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On May 06 2010 21:02 fallingdream wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 21:00 Ryo wrote:On May 06 2010 20:58 jaesung wrote: according to caster... samsung coach actually told ref. there was something wrong with the map, drone not being able to pass the invisible egg in mid of game yet ref. did not take any action.
after the game.. issue brought up, ref is asking why he didnt "ppp"?
i guess u guys saw a screen where samsung coach was furiously talking to ref about it..
caster shows little mercy to great for not being able to PPP due to shock and confusion he may had in during game.
It's up to the player to ppp. Ref can't interfere based on what the coach says. Not true. Reffs have paused games in the past without players asking for it. For example stork v ggplay on andromeda where the ref paused the game to ask the players if it would go to a tie or if stork can finish it.
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lol KESPA > blizzard... so what chance does great stand here?
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On May 06 2010 21:03 d_so wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 21:02 MuffinDude wrote:On May 06 2010 21:00 Ryo wrote:On May 06 2010 20:58 jaesung wrote: according to caster... samsung coach actually told ref. there was something wrong with the map, drone not being able to pass the invisible egg in mid of game yet ref. did not take any action.
after the game.. issue brought up, ref is asking why he didnt "ppp"?
i guess u guys saw a screen where samsung coach was furiously talking to ref about it..
caster shows little mercy to great for not being able to PPP due to shock and confusion he may had in during game.
It's up to the player to ppp. Ref can't interfere based on what the coach says. Who says they can't? Who the fuck do you think you are? Kespa can take a win from flash, why can't they pause a game? i lol'd @ "who the fuck do you think you are" haha
As did I.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
umm just got back frmo dinner wtf happened? o _O
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and this is why MSL doesn't have a sponsor at the moment.. MSL FAIL!
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Ok Times up. Fistfight or next game plz.
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On May 06 2010 21:03 radadaundandan wrote: lol KESPA > blizzard... so what chance does great stand here? January is just angry that she points out the mistake and kespa ref decides to ignore it cause shes a women.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Calm would be pretty baller to demand a regame
But hey, he's not and he wont
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On May 06 2010 21:04 spoolinoveryou wrote: and this is why MSL doesn't have a sponsor at the moment.. MSL FAIL! Hana Daetoo
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On May 06 2010 21:04 spoolinoveryou wrote: and this is why MSL doesn't have a sponsor at the moment.. MSL FAIL! Huh? They're sponsored by Hana Daetoo Securities.
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everyone is laughing atm its kinda wierd in this situation
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On May 06 2010 21:04 alffla wrote: umm just got back frmo dinner wtf happened? o _O
Great went 12pool into back expo, he tried to expo in the back but it didnt work, so he expod in his main, he played the game and lost.
It then turned out that the map was fucked up and you couldnt expo to the back. January is now complaining for the sake of a re.
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On May 06 2010 21:00 Fenrax wrote:It was ridiculous. Flash and MvP finished their complete series without drama!!!! After that the normal MSL upfuck, no one knows whats going on, referees are rolling dice atm.
what? that didnt tell me what's going on at all. I saw flash vs mvp, what happened in this game?
edit: OK I read it now
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On May 06 2010 21:04 roronoe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 21:03 d_so wrote:On May 06 2010 21:02 MuffinDude wrote:On May 06 2010 21:00 Ryo wrote:On May 06 2010 20:58 jaesung wrote: according to caster... samsung coach actually told ref. there was something wrong with the map, drone not being able to pass the invisible egg in mid of game yet ref. did not take any action.
after the game.. issue brought up, ref is asking why he didnt "ppp"?
i guess u guys saw a screen where samsung coach was furiously talking to ref about it..
caster shows little mercy to great for not being able to PPP due to shock and confusion he may had in during game.
It's up to the player to ppp. Ref can't interfere based on what the coach says. Who says they can't? Who the fuck do you think you are? Kespa can take a win from flash, why can't they pause a game? i lol'd @ "who the fuck do you think you are" haha As did I. Still he is right ^_^
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Come on. Be sportsmen. Just play a rematch and let the best one win.
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On May 06 2010 21:04 alffla wrote: umm just got back frmo dinner wtf happened? o _O A little glitch. Great tried to expo to his backdoor expo, but he couldn't glitch his drone through the invisible egg because he couldn't see the extractor. January told this to kespa during the middle of the game and kespa decides to ignore it. After the game, january just went nuts on the kespa ref for ignoring her. yea.
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On May 06 2010 21:03 MuffinDude wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 21:02 fallingdream wrote:On May 06 2010 21:00 Ryo wrote:On May 06 2010 20:58 jaesung wrote: according to caster... samsung coach actually told ref. there was something wrong with the map, drone not being able to pass the invisible egg in mid of game yet ref. did not take any action.
after the game.. issue brought up, ref is asking why he didnt "ppp"?
i guess u guys saw a screen where samsung coach was furiously talking to ref about it..
caster shows little mercy to great for not being able to PPP due to shock and confusion he may had in during game.
It's up to the player to ppp. Ref can't interfere based on what the coach says. Not true. Reffs have paused games in the past without players asking for it. For example stork v ggplay on andromeda where the ref paused the game to ask the players if it would go to a tie or if stork can finish it.
Yes, and also, there was a TvT game ( on a 2 player map I believe, I could be wrong ) a while back when a player used a bug to get a scv into the other guys based and reffs paused and I think they even dq that player.
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Sorry, didin't pay any attention, But whats going on now?
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United States11390 Posts
On May 06 2010 20:41 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:40 Harem wrote:On May 06 2010 20:32 Crunchums wrote:On May 06 2010 20:28 Harem wrote:On May 06 2010 20:19 Crunchums wrote:On May 06 2010 20:17 samachking wrote:On May 06 2010 20:15 SuperArc wrote:On May 06 2010 20:12 Holgerius wrote:On May 06 2010 19:55 SuperArc wrote:On May 06 2010 19:47 Holgerius wrote:[quote] Yep, you are so right Holgerius. Flash completely raped MVP in the mind games today.  I don't want to argue today, but MVP didnt go what I meant. I mean 8rax, gas getting a way faster factory. Upmagic has done this build a few times. Whatever you were thinking of, I feel very confident that Flash would've defended it. Because Flash is so good against upmagic? :p On May 06 2010 20:15 Holgerius wrote: Great is the new JD, overcoming sick BO disadvantages. :D Actually Effort started doing that a year ago. When did he do that? Show me games of effort defending 9pool speed vs 12hat without his opponent completely fucking up. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/22271_EffOrt_vs_great/vodvs great, ironically edit: great's decisionmaking was poor but the level of his fuckupitude was much less than calm's was last game. He asked for 9speed, not 9pool lair. This game was so lol too. so what you are saying is 9lair is a terrible build? why i quite agree On May 06 2010 20:35 Crunchums wrote: what i'm trying to say is i'm wrong about everything and do not listen to me ever : 3 OK. Not listening then. 9lair is terrible, the only thing its good against is 12hat, and even then a 9pool speed gives you a better advantage, you'd be better off going overgas/pool instead if you want fast mutas. Wtf, stop spewing nonsense.
The build is fine. It just requires a higher level of management most of the time.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/34917_Hydra_vs_Killer vs 12pool expand/spore http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/27025_Calm_vs_Jaedong mass ling that hits while opponent spores and has no sunk at nat while 12pooling http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/28869_Jaedong_vs_Kwanro more vs 12p
Vs overgas builds, you can nullify their gas advantage by parking scourge above morphing mutas.
Plus, on 4p maps, you can abuse the lack of scouting and just make 2 lings to scout where they are and then drone whore while making sunk in main. (what effort did to jd on jday is example of this but that was overpool but still same idea applies)
Obviously, there's a lot more ways to play out the build in any number situations and it has its own disadvantages but saying it is terrible and only good against 12hat etc.? Come on.
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On May 06 2010 21:05 Plexa wrote: Calm would be pretty baller to demand a regame
But hey, he's not and he wont
Why should he? ppp if there's a problem. you stick it out for 15 mins, try your luck and lose and then complain, and you have less sway with the refs. worked for effort (even though shine totally had that game, effort's mouse was meaningless at that point).
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