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On May 22 2010 23:01 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 22:57 Holgerius wrote:On May 22 2010 22:55 Black Gun wrote:On May 22 2010 22:54 Holgerius wrote:
Flash is quite obviously still the better player of the two, but you're just a sore loser if you say that Effort doesn't ''deserve'' the title. as i stated in my last post, effort as a player deserves a starleague title. its just that his play in this particular osl does NOT deserve a title. Effort won 3 games, Flash won 2 = deserved win. a starleague consists of more than its final. effort got outplayed the hard way in the first 2 games and then was handed the win by flashs stupid build orders in games 4 and 5. everybody, tell me if this: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/581_EffOrt/games/during/414_2010_Korean_Air_OSLis a worthy run to a starleague title.
Uh....
Yes?
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/424_Flash/games/during/414_2010_Korean_Air_OSL
The winrate is pretty similar they both 2-0 and 3-0 their opponents to the finals. Yeah, effort had a ton of rematches, but that was 1 day.
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On May 22 2010 23:06 Grend wrote:
This just sucks.
Without Flash dominating, theres nothing interesting in this game. Everything has been done before, expect for the awesomness a double league win would have been.
I think the exact opposite. Nothing is more boring than one side domination.
There needs to be competition to make things interesting. I had enough of Flash sitting on the high chair, one level above the rest.
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On May 22 2010 23:06 Grend wrote:
This just sucks.
Without Flash dominating, theres nothing interesting in this game. Everything has been done before, expect for the awesomness a double league win would have been.
Actually, that has been done before by NaDa.
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On May 22 2010 22:59 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 22:55 LunarC wrote:
He saw Effort go for a 12 hatch, so he thought he could get away with the 14cc. But he didn't interpret the early gas as a speedling bust. Hold-position SCV at the choke or a bunker in the main could have held it off, but Flash made some poor decisions, leaving a lot of holes that Effort could exploit. TvZ is a really delicate MU. ?? Flash was blind when he went double CC. He didn't "see" effort do anything and by time scv scout got to Effort's main, pool and gas already finished so not like he would know that Effort went for gas before pool.
Guess I wasn't watching closely enough. Still, if he didn't see Effort take his natural, I don't think Flash would have committed the 14cc like he did. Or he would have taken greater pains to cover all of the cracks in his build.
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On May 22 2010 23:07 pat777 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 23:06 Grend wrote:
This just sucks.
Without Flash dominating, theres nothing interesting in this game. Everything has been done before, expect for the awesomness a double league win would have been. Actually, that has been done before by NaDa.
yeah, nada actually won 3 leagues at the same time
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On May 22 2010 23:04 matjlav wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 22:57 7mk wrote:On May 22 2010 22:53 matjlav wrote:On May 22 2010 22:45 Jibba wrote:On May 22 2010 22:42 matjlav wrote:On May 22 2010 22:38 Scaramanga wrote:On May 22 2010 22:35 InTheFade wrote:On May 22 2010 22:28 Waxangel wrote:Elsewhere in Seoul.... ![[image loading]](http://img.dailygame.co.kr/news/200911/attachments/20091115_bc70b2862888a56da2c6b194f72b4332.jpg) Best post thus far. On May 22 2010 22:31 Scaramanga wrote:
Flash was much more deserving of the title than effort, first two games flash raped effort repeatedly for 20 minuets each, 3rd game flash made one mistake of not scouting before moving out which cost him the game and the 5th game he didnt walloff properly and it cost him the game
two mistakes and hes gayed out of a spot in history as one of the games best
two mistakes
fucking bullshit Worst post thus far. Especially when you consider how Effort also made horrible mistakes in games 1 and 2. Thats what im saying, did you actually read my post? Effort made many mistakes in game one and two compared to flash's two, how people can say effort is more deserving of a title is beyond me I doubt many people think that Effort is actually the better player, but the fact is that it's Flash's own fault that he lost. The way you said that he got "gayed out" of it and that it's "fucking bullshit" suggested that you were just blaming Effort's "gay" play. Boston's overall record is 62-33, Cleveland's is 67-26. I guess the Cavaliers are the better team! I don't follow sports, so I don't understand exactly the nuances of what you're saying, but... Flash is blatantly more skilled than EffOrt. He showed that in games 1 and 2. Now, as I said before, it's certainly Flash's fault that he lost games 3, 4, and 5; however, those were not straight up games. Game 2 especially showed that when it comes to straight up macro play, Flash is a complete monster. Effort showed that Flash's early game is weak, but that is more of a mental issue that Flash can fix quickly. The fact remains that Flash has been utterly dominating for a year, and 3 very short games are not anywhere near enough to prove that Effort is the superior player. Of course, I hate arguing over who is a "better" player because the idea of "superiority" in such a variable game is such a vague human construct, but in this case I think it's still pretty blatant. ??? Who in this thread said that effort is overall the superior player? Let me introduce you to a concept called quote tags. Quote tags are a way of referencing a previous post in a thread, while making it clear that it was another person's words, not yours. That way, people can understand what you're saying in the context of the rest of the thread! Neat! Next time you see quote tags, read what's inside them! Then, you won't have to ask unnecessary questions about why the poster said what they said.
how about you stop being a fucking asshole for a moment?
Which of the people you quoted says that effort is the better overall player?
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Flash is still young, he'll get his Golden Mouse next season instead. After destroying JD this MSL 
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OK. Just waiting for the winner interview now.
It's been an hour already. I hope I can stop hitting F5 sometime soon. 
Effort better treat his entire team (including Idra) to one HUGE dinner.
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Savior doesn't give a shit about Effort or CJ, obviously. Also, who says Savior is even "at home?" It's jail-time, baby!
On May 22 2010 23:01 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 22:57 Holgerius wrote:On May 22 2010 22:55 Black Gun wrote:On May 22 2010 22:54 Holgerius wrote:
Flash is quite obviously still the better player of the two, but you're just a sore loser if you say that Effort doesn't ''deserve'' the title. as i stated in my last post, effort as a player deserves a starleague title. its just that his play in this particular osl does NOT deserve a title. Effort won 3 games, Flash won 2 = deserved win. a starleague consists of more than its final. effort got outplayed the hard way in the first 2 games and then was handed the win by flashs stupid build orders in games 4 and 5. everybody, tell me if this: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/581_EffOrt/games/during/414_2010_Korean_Air_OSLis a worthy run to a starleague title.
So Flash deserves the title regardless of the fact that he... lost in the finals... Gotcha.
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Hahahahahaha. This is awesome to wake up to. I'm so happy, you have no idea. Good for Effort. Good for CJ.
To those saying that Flash is more "deserving" of the title, whatever that means:
Too bad, he couldn't deliver.
To those saying Effort had an easy road to finals:
Right, because Flash sure faced tons of S class talent on his way up.
To those saying that Effort made more mistakes:
Well clearly he STILL didn't make enough for Flash to, you know, win.
Fuck yeah Effort.
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On May 22 2010 23:06 TheYango wrote:
I have this image in my head now, with Effort in the middle of game 2, whiile he's getting pounded by Flash, he has a revelation:
"I know how to stop Flash!"
Maybe he was so distracted by his epiphany, that explains why he did stuff like run his muta across a bunch of marines. :-)
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Dam as a flash fan I couldn't be more disappointed. fucking shit. I was reading the lr at 8pm and flash was up 2-0, went for duty, came back at 10 imagining flash with his golden mouse and this shit happens? WTF !!!!
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On May 22 2010 23:01 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 22:57 Holgerius wrote:On May 22 2010 22:55 Black Gun wrote:On May 22 2010 22:54 Holgerius wrote:
Flash is quite obviously still the better player of the two, but you're just a sore loser if you say that Effort doesn't ''deserve'' the title. as i stated in my last post, effort as a player deserves a starleague title. its just that his play in this particular osl does NOT deserve a title. Effort won 3 games, Flash won 2 = deserved win. a starleague consists of more than its final. effort got outplayed the hard way in the first 2 games and then was handed the win by flashs stupid build orders in games 4 and 5. everybody, tell me if this: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/581_EffOrt/games/during/414_2010_Korean_Air_OSLis a worthy run to a starleague title.
No, the final is what counts. You people amaze me. None of you treat football or any other sport this way. Fuck, if Bayern wins, Barcelona is still #1.
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On May 22 2010 23:07 dukethegold wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2010 23:06 Grend wrote:
This just sucks.
Without Flash dominating, theres nothing interesting in this game. Everything has been done before, expect for the awesomness a double league win would have been. I think the exact opposite. Nothing is more boring than one side domination. There needs to be competition to make things interesting. I had enough of Flash sitting on the high chair, one level above the rest.
No, now we're just back to zergs taking all the golds again (with their stupid imba zerglings and mutalisks).
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3 consec loss! slump!
+ Show Spoiler +jk, now flash better buck up and give me a decent MSL FINAL
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GG, well played Effort.
David vs Goliath.
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Wow, good job by effort!
I really wasn't expecting him to win :O looks like he stepped up his game.
Too bad for Flash though, that golden mouse sure has been elusive...
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