EPT[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 191
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:18 gravity wrote: The most fair way to decide an outage game, if a regame is impossible, would be to calculate the probability of each player winning (somehow - maybe base it on statistics from past matches, or better yet, live gambling odds if available) and pick randomly according to those odds (so if Flash had a 20% chance of winning, you would choose a random number from 1 to 100 and give Flash the win if you got 20 or less, otherwise give the win to Jaedong). I can guarantee THAT solution would result in riots.  | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:17 boredcouch wrote: Just like it basketball, "THE BALL NEVER LIES". "Bad" calls happen all the time but the best can persevere through them. In this case, once the vods come out we will see that Jaedong was clearly ahead in game 3. Wait wait wait, your saying that flash isnt the best because he didnt win a series with a game handicap against him? ok that make sense :\ | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Winner gets the MSL title. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
The fact that fanboys from both sides refuses to admit is that the game was fucked when the outage happened. No fair decision could have resulted from it, short of somehow loading a saved game. | ||
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din
Hungary27 Posts
I should use word 'gifted' | ||
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No, I think Jaedong deserved to win. I also think Jaedong would have won anyway the way the games were going. I'm not shitting on Jaedong here. But MBC and KESPA could not have made bigger fools out of themselves. The entire event was an utter embarrassment to e-sports and a middle finger to every fan of StarCraft. Flash and Jaedong fans alike should be upset about just about everything that occurred tonight: from the MSL finals not being live, to the technical difficulties, to the drama over Jaedong's free win, to the entire spectacle. This wasn't a StarLeague final, this was a circus and a waste of time for fans of Flash, Jaedong, and mostly the players themselves. That sounds more like you. I agree completely with everything you wrote. | ||
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Ideas
United States8174 Posts
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Kind of ironic that in trying to reverse the decision and bring Flash back to 1-1, they screwed up game 4 and sealed the series 3-1 Jaedong. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:19 iG.SwOrD wrote: So giving the win to JD who had the edge in the game is blasphemy while giving a re-game to Flash who was losing is okay? Damn i got it now , its all about Flash. The game usually goes to the player who had advantage and everybody knows who had the edge. Was it all 'fair and square' ? Hell since when everything in this world is fair? The world doesn't have rules. A simple computer game that not too many random events can occur in should. Expecting Kespa to have better rules isn't asking the world to suddenly be filled with faeries and unicorns shitting out rainbows and sunshine. It's asking a group that runs a competition to put some better thought into how they run their tournaments since their current system is obviously flawed. | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
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snapcrackle
United States568 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:20 Ace wrote: and for the last time JAEDONG DID NOT HAVE FULL TECH game 3. Jesus. It was going to come down to MM/Vessel vs Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge micro AGAIN. Stop making shit up for fucks sake. If Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge isn't full tech what is? | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:17 boredcouch wrote: Just like it basketball, "THE BALL NEVER LIES". "Bad" calls happen all the time but the best can persevere through them. In this case, once the vods come out we will see that Jaedong was clearly ahead in game 3. Where do you draw the line though, power outage after the scouting SCV dies give the game to JD cos he's ahead? That's why most people probably agree with regame unless the winner is 95%+ clear. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:21 TheYango wrote: Honestly, IMO the real blame for screwing up Flash's mental state for game 4 falls on Flash's dad and his coaches. The power outage happened, yes. Kespa is fucked one way or another. But you know what? Flash can deal. Awarded wins have happened before, and Flash is capable of handling that. What destroyed him was his coaches' unprofessional response and his dad going downright apeshit. Yeah, his Dad probably should have kept his cool, but Flash is 17. He probably felt like his child was getting screwed over by adults. It isn't like Flash was going to object the decision. He's still a teenager; he wouldn't go up against people twice his age. | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
After JD got his free win in game 3 it was all over for flash making him play the 4th game was just a huge insult to him. The only reasonable thing was to replay the game, yes maybe JD would lose out one it a bit but if he now is the better player and deserves to win he should still be able to do it once again. The worst part is that there is no winners in all of this, JD didn't get a legitimate win and Flash didn't get to lose in an acceptable way. Personally I hope this is the end for MBC, they deserve no less. | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:22 snapcrackle wrote: If Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge isn't full tech what is? greater spire brah | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: No, I think Jaedong deserved to win. I also think Jaedong would have won anyway the way the games were going. I'm not shitting on Jaedong here. But MBC and KESPA could not have made bigger fools out of themselves. The entire event was an utter embarrassment to e-sports and a middle finger to every fan of StarCraft. Flash and Jaedong fans alike should be upset about just about everything that occurred tonight: from the MSL finals not being live, to the technical difficulties, to the drama over Jaedong's free win, to the entire spectacle. This wasn't a StarLeague final, this was a circus and a waste of time for fans of Flash, Jaedong, and mostly the players themselves. Flash fan here, agree with this 100 !@#%$!@ PERCENT. sleep FFFFFUUUUU | ||
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