EPT[OSL] EVER OSL Semi-Final B: Movie vs Shine - Page 78
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On January 08 2010 20:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote: how many times must flash prove how good he has been playing by raping people? ;x movie has a better chance at not being completely stomped like shine, but flash still has a free osl win. Yup Movie is going to get annihilated, and Movie shouldn't feel so bad if he does get annihilated because everyone else will be too. | ||
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Sigi
United States243 Posts
On January 08 2010 20:53 Jackal03 wrote: just for curiosity, how many players won in their first run on the osl? Garimto, Boxer, Nada, July, Anytime, Savior, and Jaedong. So 7 players. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
stork oh man stork, you coulda saved us from this wretched final | ||
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:00 Sigi wrote: Garimto, Boxer, Nada, July, Anytime, Savior, and Jaedong. So 7 players. thanks dude, hopefully movie can join the club! | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On January 08 2010 20:49 Chen wrote: Man, you alternate so hard between posting legit, well-thought out analysis and rabid fanboyism that im getting whiplash. that lost kitten line made me laugh and remember how hard Bisu raped him in proleague with a simple 2-gate. hahaha sorry fanboyism is really entertaining to me, but it's not what I actually think XD And yeah, that game was pretty hilarious. I think Shine, like many of this gen's mediocre zergs, basically take their refined ZvT mechanics and apply it to ZvP. Shine can get away with this by flipping coins and relying on good muta/scourge control. As we saw both in Stork v Shine Game 2 and Movie vs Shine series, the guy just doesn't have the mechanics to keep up when the game starts to spread into macro/defense/harass/big army fights. He was majorly behind on upgrades in every one of those games. Even the one where it was 4 base to 2. There was a point Movie had 0-0-2 while Shine had nothing. lol not one upgrade while being up 2 bases. I do have to say I was wrong though. Movie's game sense IS much better than Stork's, even though his mechanics are not at Stork's level. PvZ strikes me as a matchup where game sense is more important than in PvT because of how easily zerg denies scouting. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:00 Sigi wrote: Garimto, Boxer, Nada, July, Anytime, Savior, and Jaedong. So 7 players. I don't see Movie winning, Flash is just unreal right now. There is nothing Movie can do to beat Flash, unless Flash gets really sick and he isn't playing his best. | ||
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
Wish Stork was here to make things right. If he won, it would be the most epic games in the last couple of years. If he lost... the silversmith lives on. Really dont expect anything but 3-0 for Flash. | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 08 2010 20:47 StorkHwaiting wrote: I think it was that Movie was just as ultra aggressive. Really screwed Shine up because the veteran players considered him a newb and just focused on securing a macro advantage. ALL the players know Shine has a weak as piss late game. That's why most of the vets focused on trying to grab eco. They all thought, secure my third and this is over. The problem is shine's very good at abusing defensive players. As we saw today, Shine's a lost kitten when it comes to defending himself. well movie was aggressive, but the main point im trying to make is that he didnt get pushed into anything stupid trying to match the aggressiveness of shine. the best example of this was shine's only-muta against stork, when stork responded to the mass muta by massing dragoons. he got sucked into what the announcers described as a 기 싸움, loosely translated as "spirit fight", or when someone attempts to exert their 기 over the other even at the cost of sensibility. i think just keeping his composure, no doubt through the help of the "CJ Way", constitutes as good play when playing against Shine. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:03 HuskyTheHusky wrote: This is going to be painfully one sided. I must admit, I never expected Movie to get this far, but this OSL is in Flash's hands now. Wish Stork was here to make things right. If he won, it would be the most epic games in the last couple of years. If he lost... the silversmith lives on. Really dont expect anything but 3-0 for Flash. I wish i could disagree. Best lost 3-0 despite playing pretty damn well that series, and i think we can all agree that Best is alot better at PvT than Movie is. | ||
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On January 08 2010 20:35 Xxio wrote: + Show Spoiler + On January 08 2010 20:33 StorkHwaiting wrote: Love this picture so much. Get out of town!!! You denied us of a Movie vs Stork PVP Semis. AND a Flash vs Stork Finals. OSL could have been 10x more epic. Instead we got THIS shit!! So bitter. I agree, it's, uhm, too bad Stork wasn't good enough. Stork got owned by Flash in the Proleague. I'd rather have Movie vs. Flash anyways. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:09 Qwertify wrote: Stork got owned by Flash in the Proleague. I'd rather have Movie vs. Flash anyways. how quickly we forget that Stork beat Flash a few weeks before that game. 1-1 looks alot more promising than what we are about to get. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:08 Chen wrote: I wish i could disagree. Best lost 3-0 despite playing pretty damn well that series, and i think we can all agree that Best is alot better at PvT than Movie is. Well Movie does these unorthodox attacks that sometimes throw players off (see Movie vs Stork). Movie does that better than Best. Their PvT micro is about the same though. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:11 FireGuyX wrote: Well Movie does these unorthodox attacks that sometimes throws players off (see Movie vs Stork). Movie does that better than Best. Their PvT micro is about the same though. lol PvP is not PvT. There is not going to be much unorthodox play Movie can do that Flash hasn't seen a million times before. And I'm sorry, anyone who says Movie vs Flash is more exciting than Stork v Flash has to be nuts. Movie: 50% winrate Toss who's 0-1 lifetime vs Flash with good game sense and aggression, but sloppy mechanics Stork: 66% winrate Toss who's 11-9 vs Flash and have a history vs each other in 5 tournies now. Oh yeah, and Stork's a revolutionary PvT player with an absolutely impeccable understanding of the matchup. Yeah, Movie vs Flash is so much more interesting. Let's hope the underdog somehow comes up with a miracle to upset Flash versus Two of the Kings in their race with proven insane skill in the match up slugging it out for the 6th time in a tourney. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:17 FireGuyX wrote: Looking back at G4, I don't know what Shine was thinking setting up an expansion near Movie's base that was defenseless. Shine's incredible game sense led him to believe that 1 walled off sunken with 6 lings and a shitton of drones would be more than sufficient to protect the base from whatever movie could throw at him. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:17 StorkHwaiting wrote: lol PvP is not PvT. There is not going to be much unorthodox play Movie can do that Flash hasn't seen a million times before. And I'm sorry, anyone who says Movie vs Flash is more exciting than Stork v Flash has to be nuts. Movie: 50% winrate Toss who's 0-1 lifetime vs Flash with good game sense and aggression, but sloppy mechanics Stork: 66% winrate Toss who's 11-9 vs Flash and have a history vs each other in 5 tournies now. Oh yeah, and Stork's a revolutionary PvT player with an absolutely impeccable understanding of the matchup. Yeah, Movie vs Flash is so much more interesting. Let's hope the underdog somehow comes up with a miracle to upset Flash versus Two of the Kings in their race with proven insane skill in the match up slugging it out for the 6th time in a tourney. Well Movie is known for his unorthodox play and he has shown that against Terran players. He can cheese pretty good too (see Movie vs go.go). | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
 Really to help him practice (because who else is he going to ask to help him practice PvT these days?) some stupid shit to pull in Sets 1 & 5 thanks to Heartbreak Ridge, and then pray that he can win one of the other games as well.If Flash wins Set 1, then you may as well close the stream because a 3-0 is coming. | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:17 StorkHwaiting wrote: lol PvP is not PvT. There is not going to be much unorthodox play Movie can do that Flash hasn't seen a million times before. And I'm sorry, anyone who says Movie vs Flash is more exciting than Stork v Flash has to be nuts. Movie: 50% winrate Toss who's 0-1 lifetime vs Flash with good game sense and aggression, but sloppy mechanics Stork: 66% winrate Toss who's 11-9 vs Flash and have a history vs each other in 5 tournies now. Oh yeah, and Stork's a revolutionary PvT player with an absolutely impeccable understanding of the matchup. Yeah, Movie vs Flash is so much more interesting. Let's hope the underdog somehow comes up with a miracle to upset Flash versus Two of the Kings in their race with proven insane skill in the match up slugging it out for the 6th time in a tourney. the one thing that would've made this more exciting than anything else is the would-be OSL Finals rematch 2 years later, in these times when everybody is about as good as anybody else, where Stork would've had an opportunity to get revenge for his crushing loss. Stork's defeat at the hands of Flash 2 years ago is arguably the most bitter silver that he ever recieved. Too bad the revenge ain't taking place. =( | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:23 Hinanawi wrote: Movie's best chance is to beg Really to help him practice (because who else is he going to ask to help him practice PvT these days?) some stupid shit to pull in Sets 1 & 5 thanks to Heartbreak Ridge, and then pray that he can win one of the other games as well.If Flash wins Set 1, then you may as well close the stream because a 3-0 is coming. It's New HBR. Not the old one. | ||
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