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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 25 2009 10:30 GMT
#1041
On December 25 2009 19:29 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:25 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:21 VioleTAK wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:12 FabledIntegral wrote:
What the hell are people saying Flash isn't going to be respected, blah blah. You HAVE to cheese occasionally to be a good player. Because then you become UNPREDICTABLE to all future opponents. It keeps the opponent guessing, etc. I would say if Flash doesn't bunker rush occasionally he's actually a bad terran in the terms of mindgames.

Flash is not going to lose fans respect here, but he damn well knows he's disappointed many viewers today. And the angry feeback is to be expected, and its ok. I'm really disappointed! I was hoping for Flash to win in game 3, after two incredible games. What can I say, JD-Flash bring me hope of the best possible Broodwar action in the world, that can not be shown by anyone else right now.
So yes, I'm upset, after seeing the massive crowd, hearing the mega cheers, reading the double 9-1 epic stats, feeling the pressure, hoping for glory, and getting cheesed.
You know, in Boxer's interview after the triple bunker rush, he said he knew he'd take heavy critisism and basically get bashed for it. He made a sacrifice in that series, believe it or not. But I feel Flash was nowhere near doing the same thing here... This won't be some epic memorable matchup for the ages. It was just a very disappointing series.

Did you see last weeks games? how can you hope for awsome SC when you saw JD get utterly raped in 15 mins, the same thing would have happened this week, flash just halved the time it took

Bisu v. Jaedong Bo5. Please respond.

flash's tvz has been literally raping every top zerg. was bisu doing the same thing with his pvz? nope. assumptions about what would have happened in second game flash vs jd are based on more than just game 1. everybody knows flash has been on fire and seemingly unstoppable tvz. same cannot be said for bisu. of course jaedong could have won but flash was the *overwhelming*, clear favorite going into the second set.

I'm pointing out that assuming Jaedong would've gotten raped just like the last game, no contest, after one week of practice, is illogical. Flash is the favorite, but you can't just say he would've for sure won.
Jaedong
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
December 25 2009 10:30 GMT
#1042
It's time for Movie to end Zero.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 25 2009 10:30 GMT
#1043
On December 25 2009 19:28 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Calm cheesed Pure twice, fuckin newb

1: 2 hatch muta =/= cheese.
2: Doing an aggressive build after you have been cheesed (Pure's cannon rush in game 1 ring any bells?) makes a lot of sense and is not bitchworthy.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
December 25 2009 10:30 GMT
#1044
If there was a zerg who should be cheesed it would be calm, gay him before he gays you, because he WILL gay you.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2009 10:30 GMT
#1045
IRON RIBU
porridge
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada9 Posts
December 25 2009 10:30 GMT
#1046
Merry Christmas?

No Flash, you ruined Christmas :[[
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1047
If just Pure got his main's canons a bit earlier, I believe he would've been able to defend. Knowing that Calm is a pretty aggressive player, he should've known better I guess. I was rooting for Pure, but tough luck
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1048
On December 25 2009 19:30 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:28 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Calm cheesed Pure twice, fuckin newb

1: 2 hatch muta =/= cheese.
2: Doing an aggressive build after you have been cheesed (Pure's cannon rush in game 1 ring any bells?) makes a lot of sense and is not bitchworthy.


learn to recognize sarcasm
Jee-Host
Profile Joined December 2008
Russian Federation158 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1049
Only Stork can stop Flash now. Hope Shine at least won't cheese.
Stork[gm] is the one...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1050
On December 25 2009 19:29 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:25 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:21 VioleTAK wrote:
On December 25 2009 19:12 FabledIntegral wrote:
What the hell are people saying Flash isn't going to be respected, blah blah. You HAVE to cheese occasionally to be a good player. Because then you become UNPREDICTABLE to all future opponents. It keeps the opponent guessing, etc. I would say if Flash doesn't bunker rush occasionally he's actually a bad terran in the terms of mindgames.

Flash is not going to lose fans respect here, but he damn well knows he's disappointed many viewers today. And the angry feeback is to be expected, and its ok. I'm really disappointed! I was hoping for Flash to win in game 3, after two incredible games. What can I say, JD-Flash bring me hope of the best possible Broodwar action in the world, that can not be shown by anyone else right now.
So yes, I'm upset, after seeing the massive crowd, hearing the mega cheers, reading the double 9-1 epic stats, feeling the pressure, hoping for glory, and getting cheesed.
You know, in Boxer's interview after the triple bunker rush, he said he knew he'd take heavy critisism and basically get bashed for it. He made a sacrifice in that series, believe it or not. But I feel Flash was nowhere near doing the same thing here... This won't be some epic memorable matchup for the ages. It was just a very disappointing series.

Did you see last weeks games? how can you hope for awsome SC when you saw JD get utterly raped in 15 mins, the same thing would have happened this week, flash just halved the time it took

Bisu v. Jaedong Bo5. Please respond.

flash's tvz has been literally raping every top zerg. was bisu doing the same thing with his pvz? nope. assumptions about what would have happened in second game flash vs jd are based on more than just game 1. everybody knows flash has been on fire and seemingly unstoppable tvz. same cannot be said for bisu. of course jaedong could have won but flash was the *overwhelming*, clear favorite going into the second set.


lol!
Dont you remember at what time that match was? Bisu was #1 everywhere, people started Bisu bonjwas debates again.

Bisu hit his elo peak in that series. Bisu > everyone, JD was a huge underdog.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1051
Not to mention that if the Jaedong/Fantasy OSL final had been a Bo3 like this, then people would have been saying how Fantasy is wayyy better than Jaedong because it would have been 2-0 rape. Instead JD turned it around to 3-2 and roflstomped Fantasy. Anything can happen.

TBH I always thought that Flash would be a much better player if he mixed his style up a bit. Too bad I really want to see him lose, mostly because I really really don't want to see another Terran bonjwa. They've had enough already. Time for more Zerg or a Protoss if there is to be another bonjwa.
Creator of LoLTool.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1052
Poor Pure. 2 games in a row he dies to Calm's 2-hatch muta (kinda) and has to watch his main die
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1053

On December 25 2009 19:28 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:27 Chen wrote:
I want to hear the Zerg and Jaedong fanboys defend this.


Pure's fault for not scouting it.

hahahahahah
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1054
On December 25 2009 19:30 mog87 wrote:
If there was a zerg who should be cheesed it would be calm, gay him before he gays you, because he WILL gay you.


Did you not watch Pure vs. Calm game 1?
TranslatorBaa!
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 25 2009 10:31 GMT
#1055
On December 25 2009 19:30 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:28 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Calm cheesed Pure twice, fuckin newb

1: 2 hatch muta =/= cheese.
2: Doing an aggressive build after you have been cheesed (Pure's cannon rush in game 1 ring any bells?) makes a lot of sense and is not bitchworthy.

How about tech before expand, with no drones on minerals at the expansion? That was the basic definition of all-in right there.
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
December 25 2009 10:32 GMT
#1056
guys...im serious here...
if Movie loses 2 games in a row...this will be officially the worst night of progaming, in terms of quality of games...please Movie <3 win and make TL happy!
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
December 25 2009 10:32 GMT
#1057
On December 25 2009 19:30 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 19:28 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Calm cheesed Pure twice, fuckin newb

1: 2 hatch muta =/= cheese.
2: Doing an aggressive build after you have been cheesed (Pure's cannon rush in game 1 ring any bells?) makes a lot of sense and is not bitchworthy.

Romanian?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
December 25 2009 10:32 GMT
#1058
On December 25 2009 19:31 Goragoth wrote:
Not to mention that if the Jaedong/Fantasy OSL final had been a Bo3 like this, then people would have been saying how Fantasy is wayyy better than Jaedong because it would have been 2-0 rape. Instead JD turned it around to 3-2 and roflstomped Fantasy. Anything can happen.

TBH I always thought that Flash would be a much better player if he mixed his style up a bit. Too bad I really want to see him lose, mostly because I really really don't want to see another Terran bonjwa. They've had enough already. Time for more Zerg or a Protoss if there is to be another bonjwa.


Flash can use marines and medics well, so with flash up 2-0, jaedong wont be making a comeback unless the next maps are like raid assault, neo requiem, and battle royale.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 25 2009 10:32 GMT
#1059
On December 25 2009 19:31 Goragoth wrote:
Not to mention that if the Jaedong/Fantasy OSL final had been a Bo3 like this, then people would have been saying how Fantasy is wayyy better than Jaedong because it would have been 2-0 rape. Instead JD turned it around to 3-2 and roflstomped Fantasy. Anything can happen.

TBH I always thought that Flash would be a much better player if he mixed his style up a bit. Too bad I really want to see him lose, mostly because I really really don't want to see another Terran bonjwa. They've had enough already. Time for more Zerg or a Protoss if there is to be another bonjwa.


fantasy was no where as good as Flash is now
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
December 25 2009 10:32 GMT
#1060
On December 25 2009 19:32 UGC4 wrote:
guys...im serious here...
if Movie loses 2 games in a row...this will be officially the worst night of progaming, in terms of quality of games...please Movie <3 win and make TL happy!


Zero > Movie who the fuck cares about Movie?

Prince of Queens fighting!
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