EPTReread my fix, I think this was his point.
flash 1% more win rate but effort winning in much more important games
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
Reread my fix, I think this was his point. flash 1% more win rate but effort winning in much more important games | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
Is it that hard to believe that someone with the similar win percentage, better head-to-head, and equal or stronger opponent strength can be the superior player over a 1.5 month span? | ||
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:35 Amnesia wrote: Why so much Flash hate? -_-; what the fuck? What Flash hate? Its more like Flash fanboy hate, and Effort love! | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
Yes. "But of course, a win in PL and 3-2 OSL Finals." Statistically even, but Effort > Flash in head to head. | ||
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unionbank
Australia666 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:36 7mk wrote: Reread my fix, I think this was his point. flash 1% more win rate but effort winning in much more important games I am not getting the exact time period. cuz from April 1 to pre-OSL final (May 21) Flash Record: 29 wins - 6 losses (82.86%) Effort Record: 16 wins - 6 losses (72.73%) also 5 wins out of 8 games are from Tiebreaker. can that even count as important games? but only counting the month of May Effort is 9-2 while Flash is 15-6 | ||
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
On May 22 2010 22:12 kNyTTyM wrote: dude shut up. If you played Terran you'd know how I feel. Flash is everything all Terran players hope to be. He's seriously the most perfect player I've ever seen but he still loses to stupid crap. it just makes me angry to see him lose like this What a whiner. Flash proxy-raxed in Game 4 and he 14CCed in Game 5 and Effort punished him for it. InTheFade called it. | ||
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:40 unionbank wrote: statistically (if im not mistaken) Flash is still ahead in head to heads..6-5 We weren't looking at an all time head to head. The disputed time period was the last 1.5 months or whatever. And not getting eliminated from the OSL is pretty important. In response to the tiebreaker point. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:35 Amnesia wrote: Why so much Flash hate? -_-; what the fuck? I don't think anyone is hating on Flash for anything undeserved. His decision making in the last three games were really quite bad. Here's my summary of the series. Game 1 Flash mechs, Effort can't hydra break, makes Queens but Flash scouts them with a vulture and pushes immediately upon seeing the Queens, forces Effort to engage before Broodling is ready. Effort attacks up a ramp into 2-1 mech (two upgrades finished jussst before Effort's attack). Great read and macro by Flash. Game 2 Effort 3H before pool, Flash scouts it and 1-rax CCs. Flash wastes two mm groups vs two sunkens up a ramp (bad micro). Effort was ahead briefly before Flash won with nice scans on hold lurkers and sick dropship management (scanning for scourge, buying time). Game 3 Effort 2H muta, Flash standard bio. Regardless of whether the initial ling loss was intentional, had Flash just waited another 2 seconds for his medics, the game would've been completely different. Nice hidden ling attack by Effort and subsequent muta micro. Game 4 Flash tries to BBS cheese, fails (sense of star overlord). Lets Effort scout his vulture drop. Effort does a great job of predicting what Flash would do, just the right number of units at the right places at the right times. Great overlord positioning and scouting. Game 5 Flash plays inordinately risky by 14ccing in the deciding game, Effort goes 2H muta but switches to lings when seeing the 14cc. Flash's SCV block is not airtight. He loses. | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:42 anch wrote: I am not getting the exact time period. also 5 wins out of 8 games are from Tiebreaker. can that even count as important games? Well without those wins EffOrt would not have been able to win OSL, so yeah they were pretty important | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:42 anch wrote: I am not getting the exact time period. also 5 wins out of 8 games are from Tiebreaker. can that even count as important games? did you not read the bold parts? The OSL finals and the effort vs flash game in SPL were the most important ones | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:42 anch wrote: I am not getting the exact time period. also 5 wins out of 8 games are from Tiebreaker. can that even count as important games? Removing the tiebreaker makes Effort's record even more impressive, 14-2 over the past 30 days (the two losses are to Flash, obviously). | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 22 2010 23:14 EvanED wrote: Maybe he was so distracted by his epiphany, that explains why he did stuff like run his muta across a bunch of marines. :-) Heh. I guess Flash isn't the only player who's been "enlightened".  It's possible that he realized Flash's early game weakness before the series, but got riled up in game 1 due to the regame, and game 2 got careless with his strong early lead. As I said, I'm rather glad that Flash's early-game weakness got exposed in this series. If this had been the MSL, it would not have taken Jaedong 2 losses to start abusing Flash's weaknesses. | ||
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acrense
Brazil3 Posts
i left home it was 2-0 flash OMG | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
no my Liquibet! i do hope flash eventually gets a golden mouse though, definitely deserves one. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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lOstHeaven
Canada212 Posts
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Part of me loves EffOrt... Part of me wanted Flash to get the golden mouse... one more season without a golden mouse ;( Sigh | ||
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