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FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 11:55:22
May 06 2010 11:55 GMT
#841
On May 06 2010 20:52 d_so wrote:
man how awesome is it that you have a coach out there fighting for you and raising a fucking ruckus while you chill in the back.

seems like great is not going back in the booth... posturing? or are we going to finally see MSL pay for their incompetence and have a player refuse to participate

edit:

Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:52 KristianJS wrote:
But if he PPed and said "lol I can't manage to expo" then Calm would have know exactly what was going on....


that's a good point


And the coach is hot too.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
May 06 2010 11:55 GMT
#842
This is a pretty big screw up. Hosting the game with the wrong map, or distributing the wrong map to the players, either is pretty bad.
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
May 06 2010 11:55 GMT
#843
On May 06 2010 20:55 roronoe wrote:
This is a pretty big screw up. Hosting the game with the wrong map, or distributing the wrong map to the players, either is pretty bad.

Like the boxer dropship incident?
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
May 06 2010 11:55 GMT
#844
rage January rage!

<3 esports drama
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 06 2010 11:56 GMT
#845
On May 06 2010 20:55 roronoe wrote:
This is a pretty big screw up. Hosting the game with the wrong map, or distributing the wrong map to the players, either is pretty bad.


Assumptions.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
May 06 2010 11:56 GMT
#846
miraculously sucky league
brood war for life, brood war forever
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 06 2010 11:56 GMT
#847
On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?


He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.

He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
May 06 2010 11:56 GMT
#848
MSL - when in doubt Commercial yourself out.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
May 06 2010 11:57 GMT
#849
It looked like great did everything he possibly can to try and see the geyser. It looks like he got close enought to the invisi eggs and moved around. Map imba.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 06 2010 11:57 GMT
#850
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?


He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.

He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.

To be fair, this is the furthest great has ever got in any league and I'm sure he's nervous as all hell.... I doubt he would want to rock the boat - hence why January raised the alarm.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
May 06 2010 11:58 GMT
#851
more last samurai music! YES!
manner
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 11:58:33
May 06 2010 11:58 GMT
#852
On May 06 2010 20:52 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              06 2010 20      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:50 nozaro33 wrote:
On May 06 2010 20:48 Malinor wrote:
Whether or not it's is fault or a map problem, he should have PPP'ed right away, you cannot play the game out and complain about this afterwards.


um... but he couldn't see the gas... at least the replay proves it


That is why he should have asked for a pause.


um... first off, you can't ask for a ppp just like that. Why? because the ref would first have to decide whether or not the game will continue or regame after evaluation. That would basically mean Calm would know what Great was originally planning to do and great would be screwed if the game was decided to be continued. So at the spur of the moment, Great probably decided to improvise.

btw, This is just all my own speculation
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
May 06 2010 11:58 GMT
#853
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?


He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.

He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.



Exactly this. Playing on in that situation has to mean this. If you get a rematch when you lose and a win you win would be unfar for Calm. Great made a mistake not PPPPPPPing
jaesung
Profile Joined November 2006
124 Posts
May 06 2010 11:58 GMT
#854
according to caster... samsung coach actually told ref. there was something wrong with the map, drone not being able to pass the invisible egg in mid of game yet ref. did not take any action.

after the game.. issue brought up, ref is asking why he didnt "ppp"?

i guess u guys saw a screen where samsung coach was furiously talking to ref about it..

caster shows little mercy to great for not being able to PPP due to shock and confusion he may had in during game.

Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 06 2010 11:58 GMT
#855
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?


He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.

He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.


Yep, agree. If January is so sure something is wrong with the map, then great must have been very confident in practice, then he shld have ppp'ed. I feel bad for Calm.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 06 2010 11:58 GMT
#856
I wasnt watching, wth is going on?
beep boop
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
May 06 2010 11:59 GMT
#857
On May 06 2010 20:58 nozaro33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:52 Malinor wrote:
On May 06 2010 20 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              06 2010 20      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:50 nozaro33 wrote:
On May 06 2010 20:48 Malinor wrote:
Whether or not it's is fault or a map problem, he should have PPP'ed right away, you cannot play the game out and complain about this afterwards.


um... but he couldn't see the gas... at least the replay proves it


That is why he should have asked for a pause.


um... first off, you can't ask for a ppp just like that. Why? because the ref would first have to decide whether or not the game will continue or regame after evaluation. That would basically mean Calm would know what Great was originally planning to do and great would be screwed if the game was decided to be continued. So at the spur of the moment, Great probably decided to improvise.

btw, This is just all my own speculation

who says you have to tell calm why you're giving a regame?
brood war for life, brood war forever
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
May 06 2010 11:59 GMT
#858
On May 06 2010 20:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:
On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?


He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.

He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.

To be fair, this is the furthest great has ever got in any league and I'm sure he's nervous as all hell.... I doubt he would want to rock the boat - hence why January raised the alarm.

Exactly this.

However, I think the issue here was decisive in that game, especially in a ZvZ where the slightest mistake or delay can cost you.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 06 2010 11:59 GMT
#859
On May 06 2010 20:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:
On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?


He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.

He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.

To be fair, this is the furthest great has ever got in any league and I'm sure he's nervous as all hell.... I doubt he would want to rock the boat - hence why January raised the alarm.


Yeah If he'd paused, the series wouldn't have been ruined for the players.
Now there's no fair way to judge it.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
May 06 2010 12:00 GMT
#860
On May 06 2010 20:58 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:
On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?


He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.

He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.



Exactly this. Playing on in that situation has to mean this. If you get a rematch when you lose and a win you win would be unfar for Calm. Great made a mistake not PPPPPPPing

Seriously though. This is more legit than the fucking dumbfuck effort who complains about HIS equipment after he loses while great is complaining about KESPA's map after he loses.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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