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On January 08 2010 20:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
how many times must flash prove how good he has been playing by raping people? ;x movie has a better chance at not being completely stomped like shine, but flash still has a free osl win.
Ah I see, so were saying flash is not great because...
we give movie a chance to win?
I love flash and I'm well aware of how far ahead he is of anyone else, that doesnt mean that he cant be beaten in an upset.
edit: FUCK I missed my own 2000th post
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 08 2010 20:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
how many times must flash prove how good he has been playing by raping people? ;x movie has a better chance at not being completely stomped like shine, but flash still has a free osl win.
Last time someone said this, some newbie Protoss player came in and 3-0'd the bonjwa of the era.
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On January 08 2010 21:25 Ikonn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 21:23 Hinanawi wrote:Movie's best chance is to beg  Really to help him practice (because who else is he going to ask to help him practice PvT these days?) some stupid shit to pull in Sets 1 & 5 thanks to Heartbreak Ridge, and then pray that he can win one of the other games as well. If Flash wins Set 1, then you may as well close the stream because a 3-0 is coming. It's New HBR. Not the old one.
New HBR still looks super gay for PvT, but I'm just a D+ noob so what do I know? I think IdrA is lurking right now, maybe he can fill us in on how New HBR's PvT balance is (in practice, etc.)
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On January 08 2010 20:54 .risingdragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 20:48 ArvickHero wrote:On January 08 2010 20:45 Womwomwom wrote:On January 08 2010 20:43 FireGuyX wrote:On January 08 2010 20:39 writer22816 wrote:On January 08 2010 20:37 FireGuyX wrote:
Movie's PvT isn't bad, if it was he wouldn't have beaten Light. He lost to UpMagic because of the map, his natural right close to an attack from a siege tank, and that's more of map terrain favoring Terran over Protoss.
No. Just no. No about what? Did you see Movie vs UpMagic, he was behind economically early because the natural was right next to an attack from a siege tank, which UpMagic took advantage of. I don't think his PvT is bad at all, not up to par with his PvZ yet. He has shown plenty of potential to excel in both PvT and PvP. He lost to players like Canata, Really, and UpMagic who have good PvT. What we saw in Movie vs Upmagic was Upmagic nearly throwing the game away because of awful army positioning and composition (lone tanks don't win against mass zealots). Lucky for Upmagic, he's experienced enough to stop the damage done and use the advantage he initially had to push himself back into the game. I'm pretty sure that Movie would've won the game if he wasn't put so far behind w/ all that early game harass lol QFStupid I'm pretty sure that anyone would've won if he didn't take damage from the other guy!!!!!!!!!!!! No damage FTW!! Can't damage this!!!!
hahahaha epic fucking post
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On January 08 2010 21:02 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 21:00 Sigi wrote:On January 08 2010 20:53 Jackal03 wrote:
just for curiosity, how many players won in their first run on the osl? Garimto, Boxer, Nada, July, Anytime, Savior, and Jaedong. So 7 players. I don't see Movie winning, Flash is just unreal right now. There is nothing Movie can do to beat Flash, unless Flash gets really sick and he isn't playing his best.
Looks, liek Movie will have to make special preparations if he is going to have any chance this OSL.
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On January 08 2010 21:28 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 20:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
how many times must flash prove how good he has been playing by raping people? ;x movie has a better chance at not being completely stomped like shine, but flash still has a free osl win. Last time someone said this, some newbie Protoss player came in and 3-0'd the bonjwa of the era.
I was thinking the same thing this whole time. I'm not sure if Movie will even be as good as Bisu in total, but I think that Movie has what it takes to beat Flash. That meaning that he has good enough micro, game sense, to keep up with him in game. In terms of preparations, I also think that he can come up with some solid strategies.
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On January 08 2010 21:28 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 20:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
how many times must flash prove how good he has been playing by raping people? ;x movie has a better chance at not being completely stomped like shine, but flash still has a free osl win. Last time someone said this, some newbie Protoss player came in and 3-0'd the bonjwa of the era.
Roffles you say a lot of dumb stuff in this thread....
I mean yeah it happened once, that's great - you just want to see great players lose fine. It's just funny because you keep trying to mask it with BS like "I just want to see a Protoss win" or whatever.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - yours is that you don't want to see a great player be dominant, and yeah you've admitted it. But in every other post you just spew nonsense.
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FUCK YEA MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm a saad sad panda... Shine.. 
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On January 08 2010 21:23 blue_arrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 21:17 StorkHwaiting wrote:On January 08 2010 21:11 FireGuyX wrote:On January 08 2010 21:08 Chen wrote:On January 08 2010 21:03 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
This is going to be painfully one sided. I must admit, I never expected Movie to get this far, but this OSL is in Flash's hands now.
Wish Stork was here to make things right. If he won, it would be the most epic games in the last couple of years. If he lost... the silversmith lives on.
Really dont expect anything but 3-0 for Flash. I wish i could disagree. Best lost 3-0 despite playing pretty damn well that series, and i think we can all agree that Best is alot better at PvT than Movie is. Well Movie does these unorthodox attacks that sometimes throws players off (see Movie vs Stork). Movie does that better than Best. Their PvT micro is about the same though. lol PvP is not PvT. There is not going to be much unorthodox play Movie can do that Flash hasn't seen a million times before. And I'm sorry, anyone who says Movie vs Flash is more exciting than Stork v Flash has to be nuts. Movie: 50% winrate Toss who's 0-1 lifetime vs Flash with good game sense and aggression, but sloppy mechanics Stork: 66% winrate Toss who's 11-9 vs Flash and have a history vs each other in 5 tournies now. Oh yeah, and Stork's a revolutionary PvT player with an absolutely impeccable understanding of the matchup. Yeah, Movie vs Flash is so much more interesting. Let's hope the underdog somehow comes up with a miracle to upset Flash versus Two of the Kings in their race with proven insane skill in the match up slugging it out for the 6th time in a tourney. the one thing that would've made this more exciting than anything else is the would-be OSL Finals rematch 2 years later, in these times when everybody is about as good as anybody else, where Stork would've had an opportunity to get revenge for his crushing loss. Stork's defeat at the hands of Flash 2 years ago is arguably the most bitter silver that he ever recieved. Too bad the revenge ain't taking place. =(
Yeah I totally agree. Stork was crushed after that loss. First time he went into a serious slump. I think it hit him extra hard because it came right on the heels of losing the GomTV Invitational. So he had TWO chances to beat Flash. A guy he'd raped before horribly. And then he just got crushed. It was super painful to watch as a Stork fan.
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On January 08 2010 21:11 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 21:08 Chen wrote:On January 08 2010 21:03 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
This is going to be painfully one sided. I must admit, I never expected Movie to get this far, but this OSL is in Flash's hands now.
Wish Stork was here to make things right. If he won, it would be the most epic games in the last couple of years. If he lost... the silversmith lives on.
Really dont expect anything but 3-0 for Flash. I wish i could disagree. Best lost 3-0 despite playing pretty damn well that series, and i think we can all agree that Best is alot better at PvT than Movie is. Well Movie does these unorthodox attacks that sometimes throw players off (see Movie vs Stork). Movie does that better than Best. Their PvT micro is about the same though.
The problem is that unlike shine, Flash is a turtle master... You have to do something really really unorthodox to throw Flash off. Furthermore, unlike best, movies macro is just not up to par have him stand I chance at late game. So if I have to guess, I would say most game will revolved around flash slowly macroing up while movie trying everything he can to tear it down. I can see him win a game or two at most, but I really don't see how Movie can take this series from Flash.
Still, I am rooting for Movie to win just so I can see how it feels like to have half the the SC fans in the world drop to their knee and cry like a baby.
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wow, esp game 2, movie was 1 step ahead of Shine the whole time. Really impressive.
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is awesome32278 Posts
Omg awesome news to wake up to!!!
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On January 08 2010 22:21 IntoTheWow wrote:
Omg awesome news to wake up to!!!
same!!! 
im so glad shine got raped!!!!
Movie's gotta prepare a crapload now vs Flash
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On January 08 2010 22:18 Yamoth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 21:11 FireGuyX wrote:On January 08 2010 21:08 Chen wrote:On January 08 2010 21:03 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
This is going to be painfully one sided. I must admit, I never expected Movie to get this far, but this OSL is in Flash's hands now.
Wish Stork was here to make things right. If he won, it would be the most epic games in the last couple of years. If he lost... the silversmith lives on.
Really dont expect anything but 3-0 for Flash. I wish i could disagree. Best lost 3-0 despite playing pretty damn well that series, and i think we can all agree that Best is alot better at PvT than Movie is. Well Movie does these unorthodox attacks that sometimes throw players off (see Movie vs Stork). Movie does that better than Best. Their PvT micro is about the same though. The problem is that unlike shine, Flash is a turtle master... You have to do something really really unorthodox to throw Flash off. Furthermore, unlike best, movies macro is just not up to par have him stand I chance at late game. So if I have to guess, I would say most game will revolved around flash slowly macroing up while movie trying everything he can to tear it down. I can see him win a game or two at most, but I really don't see how Movie can take this series from Flash. Still, I am rooting for Movie to win just so I can see how it feels like to have half the the SC fans in the world drop to their knee and cry like a baby.
Movie's decently well respected. He's been in PL and done some things before, so I don't think anyone would be TOO crazy heartbroken over it. It's nothing like Shine. I'm by no means a Movie fan, but I don't dislike him like I do Shine. Nor would I have been anywhere near as angry if Stork had lost to Movie instead of Shine. Shine's gameplay has such obvious weaknesses, it's just maddening to see him make it as far as he did. Movie, while sloppy at times, is still rather solid.
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oh ... my ... GOOOOOD !!!
Movie !!! :D wooow , im so happy right now ! xD i have to see those games !
Jin Young HwAITIIIING !!!! :D
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 08 2010 21:48 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 21:28 Roffles wrote:On January 08 2010 20:58 xDark.Carnivalx wrote:
how many times must flash prove how good he has been playing by raping people? ;x movie has a better chance at not being completely stomped like shine, but flash still has a free osl win. Last time someone said this, some newbie Protoss player came in and 3-0'd the bonjwa of the era. Roffles you say a lot of dumb stuff in this thread.... I mean yeah it happened once, that's great - you just want to see great players lose fine. It's just funny because you keep trying to mask it with BS like "I just want to see a Protoss win" or whatever. Everyone is entitled to their opinion - yours is that you don't want to see a great player be dominant, and yeah you've admitted it. But in every other post you just spew nonsense.
Flash/Bisu/JD fanboys are the best. Can't even take a little hate/criticism.
What's wrong with me wanting players like Flash to lose? Can't I cheer for Movie? What's wrong with that? Can't even root for an underdog anymore.
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
great games, PvZ is truly the best!
im glad Movie advanced he might have more chances against Flash, maybe even take a game or two!
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This's Flash, the master of turtling:
But fear not, Toss fans!! 'Cause Movie's power level is over 9,000!! He's like Goku, who'll simply get much stronger and squash seemingly all-powerful baddies who dare to get in his way.
I expect an epic 3 - 1 upset by Movie.
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On January 08 2010 20:56 Hinanawi wrote:
WTF, how did Heartbreak Ridge become the map for Sets 1 and 5? Did Flash get to thumb down a map? If so, which one did he thumb down?
HBR twice is basically giving Movie a chance to win...not that I think he will anyways, but still, ugh.
actually a new HBR TvP near 50%
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