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KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 07 2010 12:03 GMT
#1901
On January 07 2010 21:01 MrHoon wrote:
I will translate what flash said about set 2 from Flash HIMSELF

Show nested quote +
" Match Point is a map where the only thing a terran player can do against a protoss player is defend. I was able to get 4 bases easily so my original plan was just to defend the recalls as much as possible, but when Best's macro started kicking in I started to get nervous. I knew the game was slanted towards me after a certain point, but even after that I was too scared to move out because of the previous attack done by BeSt. It wasn't my intentions to drag this game on for so long so I was disappointed with the game overrall. "


Thanks for that translation! Will you be doing the full interview soon too? :D
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 12:04:02
January 07 2010 12:03 GMT
#1902
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

Is it fun to watch when someone just rapes over and over and over? And he doesn't even have any flair or style. He just masses shit and attack moves, abuses maps, and makes tanks.

No it's not fun to watch as a viewer. It's like watching Oov back in his heydays when he just raped everything alive and everyone was like "This is gay".
God Bless
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 07 2010 12:03 GMT
#1903
On January 07 2010 21:03 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...


Entertainment.

I'm sorry flash can't fulfill your feeble ADHD mind
dats racist
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 07 2010 12:04 GMT
#1904
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

they want him to lose all the time, that way everything negative they say about him will be justified and the underdogs in the matches will carry the hero flag
@QxGDarkCell ._.
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 07 2010 12:04 GMT
#1905
THere are enough terran bonjwas. We don't want any more gay turtling, timing pushes or bunker rushes. :D
WWJDD??
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1906
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best PvT'er (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

What people want is more aggressive play from flash.

At first he was cheezing everyone

Then he was turtling.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1907
On January 07 2010 21:04 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

they want him to lose all the time, that way everything negative they say about him will be justified and the underdogs in the matches will carry the hero flag


Nah. Then people will just love him.
WWJDD??
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1908
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best PvT'er (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...


People just want action-packed games like Jaedong or Bisu, or players who show-off their talent / skill (Fantasy, Boxer, etc). They find it boring to watch some kid get to 200/200 (Old Flash, new Flash is closer to 96/105) then roll the other guy, without even looking phased. I don't understand what drives this hate for him other than blatant anti-fanboyism, or misguided expectations.
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1909
On January 07 2010 21:03 KristianJS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 MrHoon wrote:
I will translate what flash said about set 2 from Flash HIMSELF

" Match Point is a map where the only thing a terran player can do against a protoss player is defend. I was able to get 4 bases easily so my original plan was just to defend the recalls as much as possible, but when Best's macro started kicking in I started to get nervous. I knew the game was slanted towards me after a certain point, but even after that I was too scared to move out because of the previous attack done by BeSt. It wasn't my intentions to drag this game on for so long so I was disappointed with the game overrall. "


Thanks for that translation! Will you be doing the full interview soon too? :D


so that is why....
shows u how much of a beast flash thinks best is
8==========))
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1910
I actually liked it when Flash cheesed all the time. At least he was exciting. Now all he does is turtle, turtle, turtle, abuse greedy builds, and then make tanks and win.
Where's the excitement in that?
God Bless
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1911
I don't understand the desire to see Kwanro to roll Flash. I would guess that Jaedong fans upset at the bunker rush on HBR would want Flash to make it to the finals for Jaedong to exact revenge, but I guess I don't have the mentality of most.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1912
On January 07 2010 21:03 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...


Entertainment.



I've said this before, but I'll say it again: epic, entertaining matches can only result from a situation where the players are doing everything in their power to win. If the players have some attitude about wanting to entertain rather than win then you can kiss any epicness goodbye and start watching wrestling instead.

The fact is that both players were trying really hard to win, and Flash played too good for Best to have much of a chance at making things entertaining. The end.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1913
On January 07 2010 21:03 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

Is it fun to watch when someone just rapes over and over and over? And he doesn't even have any flair or style. He just masses shit and attack moves, abuses maps, and makes tanks.

No it's not fun to watch as a viewer. It's like watching Oov back in his heydays when he just raped everything alive and everyone was like "This is gay".


Just curious, how else do you play your TvP?...

Uh yeah, I think I'll make 1 tank, maybe a handful of marines, put them all on low ground and put them on stop position.

Like, these players play to win... People say Flash sucks because he has no SL's under his belt, and now he's playing with solid mechanics and confidence and rolling everyone. Now that he is doing what people say he wasn't doing, people do a LoLuMaD. Yeah sure thing.
Graphics
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1914
He has the most aggressive TvZ right now in the scene

What the hell do you people want?! Do you want flash to lose for your own entertainment?
dats racist
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 07 2010 12:07 GMT
#1915
On January 07 2010 20:58 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:50 endGame wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:47 Nevuk wrote:
Yay... Flash beat Best on 2 imba tvp maps. Congrats for him?


That is all.


Now not only SKT Protoss' will blame maps but also their fans? Nice to know :D



Thank you Flash & Best for kinda exciting series and thanks streamers for streaming


Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:52 7mk wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:51 dasanivan wrote:
during the interview flash said that he was worried because of best's unusually good macro even though he was at a huge advantage.

and he said he was disappointed that the game went on so long.

I think flash was only turtling so he would have a 100% chance to win instead of pushing and unexpectedly getting destroyed like he has been in the past by best.


yeah thats what I thought aswell

But doesn't like everyone know that you CAN'T be hasty with terran? They just use word turtle to flame because they hate Flash and when you do have someone you try to use any argument to offend him, right? In my mind turtling will always be something at like bnet 1v1 noobs lvl - you cover whole main with cannons to go to carriers or smth

EDIT: nvm, i see that not everyone knows the most obvious truth... Eg.
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:52 On_Slaught wrote:
(...)
As far as all the BM talk, I actually think it was more BM for Flash in game 2 to turtle after he had basically assured victory and decide to get nukes for some reason when he could of just walked over Best and ended the game 30min earlier with no chance of a loss.

I don't like SKT. I don't like them at all. Notice how in the bottom right of my post there's no team? Yeah, that's right. Actually, I don't like BeSt as a player at all. I'm very neutral. I just strongly dislike Flash, have for a while and these games cemented my image of him.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 07 2010 12:07 GMT
#1916
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best PvT'er (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

Well, actually its quite natural.
It happens in every sport actually. If one team wins so much, people will just hate that team, I think its in the natural of human want to support the weaker.
Like when I watch a football(soccer) match if my favourite not playing I will support the weaker team
Terran
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 07 2010 12:07 GMT
#1917
On January 07 2010 21:06 SilverskY wrote:
Just curious, how else do you play your TvP?...


Flash's marine rush against Bisu lol. But I totally agree with you.
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 07 2010 12:08 GMT
#1918
On January 07 2010 20:47 Ikonn wrote:
Best just browsing the internet now

+1111111111111111
Power is your Intelligence
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
January 07 2010 12:08 GMT
#1919
On January 07 2010 21:07 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:58 Kaniol wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:50 endGame wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:47 Nevuk wrote:
Yay... Flash beat Best on 2 imba tvp maps. Congrats for him?


That is all.


Now not only SKT Protoss' will blame maps but also their fans? Nice to know :D



Thank you Flash & Best for kinda exciting series and thanks streamers for streaming


On January 07 2010 20:52 7mk wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:51 dasanivan wrote:
during the interview flash said that he was worried because of best's unusually good macro even though he was at a huge advantage.

and he said he was disappointed that the game went on so long.

I think flash was only turtling so he would have a 100% chance to win instead of pushing and unexpectedly getting destroyed like he has been in the past by best.


yeah thats what I thought aswell

But doesn't like everyone know that you CAN'T be hasty with terran? They just use word turtle to flame because they hate Flash and when you do have someone you try to use any argument to offend him, right? In my mind turtling will always be something at like bnet 1v1 noobs lvl - you cover whole main with cannons to go to carriers or smth

EDIT: nvm, i see that not everyone knows the most obvious truth... Eg.
On January 07 2010 20:52 On_Slaught wrote:
(...)
As far as all the BM talk, I actually think it was more BM for Flash in game 2 to turtle after he had basically assured victory and decide to get nukes for some reason when he could of just walked over Best and ended the game 30min earlier with no chance of a loss.

I don't like SKT. I don't like them at all. Notice how in the bottom right of my post there's no team? Yeah, that's right. Actually, I don't like BeSt as a player at all. I'm very neutral. I just strongly dislike Flash, have for a while and these games cemented my image of him.


Oh
BW forever || Thall
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
January 07 2010 12:09 GMT
#1920
On January 07 2010 21:06 Roffles wrote:
I actually liked it when Flash cheesed all the time. At least he was exciting. Now all he does is turtle, turtle, turtle, abuse greedy builds, and then make tanks and win.
Where's the excitement in that?

I agree, pushing from two bases in every game is hardcore turtle terran.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
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