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oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
May 06 2010 21:12 GMT
#1081
yeah, TL is weird against some players.
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 06 2010 21:17 GMT
#1082
On May 07 2010 06:06 kyophan wrote:
Why does so many people hate calm again? Even before this series, I see a lot of people taking bad about him.


He isn't the most mechanically enthralling player and he had quite possibly the most mind numbing title run in his MSL with nothing but ZvZs.
Remember Violet.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 03:20:14
May 06 2010 21:32 GMT
#1083
I just watched game 4 again, amazing defense from Flash.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7827 Posts
May 06 2010 22:32 GMT
#1084
Would rather see Calm v Midas than Calm v Jaedong...

But would much rather see JD Flash than Clam v Flash
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
May 06 2010 22:44 GMT
#1085
On May 07 2010 06:17 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 06:06 kyophan wrote:
Why does so many people hate calm again? Even before this series, I see a lot of people taking bad about him.


He isn't the most mechanically enthralling player and he had quite possibly the most mind numbing title run in his MSL with nothing but ZvZs.


His MSL run was anything but unimpressive.

At the time, ZvZ was Calm's worst Match-up. He went in beating Effort and Jaedong, two of the hottest players at the moment in a Bo5 that no one predicted. During his entire run he never faced an elimination risk.

His ZvZs were exciting and innovative and proved brains > mechanics (thus his nickname)
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
May 06 2010 22:50 GMT
#1086
Glad to see Flash didn't let his couple of losses recently phase him
always tired -_-
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-07 00:42:11
May 07 2010 00:41 GMT
#1087
well I watched game 4 of Great vs Calm. I cant see a place for argument. Calm sent his overlord slightly to the left of the optimal course, so he can get vision of the geyser while Great could have easily spotted it with his second ovie considering he already had his first one scouting in the right direction (he saw Calm's overlord). So basically if he ever played in that spot, and knew it was hard to get his drone trough, he would have lost close to nothing if he would have sent his second overlord there first (its not a big distance either). IMHO.
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
SturmAddict
Profile Joined October 2009
Malaysia176 Posts
May 07 2010 01:03 GMT
#1088
great didnt complain.

it was his coach which complained.

Obviously they were cutting corners. so their coach was from the pompom club and doesnt know that much about starcraft.

Either way... onesided games in flash vs mvp, mistake-ridden games in great vs clam.

*sigh*
Delerium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States324 Posts
May 07 2010 01:45 GMT
#1089
On May 07 2010 10:03 SturmAddict wrote:
great didnt complain.

it was his coach which complained.

Obviously they were cutting corners. so their coach was from the pompom club and doesnt know that much about starcraft.

Either way... onesided games in flash vs mvp, mistake-ridden games in great vs clam.

*sigh*

No, that's [Oops]January, and she is a pro-gamer turned pro-gaming coach. She was in the same clan as Reach and ClouD.
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
May 07 2010 02:21 GMT
#1090
Game 4 Great vs Calm shows just how incompetent KeSPA really is.
This issue should've been no brainer.
-Coach January appealed to KeSPA ref, requesting to know whether they're using the correct version of the map. KeSPA checked and was correct.
-This issue was already known to all the progamers. (If Great attended BO5 not thoroughly practiced in that map, he deserved to lose. Period.)
-Great did not appeal, did not request to pause the game. He just played through. Only AFTER he loses after going all-in attacks twice. (Jaedong didn't complain when his lurker got trapped and there's no way he could've known that could happen, even by practicing that map over and over)

Took like 40 minutes to decide, how incompetent can you get?
I mean... STUPID STUPIDDD STUPIDDDDDDDDDDD ref.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 07 2010 02:37 GMT
#1091
On May 07 2010 11:21 EntertainMe wrote:
Game 4 Great vs Calm shows just how incompetent KeSPA really is.
This issue should've been no brainer.
-Coach January appealed to KeSPA ref, requesting to know whether they're using the correct version of the map. KeSPA checked and was correct.
-This issue was already known to all the progamers. (If Great attended BO5 not thoroughly practiced in that map, he deserved to lose. Period.)
-Great did not appeal, did not request to pause the game. He just played through. Only AFTER he loses after going all-in attacks twice. (Jaedong didn't complain when his lurker got trapped and there's no way he could've known that could happen, even by practicing that map over and over)

Took like 40 minutes to decide, how incompetent can you get?
I mean... STUPID STUPIDDD STUPIDDDDDDDDDDD ref.


Kespa handled it rather well imo. Did you see january's reaction? she was raging hardcore at the ref for a long while (while that other guy was trying to cheer great up by rubbing his legs o_0).

During the break, the refs checked the replay several times and then replicated the situation (what great did vs how it should have been done) and concluded that it was indeed great's mistake in micro.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 07 2010 03:12 GMT
#1092
On May 07 2010 07:44 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2010 06:17 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On May 07 2010 06:06 kyophan wrote:
Why does so many people hate calm again? Even before this series, I see a lot of people taking bad about him.


He isn't the most mechanically enthralling player and he had quite possibly the most mind numbing title run in his MSL with nothing but ZvZs.


His MSL run was anything but unimpressive.

At the time, ZvZ was Calm's worst Match-up. He went in beating Effort and Jaedong, two of the hottest players at the moment in a Bo5 that no one predicted. During his entire run he never faced an elimination risk.

His ZvZs were exciting and innovative and proved brains > mechanics (thus his nickname)


I didn't say that it wasn't impressive. I said it was uninteresting because of the abundance of ZvZ. Something can be impressive without being captivating.
Remember Violet.
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 07 2010 03:24 GMT
#1093
Poor MVP. Additionally, haw haw Great fail drill.
... Knowmsayin'?
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
May 07 2010 04:57 GMT
#1094
Great should've gone through.

Sounds like it was his mistake, but holy shit games 2 and 3 were so entertaining, much rather see that kind of ZvZ against Jaedong.

(Then again, Calm brought it vs Jaedong last time, so... ESPORTS)
The original Bogus fan.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 07 2010 05:24 GMT
#1095
I've just watched Flash games and holy shit. His defence in game 4 was unreal. Such a great adaptation...

HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
May 07 2010 06:01 GMT
#1096
clam did beat the JD when it was a JvZ in a semi finals so you would expect him to be good at zvz.. i dunno i dont think people hate him now.. i personally dont..
in The Kong line forever
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
May 07 2010 07:28 GMT
#1097
On May 07 2010 04:04 Gtks wrote:
You can't call it a rape is more like Flash need it to finish fast he has an importand mutch tomorrow a good night sleep is always helpfull some hormons can only prodused at nignt.

The DRAMA was fantasys game he was so determent to do the ctener push that he didn't build any kind on defence nowhere only produce and send i mean i've seen flash sending only 4 goliasths to destroy one exapantion command center couldn't split a siege hehehe.

Jaedonng? i don't know midas can take him out i think if it playes really carefull. Anyway i've done from this threat.

greeks... can't even speak english.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Mnijykmirl
Profile Joined February 2010
United States299 Posts
May 08 2010 02:12 GMT
#1098
On May 07 2010 06:06 kyophan wrote:
Why does so many people hate calm again? Even before this series, I see a lot of people taking bad about him.


I love the brain zerg. His mechanics aren't the most top notch but he is always amazingly good on the thought side of things that it makes me a huge fan. There's a reason why Calm vs. Fantasy is always so hilarious. Even when he's swarmed in ZvZ I still like his play. He's also sexy.

I am extremely glad he advanced here. In my opinion he's completely justified semi-final and final material.
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