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On May 06 2010 20:52 d_so wrote:man how awesome is it that you have a coach out there fighting for you and raising a fucking ruckus while you chill in the back.
seems like great is not going back in the booth... posturing? or are we going to finally see MSL pay for their incompetence and have a player refuse to participate edit: Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:52 KristianJS wrote:
But if he PPed and said "lol I can't manage to expo" then Calm would have know exactly what was going on.... that's a good point
And the coach is hot too.
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This is a pretty big screw up. Hosting the game with the wrong map, or distributing the wrong map to the players, either is pretty bad.
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On May 06 2010 20:55 roronoe wrote:
This is a pretty big screw up. Hosting the game with the wrong map, or distributing the wrong map to the players, either is pretty bad.
Like the boxer dropship incident?
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rage January rage!
<3 esports drama
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On May 06 2010 20:55 roronoe wrote:
This is a pretty big screw up. Hosting the game with the wrong map, or distributing the wrong map to the players, either is pretty bad.
Assumptions.
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miraculously sucky league
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On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?
He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames.
He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.
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MSL - when in doubt Commercial yourself out.
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It looked like great did everything he possibly can to try and see the geyser. It looks like he got close enought to the invisi eggs and moved around. Map imba.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?
He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames. He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.
To be fair, this is the furthest great has ever got in any league and I'm sure he's nervous as all hell.... I doubt he would want to rock the boat - hence why January raised the alarm.
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more last samurai music! YES!
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On May 06 2010 20:52 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 06 2010 20 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:50 nozaro33 wrote:On May 06 2010 20:48 Malinor wrote:
Whether or not it's is fault or a map problem, he should have PPP'ed right away, you cannot play the game out and complain about this afterwards. um... but he couldn't see the gas... at least the replay proves it That is why he should have asked for a pause.
um... first off, you can't ask for a ppp just like that. Why? because the ref would first have to decide whether or not the game will continue or regame after evaluation. That would basically mean Calm would know what Great was originally planning to do and great would be screwed if the game was decided to be continued. So at the spur of the moment, Great probably decided to improvise.
btw, This is just all my own speculation
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?
He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames. He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.
Exactly this. Playing on in that situation has to mean this. If you get a rematch when you lose and a win you win would be unfar for Calm. Great made a mistake not PPPPPPPing
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according to caster... samsung coach actually told ref. there was something wrong with the map, drone not being able to pass the invisible egg in mid of game yet ref. did not take any action.
after the game.. issue brought up, ref is asking why he didnt "ppp"?
i guess u guys saw a screen where samsung coach was furiously talking to ref about it..
caster shows little mercy to great for not being able to PPP due to shock and confusion he may had in during game.
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On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?
He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames. He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell.
Yep, agree. If January is so sure something is wrong with the map, then great must have been very confident in practice, then he shld have ppp'ed. I feel bad for Calm.
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I wasnt watching, wth is going on?
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On May 06 2010 20:58 nozaro33 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:52 Malinor wrote:On May 06 2010 20 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 06 2010 20 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:50 nozaro33 wrote:On May 06 2010 20:48 Malinor wrote:
Whether or not it's is fault or a map problem, he should have PPP'ed right away, you cannot play the game out and complain about this afterwards. um... but he couldn't see the gas... at least the replay proves it That is why he should have asked for a pause. um... first off, you can't ask for a ppp just like that. Why? because the ref would first have to decide whether or not the game will continue or regame after evaluation. That would basically mean Calm would know what Great was originally planning to do and great would be screwed if the game was decided to be continued. So at the spur of the moment, Great probably decided to improvise. btw, This is just all my own speculation
who says you have to tell calm why you're giving a regame?
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On May 06 2010 20:57 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?
He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames. He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell. To be fair, this is the furthest great has ever got in any league and I'm sure he's nervous as all hell.... I doubt he would want to rock the boat - hence why January raised the alarm.
Exactly this.
However, I think the issue here was decisive in that game, especially in a ZvZ where the slightest mistake or delay can cost you.
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On May 06 2010 20:57 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?
He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames. He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell. To be fair, this is the furthest great has ever got in any league and I'm sure he's nervous as all hell.... I doubt he would want to rock the boat - hence why January raised the alarm.
Yeah If he'd paused, the series wouldn't have been ruined for the players.
Now there's no fair way to judge it.
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On May 06 2010 20:58 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2010 20:56 StylishVODs wrote:On May 06 2010 20:53 darktreb wrote:
Why does everyone think he should have insta-ppp'd? What if they ask him to prove it and it turns out he screwed up, then it's instant DQ. He might have just freaked out and been like "not sure what's going on gogo" ... if you immediately think ppp then what if they're like "show me" and it doesn't happen the second time?
He must have played that map 100s of times. He would know something is wrong, i don't think he failed to expand like 50% of the practicegames. He must pause when the problem occur, otherwise he will play on and get victory if he win and rematch if he lose, now thats really unfair aswell. Exactly this. Playing on in that situation has to mean this. If you get a rematch when you lose and a win you win would be unfar for Calm. Great made a mistake not PPPPPPPing
Seriously though. This is more legit than the fucking dumbfuck effort who complains about HIS equipment after he loses while great is complaining about KESPA's map after he loses.
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