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ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
December 31 2009 12:25 GMT
#1001
On a side note, someone give me the name of a good font for these banners. Normally I just look up "Techno Font" and browse till i find one I like >.<
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
December 31 2009 12:28 GMT
#1002
LR thread is fine.. everyone has access to streams now. I agree that maybe the posting can be cleaned up but it's not a huge deal imo
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 31 2009 12:35 GMT
#1003
A few times I wasn't able to watch games live and the vods where not there. So I read LR thread and I got a good feeling what was going on. I don't see any problem with live reporting.

And I agree, hard to expect a deep analysis when you're watching game and typing at the same time. One-liners are often really enough. They actualy make LR really exciting to read
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 31 2009 12:48 GMT
#1004
On December 31 2009 20:56 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 20:52 MasterReY wrote:
i dunno whats ur guys problem.

Imho the livereport is the best if there are many small lines like

Best sends out probe to 7
lololol ninja expo?
probes makes nexus !!!!!
flash going out with 3 tanks
vults scouting map
best only 6 goons vs 3 tanks and couple vults
thats not enough OMG
best wtf
flash will rape his nat
flash moving in!!!!
MINES
OMFG ZEAL DROOOP
zealbomb kills 2 tanks with mines
bests units die anyway
1 tank and 5 vultures left
4 facts pumping more units
reinforments will kill nexus
best adding gates but its too late

LRs like this give u the feeling that ur really inside the game and u can feel the excitement of the game. you get a detailed report of the game.
This action-packed reporting with refreshing the page every 5 seconds in hope there is a new line is the best thing of the LR.



YES EXACTLY!

the problem is that it is done so badly or carelessly now that it isn't readable to feel the game.


Some of the lines like best wtf and MINES are clearly +1 postcount spammers. Others with better game description like best adding gates but its too late seems fine.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
SayGG
Profile Joined January 2006
Germany676 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 12:49:21
December 31 2009 12:48 GMT
#1005
First three games are up on wf2010 account on youku (http://u.youku.com/wf2010). Still eagerly waiting for Flashs game...

Edit: Nvm, now also the last game is up.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 31 2009 12:52 GMT
#1006
I don't have a problem with the LR threads...most of the time it is quite good. If I'm dissatisfied I'll just watch the VOD later...it's not the LRer's fault that I can't watch the stream...
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 31 2009 13:20 GMT
#1007
Who needs siege mode? Not me, I play z.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
December 31 2009 13:44 GMT
#1008
fuck no Kwanro ;<
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 31 2009 15:09 GMT
#1009
Best, please stick to 2 base arbiters.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
December 31 2009 16:02 GMT
#1010
Lol, read the results and I was like, wtf Kwanro? Then I read the recommended games and I was like ohhh, short game? All-inish rush? That makes more sense.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 31 2009 16:40 GMT
#1011
On December 31 2009 20:43 MrHoon wrote:
Just read Flash's interview

Flash said he predicted that BeSt would use this build
And while studying TvP, he found out that players like Stork and Bisu tend to play incredibly different and come incredibly prepared than usual when they play against him.

This indicates to me that Flash won the mind-game for this game before it started.

I have no idea what Best was thinking. Yes his build was tailored to "normal Flash play", but he should have known that Flash never plays normal against him--every time Flash and Best have played in the past, Flash has paid the price for being overly aggressive. Best should have known going into the game that he was going to see an early push, and should have set up a defensive posture for it, without getting too greedy.

Basically, Best had the psychological advantage and he threw it away.
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
December 31 2009 16:44 GMT
#1012
oh god kwanro and flash won
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
December 31 2009 17:23 GMT
#1013
On January 01 2010 01:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 20:43 MrHoon wrote:
Just read Flash's interview

Flash said he predicted that BeSt would use this build
And while studying TvP, he found out that players like Stork and Bisu tend to play incredibly different and come incredibly prepared than usual when they play against him.

This indicates to me that Flash won the mind-game for this game before it started.

I have no idea what Best was thinking. Yes his build was tailored to "normal Flash play", but he should have known that Flash never plays normal against him--every time Flash and Best have played in the past, Flash has paid the price for being overly aggressive. Best should have known going into the game that he was going to see an early push, and should have set up a defensive posture for it, without getting too greedy.

Basically, Best had the psychological advantage and he threw it away.

Yes
And now it has come to an end
And....probably....end of series

Power is your Intelligence
mylife4iron
Profile Joined May 2009
United States33 Posts
December 31 2009 17:33 GMT
#1014
On December 31 2009 20:17 SilverskY wrote:
All those haters who said Flash's TvP is "weak" ...

I lol at you.

He's no weakie (66% lifetime is very good), but as several posters have pointed out, the dragons in particular have given him trouble. No matter now, as he finally knocked off Best. Congratulations to our latest dragon slayer...that ruler must be the magic sword.
Fart
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 18:40:44
December 31 2009 18:40 GMT
#1015
On January 01 2010 01:40 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 20:43 MrHoon wrote:
Just read Flash's interview

Flash said he predicted that BeSt would use this build
And while studying TvP, he found out that players like Stork and Bisu tend to play incredibly different and come incredibly prepared than usual when they play against him.

This indicates to me that Flash won the mind-game for this game before it started.

I have no idea what Best was thinking. Yes his build was tailored to "normal Flash play", but he should have known that Flash never plays normal against him--every time Flash and Best have played in the past, Flash has paid the price for being overly aggressive. Best should have known going into the game that he was going to see an early push, and should have set up a defensive posture for it, without getting too greedy.

Basically, Best had the psychological advantage and he threw it away.


Yes. Oddly enough it should have been Best with the mental advantage. Instead he deviated from winning builds.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 31 2009 18:47 GMT
#1016
On January 01 2010 02:33 mylife4iron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2009 20:17 SilverskY wrote:
All those haters who said Flash's TvP is "weak" ...

I lol at you.

He's no weakie (66% lifetime is very good), but as several posters have pointed out, the dragons in particular have given him trouble. No matter now, as he finally knocked off Best. Congratulations to our latest dragon slayer...that ruler must be the magic sword.


I'd chock that up more to Flash only ever got to play the dragons on really hard maps, TvPwise. Most of them on Destination, HBR or Medusa. He honestly should've won more of them but when you're playing an excellent protoss on one of those three, then you've already got your work cut out for you.
Remember Violet.
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States649 Posts
December 31 2009 20:08 GMT
#1017
How is Hwasin going to win the MSL if he's already down 0-1 vs Kal?
Clearly he'll win 2-1, and still win the finals when he gets to them, but the only real way to win the MSL is by going completely undefeated. :\
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
December 31 2009 20:17 GMT
#1018
On January 01 2010 05:08 Sunny Afternoon wrote:
How is Hwasin going to win the MSL if he's already down 0-1 vs Kal?
Clearly he'll win 2-1, and still win the finals when he gets to them, but the only real way to win the MSL is by going completely undefeated. :\

each series is bo5
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
December 31 2009 21:42 GMT
#1019
guys i desperately wanna watch this games. please some one give me a link! please please pleaseeeeeeeee
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-31 22:41:06
December 31 2009 22:39 GMT
#1020
I was going to make a Strat Forum thread but since this is a small question I figure this is a good place as any to ask:

+ Show Spoiler +
As we saw in Hwasin vs Kal, Hwasin made a horrible decision in attacking a huge army of goons with a not so huge army of unsieged tanks.


Now I've seen this whole unsieged tanks deal quite a few times in pro TvP and I'm wondering why exactly the pros do this. What is going through their heads? I have a few guesses but I'm not totally sure:

-Unsieged tanks can retreat from zealots.
-Unsieged tanks can gain ground more quickly and are great for early game aggression since low toss numbers = less splash damage from siege. See TurN vs Bisu.
-Unsieged tanks' single target DPS is only slightly lower than that of sieged tanks (see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=All&topic_id=28699 ), thus making them favored in circumstances where they'll need to chase or face spread out units.
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