[TSL] PS.com TSL Ro8 Day 2 - Page 105

On February 16 2010 02:38 Sadistx wrote:
The game on outsider was so fucking painful to watch.

Idra, how the fuck do you let ONE SCARAB get 3 of your tanks to red? I'm one of the biggest IdrA fans, but honestly I have seen better reaver defense from D+ players - at least they spam a bunch of turrets so the shuttle doesn't get to this range so easily. Idra just let nony trade a goon for 2 tanks - this is not a mistake A+ players should be making.

Last game could have been saved by blocking nat with another supply depot - it might just have delayed the push enough to get siege up and 2 vults out.

Now if they were to play a Bo50, Idra would win without a doubt, but yesterday his play was undeniably subpar.

On February 16 2010 02:58 baubo wrote:
Won't get a chance to watch the vods for a while. But why does Idra still get cheesed to death?

When I watch Koreans play in the WCG, they use these super-conservative uncheesable builds. Where they don't care even if the foreigner gets an early game advantage. I know Idra's not at that level, but no reason why should be going for greedy builds ever.

On February 16 2010 03:16 Empyrean wrote:


The skill difference between the Koreans in WCG (mainly top Koreans such as Lux, Bisu, Stork, etc.) and Nony is greater than the skill difference between Idra and Nony to such an extent that if Idra used a super safe build that put him at a disadvantage, Nony would be favored to win.

On February 16 2010 01:54 samachking wrote:


Idra's build has been used before, the 2 estro terrans and Flash have been going 1rax CC recently TvP. Also Nony's build is not new, 4gate goon PvT is one of the strongest all ins if T is FEing, I remember Draco using it vs Midas in wcg 06 and even tastless mentioned that in the commentary.

On February 16 2010 02:56 Sadist wrote:



you obviously werent paying attention at all. He was doing the fantasy build which involves comsats and no turrets. He just got countered pretty well and It looked like he got siege late. He needed to build a few marines to at least force the shuttle around a bit until his wraith popped out.

On February 16 2010 02:56 Sadist wrote:



you obviously werent paying attention at all. He was doing the fantasy build which involves comsats and no turrets. He just got countered pretty well and It looked like he got siege late. He needed to build a few marines to at least force the shuttle around a bit until his wraith popped out.

On February 16 2010 08:07 monstar123 wrote:
I could not leave this thread with no attention.
First of all, LOL Buehaha hahahahhahahah
Second thing, Thank you IDRA for your clown interviews and sucking games.
Third, all idiots who told me about idras skill and him not being a turtle can run their heads into the wall.
Waiting for another clown interview by idra, about how Nony was lucky that day.
The fourth, ROFL hahahahaha.

On February 16 2010 02:50 Musoeun wrote:
If Flash can lose a series to Kwanro, Idra can lose one to Nony. It doesn't make either of them bad players; unlucky, losers that day yes, bad no. I didn't see anyone suggest Flash should retire after losing to Kwanro. Why should Idra leave Korea - as some people are saying he should - because he lost a series to the colossal one-in-a-million games screwup of a canceled CC, against the only other foreign player who's done decently in Korea recently?

Not to take away from Nony, he did a fantastic job of keeping Idra off-balance (or predicting, not sure which, but Idra lost that series with the game two mistake; he was obviously rattled in game three as well (his micro was off).

Shit, as they say, happens. If the favorite won every time, why would we even play the games? I know it sucks for you if you were one of the people predicting nobody can beat Idra might as well crown him already, but it's not the end of the world.

On February 16 2010 08:12 Harem wrote:

Can't wait for another clown post by you either.

On February 16 2010 08:14 BlackYoshi wrote:

2nd 2010 Nate MBCGame Starleague
1st 2010 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
1st 2009 Averatec-Intel Classic Season 3
2nd 2008 TG-Intel Classic Season 1
1st 2008 XNote GOMTV Star Invitational
1st 2008 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague

That's Flash. Flash has done enough that he'll drop a game sometimes (and its not like Kwanro is bad by anymeans, just like Nony). But Flash doesn't trash talk and has a quiet confidence, not a cocky "Nony can only beat me by cheesing" (like cheesing is somehow a less legitimate strategy?)

Here's idra:
a bunch of foreign tournaments that really don't mean shit to Korea and that any A-teamer would win.

Idra practices 12 hours a day and still couldn't beat a guy in a Bo5 who just got back into playing high-level Starcraft. At this point, Idra should just give up on SC in preparation for SC2, where maybe he can make a bigger splash (the SC pro scene will lose popularity when SC2 comes out rapidly)

And Idra lost one game because he spazed out and canceled his CC. Whats his excuse for losing on Outsider, or Game 5?

And being rattled by a mistake like the game 2 one is poor pressure management. Good athletes put mistakes behind them and focus on making the mistake irrelevant by getting themselves out of their situation. Idra was clearly rattled by the game 2, and then the game 3 loss.