EPTOn February 01 2010 19:43 lyhb wrote:
you know more about sc than programers? damn these noobie kids online
you know more about sc than programers? damn these noobie kids online
Thats not even close to what he was suggesting.
Take a step back.
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Hopkingreenfrog
Australia144 Posts
Thats not even close to what he was suggesting. Take a step back. | ||
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:44 Frenzied_Tank wrote: To the professional replay from a progamer called lyhb, have you ever thought about the fact games just dont last any longer so they dont know how to? What are you talking about? Progamers play plenty of long zvz's in practice | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
LOL yeah thats exactly it. | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:45 MountainDewJunkie wrote: I smell BBS. Or maybe that awful 2-port wraith build. That awful 2port wraith build should work vs Zero who is like 0-10 vs Leta. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:43 lyhb wrote: you know more about sc than programers? damn these noobie kids online That is not true. Players can easily force a late game ZvZ by skillfully adding up their spore colony count in their base. The only problem with this is that it becomes difficult to move out once your opponent has map control w/ mutas. Still, at times when everything is just right, players will transition to higher tech and begin to expand, at which point you see everyunit in play except the Infested Terran for obvious reasons, unless there is a neutral CC on the map, then I'm sure someone would utilize that structure as well. | ||
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Frenzied_Tank
Germany100 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:46 roMAD wrote: What are you talking about? Progamers play plenty of long zvz's in practice yup i know, but do any take longer than 10 minutes? thats what im not sure of. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:46 samachking wrote: That was simply a fuck up and bad play from JD. He put the spire/evo there to create a wall with a sunk in behind. You dont send all your lings to defend vs 2 lings, he should've just sent 2-3. Thanks. | ||
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Katkishka
United States657 Posts
The only other TvZ I remember watching him play semi-recently, he just went fast tech and died. I don't even think he got a vessel Not cool. | ||
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roMAD
Russia2355 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:48 Frenzied_Tank wrote: yup i know, but do any take longer than 10 minutes? thats what im not sure of. Long zvz is longer than 10 minutes you know. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:47 samachking wrote: That awful 2port wraith build should work vs Zero who is like 0-10 vs Leta. Leta whoops on Zero without that build. Also, Leta isn't playing sooooo... | ||
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Wonders
Australia753 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:48 Qwertify wrote: That is not true. Players can easily force a late game ZvZ by skillfully adding up their spore colony count in their base. The only problem with this is that it becomes difficult to move out once your opponent has map control w/ mutas. Still, at times when everything is just right, players will transition to higher tech and begin to expand, at which point you see everyunit in play except the Infested Terran for obvious reasons, unless there is a neutral CC on the map, then I'm sure someone would utilize that structure as well. I think the reason is that if they scout that you've teched, then they have suddenly have map control and they can expo then just tech themselves. | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:48 Qwertify wrote: That is not true. Players can easily force a late game ZvZ by skillfully adding up their spore colony count in their base. The only problem with this is that it becomes difficult to move out once your opponent has map control w/ mutas. Still, at times when everything is just right, players will transition to higher tech and begin to expand, at which point you see everyunit in play except the Infested Terran for obvious reasons, unless there is a neutral CC on the map, then I'm sure someone would utilize that structure as well. hahaha. ejoy your spore colonies, mean while your opponent is abusing his map control expanding and sniping off drones and eventually winning the game, just like we just saw zero do to jaedong. | ||
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Frenzied_Tank
Germany100 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:46 raga4ka wrote: It had nothing to do with arrogance it was to block lings runby in main and for simcity , but Jaedong fucked up and followed with his lings the 2 lings that Zero snicked in to Jaedons main and that gave zero the chance to snipe the spire . True, but isn't blocking lings with a the key building kind of.... ironic? I'm really just trying to get a better understanding of this. It just doesn't seem worth it. Heck, I'd rather place a second evo chamber than endangering my spire like this... | ||
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Redshirt
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:48 Qwertify wrote: That is not true. Players can easily force a late game ZvZ by skillfully adding up their spore colony count in their base. The only problem with this is that it becomes difficult to move out once your opponent has map control w/ mutas. Still, at times when everything is just right, players will transition to higher tech and begin to expand, at which point you see everyunit in play except the Infested Terran for obvious reasons, unless there is a neutral CC on the map, then I'm sure someone would utilize that structure as well. You just said it yourself, the only way to comeback from the map control loss if you build spores is if the other zerg suicides everything at the spores. There is no reason to build spores unless you are way behind in tech. There is no reason to go lategame ZvZ because there is a large gap of timing till the greater spire finishes where the other zerg will be way ahead and will have full map control due to cutting mutas, Queen nest 150/100?Hive 200/150 and Greater spire I forgot the cost, but its a lot of money and there is a huge timing gap, so unless both Zergs are unwilling to engage its just not going to work. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:51 Redshirt wrote: Woah Lomo. Good to see that he's still alive. I thought he was dead for sure lol. | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
 ZerO @ bottom left Lomo @ top rightwelcome back lomo! | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On February 01 2010 19:50 Mooncat wrote: True, but isn't blocking lings with a the key building kind of.... ironic? I'm really just trying to get a better understanding of this. It just doesn't seem worth it. Heck, I'd rather place a second evo chamber than endangering my spire like this... NO if you have your lings to defend it .... | ||
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