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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
February 15 2010 12:22 GMT
#2041
On February 15 2010 21:18 pilot- wrote:
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paint rocks^^


I think he had a wall there, but I think he lifted his rax after he started building his tanks. Not sure thought, I'll have to watch it again once the youtube links are up.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
uppTagg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden473 Posts
February 15 2010 12:25 GMT
#2042
He put the rax down next to his bunker.
men du... Tagga!
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 12:42:09
February 15 2010 12:31 GMT
#2043
Why did Idra losing create such a shitstorm? It happens (Jaedong is 0-3 v Hyuk and Flash has lost to minesweeper zerg before). Non of the games went to an honest showcase of skills. Game 1 was a build directly countering another build, game 2 was game 2, game 3 was a proxy tech that idra could have thwarted away if he followed standard siege expand and went ebay before academy (and possibly if he didnt let 1 reaver shot damage 3 tanks), games 4 and 5 where more all in proxies...Congrats to nony of course but he won in typical protoss gayness.

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Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
February 15 2010 12:33 GMT
#2044
On February 15 2010 18:02 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 17:42 FirstBorn wrote:
On February 15 2010 16:49 Ronald_McD wrote:
Idra vs Nony was such a terrible series. I typed a big long read on why I thought it was so bad, but then TL went down for 15 minutes and I don't have it copied anymore.


Yes, it didn't feature any huge macro battles or any strategical brilliance but the series was very intense and tbh, I'm delighted the ro8 featured so many upsets. The TSL just got much more interesting, I have virtually no idea who could take it.

There was no upsets in the ro8. I got 100% liquibet, and so did anyone who is smart.

Yay I have a perfect round, too. Put me up like 400 spots. But seriously i voted for nony because I had the feeling, that Idra would lose exactly like he did. I also somehow expected the ret vs sen games to be like they were. I don't know but after I saw his first games, I thought he's the kind of guy who tries to break his opponent with brute force not going into the muta stage. Well mondi was kind of easy and JF and white-ra I didn't even know who i voted for^^.
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
February 15 2010 12:43 GMT
#2045
I think Idra losing is big because the talk before the game. I mean if you go out and say you are gonna 3-0, and that Nonys only chance is to chees, but that he cant pull chees of so its 100% win for me, well then you kinda need to be able to back that up. If you dont, you not only got shit comming for you, you also deservs it.

Nony also said he was gonna win, but he had a totally different approach int he way he said it.

Abit same goes for Fenix tbh. His talk before playing Mondi just made him look like a complete idiot.

Tbh for Idra that protoss is gayness or whatever it is terran fanboys call it. Terran the hardcore, pure and fair faction that you can not chees, or lame with.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 12:54:19
February 15 2010 12:54 GMT
#2046
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13480 Posts
February 15 2010 12:59 GMT
#2047
Ah, well that was a massive letdown.

Nony didn't look too confident in his late-game abilities vs Idra judging from the really aggressive builds.

In saying that though, Idra made a big mistake 14ccing in the last game imo.

Not gonna lie, I was hoping to see Idra vs Sen/Mondo in the finals, but meh Nony and JF are both sick PvZ players so it will be good either way.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 15 2010 13:02 GMT
#2048
Nony didn't disappoint
Brood War loyalist
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
February 15 2010 14:42 GMT
#2049
nony is nony.
it's better to see idra losing than to see anyone winning!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
February 15 2010 14:48 GMT
#2050
Bad for this tourney btw. that the best player goes out in the Ro8.

A JF vs Mondi final is cool in terms of history and oldschoolness but these are just plain bad players compared to IdrA. Sad to see him go out unlucky like that. I mean outsider game? Come on..
Bisu... ;-(
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
February 15 2010 14:48 GMT
#2051
AHAHAH JF BEAT WHITE-RA AFTER A 3-0 Deficit


...and.. Idra lost in game 5?
wow.. O_O go Nony
cw)minsean(ru
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
February 15 2010 14:48 GMT
#2052
Finally watched the games. I'm so sad I missed the live action and I would have loved to be on irc when idra cancelled the CC... I can only imagine it.
GG!
화이팅
Wfat
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia108 Posts
February 15 2010 15:09 GMT
#2053
On February 15 2010 16:49 Ronald_McD wrote:
Idra vs Nony was such a terrible series. I typed a big long read on why I thought it was so bad, but then TL went down for 15 minutes and I don't have it copied anymore.

It was a cheesefest full of lame mistakes and build order counters. The commentary was actually poor. I know everyone's going to shit on me for this, but Tasteless really wasn't into it. I guess he was tired as hell or something, but he kept saying redundant things. Artosis did okay. But they both missed some important things entirely (when Idra did the vulture run by into Nony's main) or pointed them out really late (the proxy robo bay on Outsider).


I semi agree with you. I was really hoping to see long epic games - even though not probably in reality due to Idra's strong mechanics if such a situation arose. I was saddened that the ESC mistake occurred in game 2 - I sympathise with Idra and also at the lost potential of that game. It seemed like the vod was being played at x2 speed for some reason for me throughout the series (because the games were so short).. However the series was certainly by no means terrible, come on mate...

Tentatively I'm going to agree regarding the commentary - but perhaps that's because I watched the vods from the previous day straight beforehand. Not only am I a zerg player and the games were great, but the commentary from Day & Chill, and Day solo was fking outstandingly amazing <3. I also think that tasteless didn't seem into it, I noted multiple occasions where he / artosis were not commenting on the on-screen action (as you mentioned the vulture run-by into Nony's natural on desti). Perhaps it's because tasteless's current commentating style has been heavily influenced by the less-hardcore GOM audience, but I was really after a solid flowing strategical analysis e.g. how Day casts, which I didn't feel was prominent enough in the casts (obviously 4am-10am live cast times are a huge factor). Nevertheless all the commentators are awesome.. the criticism is 100% genuinely constructive.

Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 15 2010 15:10 GMT
#2054
On February 15 2010 23:48 SkytoM wrote:
Bad for this tourney btw. that the best player goes out in the Ro8.

A JF vs Mondi final is cool in terms of history and oldschoolness but these are just plain bad players compared to IdrA. Sad to see him go out unlucky like that. I mean outsider game? Come on..
plain bad? hahahaha
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 15 2010 15:13 GMT
#2055
On February 15 2010 23:48 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
AHAHAH JF BEAT WHITE-RA AFTER A 3-0 Deficit


...and.. Idra lost in game 5?
wow.. O_O go Nony


JF came back after losing the series? Now THAT is impressive.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 15 2010 15:15 GMT
#2056
On February 15 2010 23:48 SkytoM wrote:
Bad for this tourney btw. that the best player goes out in the Ro8.

A JF vs Mondi final is cool in terms of history and oldschoolness but these are just plain bad players compared to IdrA. Sad to see him go out unlucky like that. I mean outsider game? Come on..

seriously? :/
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
February 15 2010 15:18 GMT
#2057
One thing Tasteless (and Artosis) could do that would, I think, help with some of this criticism: Stop saying that you're excited about the game that just started, or that we can expect high-level play, or that you don't know what's going to happen/who's going to win, or that you can't wait to see what happens next, or... Sometimes there's not a lot to talk about, of course. Especially at the start. But I think the Day/Chill team has been filling lulls in the action better.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 15 2010 15:19 GMT
#2058
I can see why people are disappointed with how NonY vs IdrA turned out, but personally it was one of the most tense and nailbiting series in TSL so far. Yes, we didn't see the typical drawn-out macro games of 5 base Protoss with Arbiter vs upgrade Terrans. Honestly, aren't you tired of those games? It is true that both players made unusual mistakes and I don't know if they played to their full potential. All I know is that there were fantastic tactics and innovative decisions made throughout the series. NonY's sword against IdrA's shield. I loved the series.
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 16:21:54
February 15 2010 15:27 GMT
#2059
On February 16 2010 00:10 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2010 23:48 SkytoM wrote:
Bad for this tourney btw. that the best player goes out in the Ro8.

A JF vs Mondi final is cool in terms of history and oldschoolness but these are just plain bad players compared to IdrA. Sad to see him go out unlucky like that. I mean outsider game? Come on..
plain bad? hahahaha


there is this word "compared". take a dictionary. maybe you get it.

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Bisu... ;-(
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
February 15 2010 15:31 GMT
#2060
On February 16 2010 00:27 SkytoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 00:10 Carnac wrote:
On February 15 2010 23:48 SkytoM wrote:
Bad for this tourney btw. that the best player goes out in the Ro8.

A JF vs Mondi final is cool in terms of history and oldschoolness but these are just plain bad players compared to IdrA. Sad to see him go out unlucky like that. I mean outsider game? Come on..
plain bad? hahahaha


there is this word "compared". take a dictionary. maybe you get it.

throw your dictionary away and grab some common sense. so you mention the outsider game. what about it? idra got unlucky because he fucked up his micro? only "unlucky" game was game 2. even then it was his own damn fault.
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