On January 23 2010 21:22 snapcrackle wrote:
If Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge isn't full tech what is?
If Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge isn't full tech what is?
Bro, he obviously didn't have Broodling and Ensnare! Duh?!?
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boredcouch
United States110 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:22 snapcrackle wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2010 21:20 Ace wrote: and for the last time JAEDONG DID NOT HAVE FULL TECH game 3. Jesus. It was going to come down to MM/Vessel vs Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge micro AGAIN. Stop making shit up for fucks sake. If Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge isn't full tech what is? Bro, he obviously didn't have Broodling and Ensnare! Duh?!? | ||
iFU.pauline
France1410 Posts
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KristianJS
2107 Posts
There's not much point arguing about what was the right decision. If they replayed and Flash stomped JD and then bunker rushed him to death in game 4 it would have been tainted for Flash too. In actual fact JD was the one who got shafted here, because their decision meant that he was snubbed of any hope of a legit victory. So yeah, no winners in this MSL. | ||
machinus
United States288 Posts
This way, no one is happy except rabid Jaedong fans. | ||
FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:19 machinus wrote: Jaedong won two games, and was awarded the MSL title. There is no way to pretend that makes sense. Exactly. It's unfortunate that there was a black-out on game 3, but giving an automatic win to Jaedong was totally unfair to Flash, that game should of replayed. If Flash typed GG legitimately, I doubt the KT coach and his dad would be causing an uproar. | ||
verteqz
Canada89 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:19 iG.SwOrD wrote: So giving the win to JD who had the edge in the game is blasphemy while giving a re-game to Flash who was losing is okay? Damn i got it now , its all about Flash. The game usually goes to the player who had advantage and everybody knows who had the edge. Was it all 'fair and square' ? Hell since when everything in this world is fair? The point is that the advantage wasn't big enough to give JD a win. | ||
danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:20 Fionn wrote: Flash and Jaedong should just have a boxing match. Winner gets the MSL title. well... alright... but pretty much any swing jaedong takes is gona hit flash in the head. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
If you do believe strategy is 100% of who makes a better player, look at flash vs movie on hbr. Movie does *everything* right strategically, but still loses. Strategy alone doesn't make you a great player. | ||
L0thar
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:23 Fionn wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2010 21:21 TheYango wrote: Honestly, IMO the real blame for screwing up Flash's mental state for game 4 falls on Flash's dad and his coaches. The power outage happened, yes. Kespa is fucked one way or another. But you know what? Flash can deal. Awarded wins have happened before, and Flash is capable of handling that. What destroyed him was his coaches' unprofessional response and his dad going downright apeshit. Yeah, his Dad probably should have kept his cool, but Flash is 17. He probably felt like his child was getting screwed over by adults. It isn't like Flash was going to object the decision. He's still a teenager; he wouldn't go up against people twice his age. Like I said, it's ironic. In trying to make things fair for his son, he screwed up his son's mental state, which arguably caused Flash to fuck up horribly in game 4. | ||
prototype.
Canada4189 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:19 iG.SwOrD wrote: So giving the win to JD who had the edge in the game is blasphemy while giving a re-game to Flash who was losing is okay? Damn i got it now , its all about Flash. The game usually goes to the player who had advantage and everybody knows who had the edge. Was it all 'fair and square' ? Hell since when everything in this world is fair? believe it or not, there are actually ppl in tl that can't tell jd was in the lead | ||
DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:22 snapcrackle wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2010 21:20 Ace wrote: and for the last time JAEDONG DID NOT HAVE FULL TECH game 3. Jesus. It was going to come down to MM/Vessel vs Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge micro AGAIN. Stop making shit up for fucks sake. If Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge isn't full tech what is? Lurkers to defend a fucking possible drop maybe? Ultra/ling is not full tech. The same way as 3/3 MM isn't considered full tech. You know, because FULL TECH means every unit you'd expect to see in the match up. | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:24 FireGuyX wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2010 21:19 machinus wrote: Jaedong won two games, and was awarded the MSL title. There is no way to pretend that makes sense. Exactly. It's unfortunate that there was a black-out on game 3, but giving an automatic win to Jaedong was totally unfair to Flash, that game should of replayed. If Flash typed GG legitimately, I doubt the KT coach and his dad would be causing an uproar. A regame, as someone already mentioned, isn't the magical "fairest solution" in all circumstances. It sucks for the player who was ahead. | ||
Wings
United States999 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: OBVIOUSLY FLASH SUCKS FOR NOT PLAYING PERFECT STARCRAFT AFTER HAVING A WIN HANDED OVER TO HIS OPPONENT AND HAVING HIS TEAM AND COACH FIGHT WITH REFS FOR AN HOUR AND HAVING HIS DAD ESCORTED AWAY BY SECURITY This. Firstly, game 3 Kespa was the biggest mistake I've ever seen. Sure, Flash is down, and JD secured the double gas. But his bases had just been set up, and honestly, NO game is over until it's over, which is why we have something called "COMEBACKS" that happen quite a lot. Also, maybe for normal terrans it's impossible to comeback vs JD in that situation. BUT THIS IS FLASH. You can NEVER say it's over till it's over. If JD were in the same situation, I'd say the exact same thing. For both of these players, the only end is when one types "gg" or gets eliminated from the game. Second, Flash is LITERALLY A KID. GIVE THE KID A DAMN BREAK. He earns more money than any teenager around, everyone expects him to beat EVERYONE including JD and never lose, he's used like a sweat shop child worker, the power randomly goes out on his biggest match of the year, Kespa officials give the game away to JD when the game was not fully decided, his dad is forcibly removed from the premises, his teammates & coaches are absolutely pissed all around him, which probably stresses him out too... are you KIDDING ME? ~17 years old and having to deal with ALL THAT CRAP? such ignorant people around, saying JD this that, but never considering the situation of the other side. | ||
Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On January 23 2010 21:23 King K. Rool wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2010 21:22 snapcrackle wrote: On January 23 2010 21:20 Ace wrote: and for the last time JAEDONG DID NOT HAVE FULL TECH game 3. Jesus. It was going to come down to MM/Vessel vs Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge micro AGAIN. Stop making shit up for fucks sake. If Ultra/Ling/Defiler/Scourge isn't full tech what is? greater spire brah :D Thanks for bringing some lightness back into this thread. | ||
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