EPT//e: also i never said that it wasn't his fault. it was also bisus fault for dropping out against Iris in the Ro8. Was it bad for the Tournament? HELL YES
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
//e: also i never said that it wasn't his fault. it was also bisus fault for dropping out against Iris in the Ro8. Was it bad for the Tournament? HELL YES | ||
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Sadness
Brazil552 Posts
That series was amazing | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On February 16 2010 00:35 SkytoM wrote: i just think a final with IdrA would have more "skill" in it than a mondi vs JF for example. And i think thats common sense. by "skill" you mean dying to unorthodox tactics/builds? i am sick of this "everyone lacks skill compared to idra." i don't even understand what the point of that is. true skill, to me, is ability to adapt to various situations and knowing how to beat your opponent three times before he does. your claim that idra losing makes the tournament bad is solely your opinion and your opinion only. a lot of people wanted to see nony upset idra and are more excited now that there is no clear favorite. | ||
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PiePie
United States248 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On February 16 2010 00:27 SkytoM wrote: careful.there is this word "compared". take a dictionary. maybe you get it. they are not plain bad compared to him, that's a load of fucking horseshit | ||
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MacWorld
Sweden227 Posts
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SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
On February 16 2010 00:45 Carnac wrote: careful. they are not plain bad compared to him, that's a load of fucking horseshit xiauzi ( hope i got that right ) was. And i guess JF and Mondi would go down in Flames. only ret, white-ra and nony can stand up to IdrA. And as we saw, nony can only through his race. also maybe you guys are sick off the "everybody lacks skill compared to idra " posts, but i am sick that when idra loses one game a shitstorm starts. IdrA lacks against Cheese, its his extreme wide achilles thing. we ALL know that. BUT(!) Nony lacks in everything ( compared to idra ) but Cheesing. Micro, Macro, Mechanics, these are Terms where spectators can define skill. IdrA is the best foreigner in all of those. He is just so vulnerable against Cheese. | ||
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1984
Ukraine115 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On February 16 2010 00:51 SkytoM wrote: xiauzi ( hope i got that right ) was. And i guess JF and Mondi would go down in Flames. only ret, white-ra and nony can stand up to IdrA. And as we saw, nony can only through his race. also maybe you guys are sick off the "everybody lacks skill compared to idra " posts, but i am sick that when idra loses one game a shitstorm starts. IdrA lacks against Cheese, its his extreme wide achilles thing. we ALL know that. BUT(!) Nony lacks in everything ( compared to idra ) but Cheesing. Micro, Macro, Mechanics, these are Terms where spectators can define skill. IdrA is the best foreigner in all of those. He is just so vulnerable against Cheese. my point is you can't just say that idra outclasses nony in every mechanical aspect. because for all we know, nony clearly outmicroed idra on outsider. | ||
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Lesotho777 Posts
On February 16 2010 00:51 SkytoM wrote: xiauzi ( hope i got that right ) was. And i guess JF and Mondi would go down in Flames. only ret, white-ra and nony can stand up to IdrA. And as we saw, nony can only through his race. also maybe you guys are sick off the "everybody lacks skill compared to idra " posts, but i am sick that when idra loses one game a shitstorm starts. IdrA lacks against Cheese, its his extreme wide achilles thing. we ALL know that. BUT(!) Nony lacks in everything ( compared to idra ) but Cheesing. Micro, Macro, Mechanics, these are Terms where spectators can define skill. IdrA is the best foreigner in all of those. He is just so vulnerable against Cheese. blablablabla bullshit. Micro, Macro, Mechanics, these are Terms where spectators can define skill oh, a spectator can only evaluate a players skill by measuring his mouse and keyboard clicky? because thats all you listed, mechanics = micro,macro. maybe you should learn to use ur brain than you would measure their skill on other factors. this is a real time strategy game not a click fest game although it is a lot of clicky clicky. Isreal won the war in the 60ies against the arab countries by beeing very quick and finishing the war early on. how lame right? they aint got no skill at all. why didn't those lamers wait until the arabs were ready for the war? Or the gay germans who walked over the benelux to defeat france, how lame they killed the neutral temple to walk into the main from behind, gay cheesers. btw. what makes you think that White-Ra stands a chance against IdrA rather than JF? Isn't it more like that White-Ras style suits IdrA much better than JFs? | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
On February 15 2010 18:02 Mastermind wrote: There was no upsets in the ro8. I got 100% liquibet, and so did anyone who is smart. Give me a fucking break. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Also fifth game was genius by Nony, reminded me of the scv rushes from Flash against Bisu, but even more baller  | ||
KwarK
United States41980 Posts
On February 16 2010 00:53 1984 wrote: Have you guys seen the strategy that Nony used in game 5 somewhere in Korean leagues? Just curious if Nony invented it, if so -- mad props to him I don't think we've seen the build idra used in a progame. Nony used a specific counter. His play was caused by idra's. | ||
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Sha-Mat
Greece277 Posts
LoL ! What a great answer really! Still laughing | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On February 16 2010 01:40 KwarK wrote: I don't think we've seen the build idra used in a progame. Nony used a specific counter. His play was caused by idra's. Idra's build has been used before, the 2 estro terrans and Flash have been going 1rax CC recently TvP. Also Nony's build is not new, 4gate goon PvT is one of the strongest all ins if T is FEing, I remember Draco using it vs Midas in wcg 06 and even tastless mentioned that in the commentary. | ||
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On February 16 2010 01:54 samachking wrote: Idra's build has been used before, the 2 estro terrans and Flash have been going 1rax CC recently TvP. Also Nony's build is not new, 4gate goon PvT is one of the strongest all ins if T is FEing, I remember Draco using it vs Midas in wcg 06 and even tastless mentioned that in the commentary. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12344_BackHo_vs_sKyHigh You can see it here too. However, Backho starts off with a gas steal to force the 1rax CC. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On February 16 2010 01:56 Harem wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/12344_BackHo_vs_sKyHigh You can see it here too. However, Backho starts off with a gas steal to force the 1rax CC. One of the best PvT decisions ever. I always wish and pray that protoss who gas steal do a 4gate rush afterwards. I am pretty sure not even Flash could defend that. | ||
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Baddieko
Singapore855 Posts
Seemed like nony really tested idra the absolute fundamentals of the game whereas he only trained advanced macro in the CJ house. Such surprise plays or unorthodox builds are still evident in official games, idra as a progamer should have known how to counter those. Nony probably prepared only for a week given his personality. If he continued to stay in korea no doubt will reach full potential, but he made better choice for money and opportunity in his related field. Mad props to idra though, although its not a wise choice to play in korea given he don't rise to S class, at least he likes what he is doing and thats enough. | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Idra, how the fuck do you let ONE SCARAB get 3 of your tanks to red? I'm one of the biggest IdrA fans, but honestly I have seen better reaver defense from D+ players - at least they spam a bunch of turrets so the shuttle doesn't get to this range so easily. Idra just let nony trade a goon for 2 tanks - this is not a mistake A+ players should be making. Last game could have been saved by blocking nat with another supply depot - it might just have delayed the push enough to get siege up and 2 vults out. Now if they were to play a Bo50, Idra would win without a doubt, but yesterday his play was undeniably subpar. | ||
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