• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:29
CEST 22:29
KST 05:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon96Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?175Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game [ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5945 users

[MSL] Nate MSL Quarterfinals Day 2 - Page 96

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 94 95 96 97 98 108 Next
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 07 2010 12:03 GMT
#1901
On January 07 2010 21:01 MrHoon wrote:
I will translate what flash said about set 2 from Flash HIMSELF

Show nested quote +
" Match Point is a map where the only thing a terran player can do against a protoss player is defend. I was able to get 4 bases easily so my original plan was just to defend the recalls as much as possible, but when Best's macro started kicking in I started to get nervous. I knew the game was slanted towards me after a certain point, but even after that I was too scared to move out because of the previous attack done by BeSt. It wasn't my intentions to drag this game on for so long so I was disappointed with the game overrall. "


Thanks for that translation! Will you be doing the full interview soon too? :D
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 12:04:02
January 07 2010 12:03 GMT
#1902
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

Is it fun to watch when someone just rapes over and over and over? And he doesn't even have any flair or style. He just masses shit and attack moves, abuses maps, and makes tanks.

No it's not fun to watch as a viewer. It's like watching Oov back in his heydays when he just raped everything alive and everyone was like "This is gay".
God Bless
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 07 2010 12:03 GMT
#1903
On January 07 2010 21:03 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...


Entertainment.

I'm sorry flash can't fulfill your feeble ADHD mind
dats racist
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 07 2010 12:04 GMT
#1904
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

they want him to lose all the time, that way everything negative they say about him will be justified and the underdogs in the matches will carry the hero flag
@QxGDarkCell ._.
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 07 2010 12:04 GMT
#1905
THere are enough terran bonjwas. We don't want any more gay turtling, timing pushes or bunker rushes. :D
WWJDD??
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1906
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best PvT'er (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

What people want is more aggressive play from flash.

At first he was cheezing everyone

Then he was turtling.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1907
On January 07 2010 21:04 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

they want him to lose all the time, that way everything negative they say about him will be justified and the underdogs in the matches will carry the hero flag


Nah. Then people will just love him.
WWJDD??
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1908
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best PvT'er (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...


People just want action-packed games like Jaedong or Bisu, or players who show-off their talent / skill (Fantasy, Boxer, etc). They find it boring to watch some kid get to 200/200 (Old Flash, new Flash is closer to 96/105) then roll the other guy, without even looking phased. I don't understand what drives this hate for him other than blatant anti-fanboyism, or misguided expectations.
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#1909
On January 07 2010 21:03 KristianJS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 MrHoon wrote:
I will translate what flash said about set 2 from Flash HIMSELF

" Match Point is a map where the only thing a terran player can do against a protoss player is defend. I was able to get 4 bases easily so my original plan was just to defend the recalls as much as possible, but when Best's macro started kicking in I started to get nervous. I knew the game was slanted towards me after a certain point, but even after that I was too scared to move out because of the previous attack done by BeSt. It wasn't my intentions to drag this game on for so long so I was disappointed with the game overrall. "


Thanks for that translation! Will you be doing the full interview soon too? :D


so that is why....
shows u how much of a beast flash thinks best is
8==========))
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1910
I actually liked it when Flash cheesed all the time. At least he was exciting. Now all he does is turtle, turtle, turtle, abuse greedy builds, and then make tanks and win.
Where's the excitement in that?
God Bless
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1911
I don't understand the desire to see Kwanro to roll Flash. I would guess that Jaedong fans upset at the bunker rush on HBR would want Flash to make it to the finals for Jaedong to exact revenge, but I guess I don't have the mentality of most.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1912
On January 07 2010 21:03 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...


Entertainment.



I've said this before, but I'll say it again: epic, entertaining matches can only result from a situation where the players are doing everything in their power to win. If the players have some attitude about wanting to entertain rather than win then you can kiss any epicness goodbye and start watching wrestling instead.

The fact is that both players were trying really hard to win, and Flash played too good for Best to have much of a chance at making things entertaining. The end.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1913
On January 07 2010 21:03 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

Is it fun to watch when someone just rapes over and over and over? And he doesn't even have any flair or style. He just masses shit and attack moves, abuses maps, and makes tanks.

No it's not fun to watch as a viewer. It's like watching Oov back in his heydays when he just raped everything alive and everyone was like "This is gay".


Just curious, how else do you play your TvP?...

Uh yeah, I think I'll make 1 tank, maybe a handful of marines, put them all on low ground and put them on stop position.

Like, these players play to win... People say Flash sucks because he has no SL's under his belt, and now he's playing with solid mechanics and confidence and rolling everyone. Now that he is doing what people say he wasn't doing, people do a LoLuMaD. Yeah sure thing.
Graphics
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#1914
He has the most aggressive TvZ right now in the scene

What the hell do you people want?! Do you want flash to lose for your own entertainment?
dats racist
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 07 2010 12:07 GMT
#1915
On January 07 2010 20:58 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:50 endGame wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:47 Nevuk wrote:
Yay... Flash beat Best on 2 imba tvp maps. Congrats for him?


That is all.


Now not only SKT Protoss' will blame maps but also their fans? Nice to know :D



Thank you Flash & Best for kinda exciting series and thanks streamers for streaming


Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:52 7mk wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:51 dasanivan wrote:
during the interview flash said that he was worried because of best's unusually good macro even though he was at a huge advantage.

and he said he was disappointed that the game went on so long.

I think flash was only turtling so he would have a 100% chance to win instead of pushing and unexpectedly getting destroyed like he has been in the past by best.


yeah thats what I thought aswell

But doesn't like everyone know that you CAN'T be hasty with terran? They just use word turtle to flame because they hate Flash and when you do have someone you try to use any argument to offend him, right? In my mind turtling will always be something at like bnet 1v1 noobs lvl - you cover whole main with cannons to go to carriers or smth

EDIT: nvm, i see that not everyone knows the most obvious truth... Eg.
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:52 On_Slaught wrote:
(...)
As far as all the BM talk, I actually think it was more BM for Flash in game 2 to turtle after he had basically assured victory and decide to get nukes for some reason when he could of just walked over Best and ended the game 30min earlier with no chance of a loss.

I don't like SKT. I don't like them at all. Notice how in the bottom right of my post there's no team? Yeah, that's right. Actually, I don't like BeSt as a player at all. I'm very neutral. I just strongly dislike Flash, have for a while and these games cemented my image of him.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
January 07 2010 12:07 GMT
#1916
On January 07 2010 21:01 SilverskY wrote:
The thing that I don't understand is why do people hate Flash so much. He plays like a fuckin' monster, and he's the most humble person in real life. He has openly stated that he gets so much hate from the Korean retards already and asks for the fans' support, and people still hate on him because... why?

He 3-0's the world's probably best PvT'er (if not maybe only second to Stork) in 3 convincingly different fashions even in a late game macro war against the one person who presumably could and sometimes does macro better than Flash himself. And people complain about all 3 games. He rapes Stork with a stylish fashion in their last PL match. Like the fuck do people want?...

Well, actually its quite natural.
It happens in every sport actually. If one team wins so much, people will just hate that team, I think its in the natural of human want to support the weaker.
Like when I watch a football(soccer) match if my favourite not playing I will support the weaker team
Terran
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 07 2010 12:07 GMT
#1917
On January 07 2010 21:06 SilverskY wrote:
Just curious, how else do you play your TvP?...


Flash's marine rush against Bisu lol. But I totally agree with you.
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
January 07 2010 12:08 GMT
#1918
On January 07 2010 20:47 Ikonn wrote:
Best just browsing the internet now

+1111111111111111
Power is your Intelligence
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
January 07 2010 12:08 GMT
#1919
On January 07 2010 21:07 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:58 Kaniol wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:50 endGame wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:47 Nevuk wrote:
Yay... Flash beat Best on 2 imba tvp maps. Congrats for him?


That is all.


Now not only SKT Protoss' will blame maps but also their fans? Nice to know :D



Thank you Flash & Best for kinda exciting series and thanks streamers for streaming


On January 07 2010 20:52 7mk wrote:
On January 07 2010 20:51 dasanivan wrote:
during the interview flash said that he was worried because of best's unusually good macro even though he was at a huge advantage.

and he said he was disappointed that the game went on so long.

I think flash was only turtling so he would have a 100% chance to win instead of pushing and unexpectedly getting destroyed like he has been in the past by best.


yeah thats what I thought aswell

But doesn't like everyone know that you CAN'T be hasty with terran? They just use word turtle to flame because they hate Flash and when you do have someone you try to use any argument to offend him, right? In my mind turtling will always be something at like bnet 1v1 noobs lvl - you cover whole main with cannons to go to carriers or smth

EDIT: nvm, i see that not everyone knows the most obvious truth... Eg.
On January 07 2010 20:52 On_Slaught wrote:
(...)
As far as all the BM talk, I actually think it was more BM for Flash in game 2 to turtle after he had basically assured victory and decide to get nukes for some reason when he could of just walked over Best and ended the game 30min earlier with no chance of a loss.

I don't like SKT. I don't like them at all. Notice how in the bottom right of my post there's no team? Yeah, that's right. Actually, I don't like BeSt as a player at all. I'm very neutral. I just strongly dislike Flash, have for a while and these games cemented my image of him.


Oh
BW forever || Thall
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
January 07 2010 12:09 GMT
#1920
On January 07 2010 21:06 Roffles wrote:
I actually liked it when Flash cheesed all the time. At least he was exciting. Now all he does is turtle, turtle, turtle, abuse greedy builds, and then make tanks and win.
Where's the excitement in that?

I agree, pushing from two bases in every game is hardcore turtle terran.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Prev 1 94 95 96 97 98 108 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#63
RotterdaM1207
TaKeTV 405
TKL 404
IndyStarCraft 260
SteadfastSC194
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1207
TKL 404
IndyStarCraft 260
SteadfastSC 194
UpATreeSC 120
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3041
Mini 236
Soulkey 122
HiyA 59
910 37
firebathero 36
Trap 32
soO 24
Dota 2
monkeys_forever141
League of Legends
JimRising 326
Counter-Strike
fl0m1488
pashabiceps817
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu601
Other Games
FrodaN1251
Beastyqt737
XaKoH 516
mouzStarbuck480
shahzam340
ToD248
KnowMe199
Pyrionflax192
Railgan11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2261
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 175
• EnkiAlexander 52
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 46
• Eskiya23 13
• blackmanpl 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21548
League of Legends
• TFBlade1133
Other Games
• imaqtpie917
• Shiphtur155
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
13h 32m
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
14h 32m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 3h
The PondCast
1d 13h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
5 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.