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trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
May 22 2010 14:57 GMT
#5781
Was pretty disappointing games overall sadly :/ I can't think of one game which wasn't fairly one sided or had extremely poor play by loser. Hopefully Flash Vs JD will be way better
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
May 22 2010 14:58 GMT
#5782
290 pages. you are sick.
i'm very happy that effort won. zerg all the way!
first we make expand, then we defense it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 22 2010 14:59 GMT
#5783
There's an old flowchart that someone did for Flash, where for every non TvT matchup, it asked "Did I reach late game?" and if the answer was yes, Flash wins.

Despite his attempts to confront his flaws, the flowchart is still surprisingly apt.
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
May 22 2010 14:59 GMT
#5784
On May 22 2010 23:59 TheYango wrote:
There's an old flowchart that someone did for Flash, where for every non TvT matchup, it asked "Did I reach late game?" and if the answer was yes, Flash wins.

Despite his attempts to confront his flaws, the flowchart is still surprisingly apt.


Except in the PL
bisu fanboy
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
May 22 2010 15:06 GMT
#5785
On May 22 2010 22:57 Hot_Bid wrote:
Seriously, it's like a Hollywood script.

Theres this group of down and out players, and a coach that won't give up on them. They are really poor and can't even afford food. Coach finds one guy who manages to really good, wins a whole bunch of leagues, gets sponsored by huge company CJ, and they grow this really nice group of young players.

But despite all that they've been through, that guy betrays the whole team and cheats. This crushes the entire team (and their best player, that guy's heir, slumps hard) only to have the kid rise from the slump and face near-impossible odds in the finals of the biggest tournament against the best player, be down 0-2, then come back to win??

You can't make this up.


Rofl @ the hyperbole...
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 22 2010 15:09 GMT
#5786
It's absurd to think that Flash would still have only 2 titles if he doesn't beat JD next week. He deserves so much more.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 15:17:26
May 22 2010 15:14 GMT
#5787
I was extremely impressed with Effort's play in set 4.

1) Good game sense in sending the OL to the right place and not letting flash see his OL. Don't know why he cancelled the second rax though.

2) Keeps scouting drone alive until lings gets there. Sacrifices 6 lings for 2 marines. During this exchange, the scouting drone waltzes out of the base to get back home after seeing the gas+factory.

3) Sneaks in ONE ling, sees the starport and correctly guesses the dropship is coming. (probably is just me sucking though, cuz I thought it was going to be wraiths lol)

4) Blocks vulture drop pretty well. I think someone said he lost 4 drones.

5) Tries to break up the ramp, sees the bio switch and immediately goes back to his main sensing the 2 dropships coming. I don't think he had seen an extra dropship. Puts the OL in good position to see where the drop is coming from. Had Effort failed to block this drop well, it could have won Flash the game and the golden mouse.

6) Awesome trap/block using the zerglings, leading to all of Flash's marines being skewered in one or two volleys.

7) and enough macro so that he could decimate Flash's forces during and after that encounter.

I was most impressed by that scouting drone though, as I had wondered why Effort pushed up the ramp and sacrificed his lings for a couple rines, but during the replay I saw the drone just was nonchalantly walking out.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
May 22 2010 15:14 GMT
#5788
On May 23 2010 00:09 Holgerius wrote:
It's absurd to think that Flash would still have only 2 titles if he doesn't beat JD next week. He deserves so much more.


Yeah he's seriously underachieving. Blame those two years.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
May 22 2010 15:16 GMT
#5789
effortt trying to bring honor back to cj!!!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 22 2010 15:18 GMT
#5790
HOLY CRAP EFFORT!!!! EFFORT
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
May 22 2010 15:22 GMT
#5791
On May 22 2010 23:35 tyCe wrote:
Flash brought a game plan that absolutely backfired on him. Some poor play by Flash, but mostly due to being caught off-guard by Effort, who was clearly prepared for the style Flash chose to play.

Reminds me of Barcelona v Inter Milan in the first leg, where a shocking ref decision and an epic failure of defence by Alves lost them the game and the series.


Yeah Flash had a good series planned out , but i think it would be wiser next time when a player is up 2 just to play a safe standart game with no unnecessary risk . Mind games are good and all , but every once in a while it backfires like this .
shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 15:23:51
May 22 2010 15:22 GMT
#5792
On May 23 2010 00:14 rainei wrote:
3) Sneaks in ONE ling, sees the starport and correctly guesses the dropship is coming. (probably is just me sucking though, cuz I thought it was going to be wraiths lol)



Starport + Control Tower + No upgrades on the control tower -> valks if mech, dropships if bio

I didn't notice about the drone escaping, nice catch.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 22 2010 15:23 GMT
#5793
wow not exactly the type of results i was expecting when waking up :/
Forever Young
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 15:25:25
May 22 2010 15:24 GMT
#5794
As much as HotBid likes effort and tries to make him the good guy and make us all happy, I'm not buying the propaganda.

Flash is the ultimate player that only needs a few more titles so that even the stubborn people don't have any arguments left for not bowing to the God of starcraft. Then he gets gayed (not only by effort, but by himself too).
Kids, don't listen to HotBid, he's evil.
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
May 22 2010 15:26 GMT
#5795
On May 23 2010 00:22 shalafi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 00:14 rainei wrote:
3) Sneaks in ONE ling, sees the starport and correctly guesses the dropship is coming. (probably is just me sucking though, cuz I thought it was going to be wraiths lol)



Starport + Control Tower + No upgrades on the control tower -> valks if mech, dropships if bio

I didn't notice about the drone escaping, nice catch.


Ah, so now I know. But if I recall correctly, his scouting ling was only able to see an in progress starport, so no information on the control tower, although he had information on the bio tech and singular starport.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 22 2010 15:26 GMT
#5796
On May 21 2010 05:35 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 05:14 Kenpachi wrote:
I like upsets. do you like upsets?


I like upset CJ fans even more

ORLY? YOUR NOT SEEING ANY
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
C[SCL]
Profile Joined April 2009
Philippines576 Posts
May 22 2010 15:27 GMT
#5797
In all honesty, I think losing this final can be a very good thing for Flash because I think that he will feel like he's accomplished everything any progamer ever thought of.

Losing this means, no golden mouse = extra motivation to do even better and mature more. His series against Jaedong will show how his confidence level is right now. Anyway, Flash fighting!
BISU FAN FOREVER|Really fan.. really.|Flash, please get all the golds. k thx
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 22 2010 15:28 GMT
#5798
On May 23 2010 00:27 C[SCL] wrote:
In all honesty, I think losing this final can be a very good thing for Flash because I think that he will feel like he's accomplished everything any progamer ever thought of.

Losing this means, no golden mouse = extra motivation to do even better and mature more. His series against Jaedong will show how his confidence level is right now. Anyway, Flash fighting!


Well, problem is there is not much time left in BroodWar to shine.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
May 22 2010 15:32 GMT
#5799
flash 50% winrate in last 10 games. i call slump!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 22 2010 15:33 GMT
#5800
On May 23 2010 00:26 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 05:35 Ideas wrote:
On May 21 2010 05:14 Kenpachi wrote:
I like upsets. do you like upsets?


I like upset CJ fans even more

ORLY? YOUR NOT SEEING ANY


ha that was a pretty good pun though :p
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