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On December 25 2009 19:32 UGC4 wrote:
guys...im serious here...
if Movie loses 2 games in a row...this will be officially the worst night of progaming, in terms of quality of games...please Movie <3 win and make TL happy!
Well it's a possibility.
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I was obviously joking in my first post, but i disagree that calm's build wasn't cheese. If he fails to kill the main he is dead
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If I could find that post again, I'd quote it, but it went something like this:
TL: omg nr 20 noob 
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On December 25 2009 19:31 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:28 Megalisk wrote:On December 25 2009 19:27 Chen wrote:
I want to hear the Zerg and Jaedong fanboys defend this. Pure's fault for not scouting it. hahahahahah
You just gotta cloak a scouting probe with an arbiter, ez scouting.
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On December 25 2009 19:31 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:29 OneOther wrote:On December 25 2009 19:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 25 2009 19:25 Scaramanga wrote:On December 25 2009 19:21 VioleTAK wrote:On December 25 2009 19:12 FabledIntegral wrote:
What the hell are people saying Flash isn't going to be respected, blah blah. You HAVE to cheese occasionally to be a good player. Because then you become UNPREDICTABLE to all future opponents. It keeps the opponent guessing, etc. I would say if Flash doesn't bunker rush occasionally he's actually a bad terran in the terms of mindgames. Flash is not going to lose fans respect here, but he damn well knows he's disappointed many viewers today. And the angry feeback is to be expected, and its ok. I'm really disappointed! I was hoping for Flash to win in game 3, after two incredible games. What can I say, JD-Flash bring me hope of the best possible Broodwar action in the world, that can not be shown by anyone else right now. So yes, I'm upset, after seeing the massive crowd, hearing the mega cheers, reading the double 9-1 epic stats, feeling the pressure, hoping for glory, and getting cheesed. You know, in Boxer's interview after the triple bunker rush, he said he knew he'd take heavy critisism and basically get bashed for it. He made a sacrifice in that series, believe it or not. But I feel Flash was nowhere near doing the same thing here... This won't be some epic memorable matchup for the ages. It was just a very disappointing series. Did you see last weeks games? how can you hope for awsome SC when you saw JD get utterly raped in 15 mins, the same thing would have happened this week, flash just halved the time it took Bisu v. Jaedong Bo5. Please respond. flash's tvz has been literally raping every top zerg. was bisu doing the same thing with his pvz? nope. assumptions about what would have happened in second game flash vs jd are based on more than just game 1. everybody knows flash has been on fire and seemingly unstoppable tvz. same cannot be said for bisu. of course jaedong could have won but flash was the *overwhelming*, clear favorite going into the second set. lol! Dont you remember at what time that match was? Bisu was #1 everywhere, people started Bisu bonjwas debates again. Bisu hit his elo peak in that series. Bisu > everyone, JD was a huge underdog.
No, from what I remember most people thought it 50-50. And he is talking about PvZ, not Bisu's overall record.
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On December 25 2009 19:30 lone_hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:28 Megalisk wrote:On December 25 2009 19:27 Chen wrote:
I want to hear the Zerg and Jaedong fanboys defend this. Pure's fault for not scouting it. i hope for gods sake ur joking
*romanian detected*
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So the only time Flash actually 'cheeses' in recent memory, when up a game in a bo3, and his play style usually one of epic proportions in terms of micro macro and strategy, warrants all this flaming?
So, so sorry everybody who was having a wonderful Christmas Eve only to stay up for a brutal reminder that our favorite players don't throw games or ever go easy on each other. Lee Young Ho is the atrium of the heart of starcraft and is allowed to give HIMSELF the nice Xmas gift of getting off work early after raping the #1 zerg in the world in <5 minutes. To be honest I think Flash could have failed at the attempt and played on, which is more than a lot of zergs can say in terms of all-in play.
Flash fighting.
And oh, go Calm, Zero, and Stork
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On December 25 2009 19:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:25 Scaramanga wrote:On December 25 2009 19:21 VioleTAK wrote:On December 25 2009 19:12 FabledIntegral wrote:
What the hell are people saying Flash isn't going to be respected, blah blah. You HAVE to cheese occasionally to be a good player. Because then you become UNPREDICTABLE to all future opponents. It keeps the opponent guessing, etc. I would say if Flash doesn't bunker rush occasionally he's actually a bad terran in the terms of mindgames. Flash is not going to lose fans respect here, but he damn well knows he's disappointed many viewers today. And the angry feeback is to be expected, and its ok. I'm really disappointed! I was hoping for Flash to win in game 3, after two incredible games. What can I say, JD-Flash bring me hope of the best possible Broodwar action in the world, that can not be shown by anyone else right now. So yes, I'm upset, after seeing the massive crowd, hearing the mega cheers, reading the double 9-1 epic stats, feeling the pressure, hoping for glory, and getting cheesed. You know, in Boxer's interview after the triple bunker rush, he said he knew he'd take heavy critisism and basically get bashed for it. He made a sacrifice in that series, believe it or not. But I feel Flash was nowhere near doing the same thing here... This won't be some epic memorable matchup for the ages. It was just a very disappointing series. Did you see last weeks games? how can you hope for awsome SC when you saw JD get utterly raped in 15 mins, the same thing would have happened this week, flash just halved the time it took Bisu v. Jaedong Bo5. Please respond.
Did Jaedong almost cry after the game he lost against Bisu (he sure did after last week game).
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On December 25 2009 19:31 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:30 thopol wrote:On December 25 2009 19:28 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Calm cheesed Pure twice, fuckin newb 1: 2 hatch muta =/= cheese. 2: Doing an aggressive build after you have been cheesed (Pure's cannon rush in game 1 ring any bells?) makes a lot of sense and is not bitchworthy. learn to recognize sarcasm
Oh no, I didn't notice the inflection you included there in your post.
/pwned
Really though, the retards on the internet overwhelm. They drag one down.
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On December 25 2009 19:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:32 UGC4 wrote:
guys...im serious here...
if Movie loses 2 games in a row...this will be officially the worst night of progaming, in terms of quality of games...please Movie <3 win and make TL happy! Zero > Movie who the fuck cares about Movie? Prince of Queens fighting!
i like them both but have to root for CJ player over Woongjin player
although hopefully zero makes at least 1 queen
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We'll see if interviewer will ask Flash about the fans expecting a longer match or something.
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On December 25 2009 19:31 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:29 OneOther wrote:On December 25 2009 19:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 25 2009 19:25 Scaramanga wrote:On December 25 2009 19:21 VioleTAK wrote:On December 25 2009 19:12 FabledIntegral wrote:
What the hell are people saying Flash isn't going to be respected, blah blah. You HAVE to cheese occasionally to be a good player. Because then you become UNPREDICTABLE to all future opponents. It keeps the opponent guessing, etc. I would say if Flash doesn't bunker rush occasionally he's actually a bad terran in the terms of mindgames. Flash is not going to lose fans respect here, but he damn well knows he's disappointed many viewers today. And the angry feeback is to be expected, and its ok. I'm really disappointed! I was hoping for Flash to win in game 3, after two incredible games. What can I say, JD-Flash bring me hope of the best possible Broodwar action in the world, that can not be shown by anyone else right now. So yes, I'm upset, after seeing the massive crowd, hearing the mega cheers, reading the double 9-1 epic stats, feeling the pressure, hoping for glory, and getting cheesed. You know, in Boxer's interview after the triple bunker rush, he said he knew he'd take heavy critisism and basically get bashed for it. He made a sacrifice in that series, believe it or not. But I feel Flash was nowhere near doing the same thing here... This won't be some epic memorable matchup for the ages. It was just a very disappointing series. Did you see last weeks games? how can you hope for awsome SC when you saw JD get utterly raped in 15 mins, the same thing would have happened this week, flash just halved the time it took Bisu v. Jaedong Bo5. Please respond. flash's tvz has been literally raping every top zerg. was bisu doing the same thing with his pvz? nope. assumptions about what would have happened in second game flash vs jd are based on more than just game 1. everybody knows flash has been on fire and seemingly unstoppable tvz. same cannot be said for bisu. of course jaedong could have won but flash was the *overwhelming*, clear favorite going into the second set. lol! Dont you remember at what time that match was? Bisu was #1 everywhere, people started Bisu bonjwas debates again. Bisu hit his elo peak in that series. Bisu > everyone, JD was a huge underdog.
which bisu vs jaedong series are we talking about? i was thinking about the one where bisu was still good but no where near what flash is like tvz currently. i don't recall bisu ever being a favorite over jaedong.
avidkeystamper: yeah, i mean there is never 100% possibility in any game. from an objective standpoint though i just can't...see jaedong beating flash on tvz straight up
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On December 25 2009 19:32 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
I was obviously joking in my first post, but i disagree that calm's build wasn't cheese. If he fails to kill the main he is dead
god every post you're making today is 100% spot on
why can't you just write my posts for me lololol
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On December 25 2009 19:32 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:31 SuperArc wrote:On December 25 2009 19:29 OneOther wrote:On December 25 2009 19:26 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 25 2009 19:25 Scaramanga wrote:On December 25 2009 19:21 VioleTAK wrote:On December 25 2009 19:12 FabledIntegral wrote:
What the hell are people saying Flash isn't going to be respected, blah blah. You HAVE to cheese occasionally to be a good player. Because then you become UNPREDICTABLE to all future opponents. It keeps the opponent guessing, etc. I would say if Flash doesn't bunker rush occasionally he's actually a bad terran in the terms of mindgames. Flash is not going to lose fans respect here, but he damn well knows he's disappointed many viewers today. And the angry feeback is to be expected, and its ok. I'm really disappointed! I was hoping for Flash to win in game 3, after two incredible games. What can I say, JD-Flash bring me hope of the best possible Broodwar action in the world, that can not be shown by anyone else right now. So yes, I'm upset, after seeing the massive crowd, hearing the mega cheers, reading the double 9-1 epic stats, feeling the pressure, hoping for glory, and getting cheesed. You know, in Boxer's interview after the triple bunker rush, he said he knew he'd take heavy critisism and basically get bashed for it. He made a sacrifice in that series, believe it or not. But I feel Flash was nowhere near doing the same thing here... This won't be some epic memorable matchup for the ages. It was just a very disappointing series. Did you see last weeks games? how can you hope for awsome SC when you saw JD get utterly raped in 15 mins, the same thing would have happened this week, flash just halved the time it took Bisu v. Jaedong Bo5. Please respond. flash's tvz has been literally raping every top zerg. was bisu doing the same thing with his pvz? nope. assumptions about what would have happened in second game flash vs jd are based on more than just game 1. everybody knows flash has been on fire and seemingly unstoppable tvz. same cannot be said for bisu. of course jaedong could have won but flash was the *overwhelming*, clear favorite going into the second set. lol! Dont you remember at what time that match was? Bisu was #1 everywhere, people started Bisu bonjwas debates again. Bisu hit his elo peak in that series. Bisu > everyone, JD was a huge underdog. No, from what I remember most people thought it 50-50. And he is talking about PvZ, not Bisu's overall record.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=8&topic_id=108005
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Movie gogo! Atleast 1 protoss need to do it! Hope Stork kills Shine aswell.
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On December 25 2009 19:31 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:30 thopol wrote:On December 25 2009 19:28 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Calm cheesed Pure twice, fuckin newb 1: 2 hatch muta =/= cheese. 2: Doing an aggressive build after you have been cheesed (Pure's cannon rush in game 1 ring any bells?) makes a lot of sense and is not bitchworthy. How about tech before expand, with no drones on minerals at the expansion? That was the basic definition of all-in right there.
both times calm went for all in mutas... all-in=cheese
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On December 25 2009 19:33 bias- wrote:
So the only time Flash actually 'cheeses' in recent memory, when up a game in a bo3, and his play style usually one of epic proportions in terms of micro macro and strategy, warrants all this flaming?
So, so sorry everybody who was having a wonderful Christmas Eve only to stay up for a brutal reminder that our favorite players don't throw games or ever go easy on each other. Lee Young Ho is the atrium of the heart of starcraft and is allowed to give HIMSELF the nice Xmas gift of getting off work early after raping the #1 zerg in the world in <5 minutes. To be honest I think Flash could have failed at the attempt and played on, which is more than a lot of zergs can say in terms of all-in play.
Flash fighting.
And oh, go Calm, Zero, and Stork
They are just Jaedong fanboys who are angry their wonderkid lost. It's quite entertaining for them to somehow try to blame the winner... for winning... which is what he is paid to do.
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On December 25 2009 19:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:30 mog87 wrote:
If there was a zerg who should be cheesed it would be calm, gay him before he gays you, because he WILL gay you. Did you not watch Pure vs. Calm game 1?
Yea, Pure tried to gay him first but he lost to 2 hatch muta? Have you not watched like most of Calm's games....he uses a lot of ahem.. interesting builds and tactics, many of which Id call pretty gay. I mean I dont like him, but I can see he is a very clever and tactical player not some super lame cheeser.
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On December 25 2009 19:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 19:32 UGC4 wrote:
guys...im serious here...
if Movie loses 2 games in a row...this will be officially the worst night of progaming, in terms of quality of games...please Movie <3 win and make TL happy! Zero > Movie who the fuck cares about Movie? Prince of Queens fighting!
x2. Zero is gonna make a comeback!
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Meh Pure played pretty badly that game. Sure, it was on stage and he was under pressure... But I don't I would've lost sairs so randomly... and I'm C-. Meh, oh well. Go Movie! My first new protoss ^o^
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