfect (and if it was, it would have brought him a big advantage) was rather sloppy. So Flash knew that either EffOrt doesn't go early pool, or I need to micro well to defend it -> then I can push my advantage for the win. Does not sound so wrong considering Flash's micro is really good, and in previous games in the final, he was able to control his marines really well (except for that one push out that cost him another game).


Exactly. It's just, like you said, his micro (and bad decisions) failed him, not the build itself.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
May 29 2010 09:23 GMT
#1706
oh man what if Flash 14 cc's in the 3rd game...
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1707
On May 29 2010 18:23 3nickma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:19 Uranium wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:17 nozaro33 wrote:
Which stream is Day casting on?


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/day9tv

u gotta put day9's sound and groby's stream on mute to get everything in sync


Just like that and it'll auto sync? Dunno if you have to manually count how much Gruby is behind and then wait that long for Day's?

"¤R!()RUTQ)E A dane JD fan! I thought Denmark was pure in that regard !:@
In the woods, there lurks..
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1708
proxy rax incoming?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1709
The anti Boxer vs Yellow finals
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8187 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1710
On May 29 2010 18:23 Sigh wrote:
oh man what if Flash 14 cc's in the 3rd game...

Then he will get raped unless JD is an idiot.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 09:26:50
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1711
On May 29 2010 18:23 On_Slaught wrote:
There is a VERYYYYYY high chance that Flash cheeses this game.

Tough call for JD. 3hatch incase he goes 14cc or prepare for cheese...

I'd prepare for cheese. You can come back from early game disadvantage but you can straight up lose to cheese.


Why should he try to compete in macro with Flash? It doesn't work -- 14cc and Flash combined are too strong. He needs to put in some harassment/kill him early.
NaDa. Our Lord and sAviOr shall return. Learn to nydus you scrub
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1712
COME ON 4 POOL
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1713
I dont understand why Jaedong doesnt go 9 drone scout either.

He did it in the last MSL finals, Effort did it in the OSL...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1714
On May 29 2010 18:23 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2010 18:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:19 Nikon wrote:
On May 29 2010 18:14 Hot_Bid wrote:
Well Jaedong, I guess it's time to see if you're as mentally strong as Effort was.

If not, get ready for 100 pages of whining about "bad games."

I wonder if people will be criticizing Flash's MSL title because "Jaedong played horribly and gave Flash the win."


Well, the games so far are hardly better than the OSL finals tbh, we want our epic lategame shenanigans, not this ee han timing stuff...

You realize that the way Flash plays, its hardly likely we'll get a long, even, back and forth game. Either Flash survives early game and rolls, or the JD does enough early damage and Flash dies early.

Other than the power outage game do you remember any games where its been long and good between Flash and another Z? Maybe one or two vs Hogil, but those were still rapes.


I still have in my memory the amazing game between Flash and Jaedong on Rush Hours 3... Ah, that was a good game

crazy crazy game. Sadly I doubt JD would have the confidence to pull out something like that now. Also, the maps are not that suitable.
BW fighting!
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1715
Nice Flash doing weird stuff with his cheeks. Lol.
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1716
I should've betted all of my savings against Rekrul...
Anyway it's not over yet... Play carefully Flash.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
May 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#1717
Expecting BBS in game 3.
fIamewheel
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
177 Posts
May 29 2010 09:25 GMT
#1718
WHAT THE HELL WHY DOES THIS ONLY HAVE 86 PAGES T_T
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
May 29 2010 09:25 GMT
#1719
Please Jaedong... don't get 3-0'd
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 29 2010 09:25 GMT
#1720
Damn let's see what super JD will bring us :D
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