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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 18 2009 18:10 GMT
#1681
(P)Movie win = auto cheer!
(Z)Shine win = auto seppuku.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 18:41:14
December 18 2009 18:37 GMT
#1682
On December 19 2009 01:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 01:38 Kazius wrote:
In the OSL we don't want "solid" players. We want the people capable of jaw-dropping, amazing plays. Stork is. Shine isn't. Fantasy is (despite being terrible a lot of the time), Bisu is, and EffOrt is. That's why Shine is getting bashed. He may be doing the right thing from his/his fans' perspective, and no one is saying his victories weren't earned.

BUT no one wants a type-b/yarnc semi again. And each win of Shine, we're one step closer to that kind of gayness.

Which makes Shine's play gay.

And you wrong for saying otherwise.

So a player that's not a big name can't produce "jaw-dropping, amazing plays"?

Yarnc/Type-B are not apt comparisons at all. When they went into OSL, they were known quantities; they'd been around long enough for people to know what they were capable of, so complaining about them getting that far and making for boring sets was a fair complaint. Shine is new though. People don't know what he can do yet, and I'd say that it's overly hasty to think that just because he's new, he's incapable of producing the amazing games you're looking for.

Every S-class player was in this phase before. Bisu was another protoss for Savior to stomp before he became the Revolutionist. Flash was known for cheese before he was known as the Little Monster. Jaedong was the Legend Killer before he was the Tyrant.



Shine hasn't shown me anything that he's S-Class, and lol he's not another Bisu, Flash, or Jaedong. I would put Calm, Effort, Zero, and Jaedong ahead of Shine when it comes to the top zergs. He might get to the round 4, but his winning ways will end there. You don't have to be a hated player to be some up and comer.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
December 18 2009 18:39 GMT
#1683
wow i was so focused on JD vs flash

that i didn't consider the possibility of Shine> stork

GOOD NEWS FOR FLASH FANS HAHAHAHA
Mr Right
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden67 Posts
December 18 2009 19:01 GMT
#1684
If Shine makes it to the Ro4 he deserves it, he's had by far the toughest route there.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
December 18 2009 19:07 GMT
#1685
On December 19 2009 03:37 FireGuyX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 01:56 TheYango wrote:
On December 19 2009 01:38 Kazius wrote:
In the OSL we don't want "solid" players. We want the people capable of jaw-dropping, amazing plays. Stork is. Shine isn't. Fantasy is (despite being terrible a lot of the time), Bisu is, and EffOrt is. That's why Shine is getting bashed. He may be doing the right thing from his/his fans' perspective, and no one is saying his victories weren't earned.

BUT no one wants a type-b/yarnc semi again. And each win of Shine, we're one step closer to that kind of gayness.

Which makes Shine's play gay.

And you wrong for saying otherwise.

So a player that's not a big name can't produce "jaw-dropping, amazing plays"?

Yarnc/Type-B are not apt comparisons at all. When they went into OSL, they were known quantities; they'd been around long enough for people to know what they were capable of, so complaining about them getting that far and making for boring sets was a fair complaint. Shine is new though. People don't know what he can do yet, and I'd say that it's overly hasty to think that just because he's new, he's incapable of producing the amazing games you're looking for.

Every S-class player was in this phase before. Bisu was another protoss for Savior to stomp before he became the Revolutionist. Flash was known for cheese before he was known as the Little Monster. Jaedong was the Legend Killer before he was the Tyrant.



Shine hasn't shown me anything that he's S-Class, and lol he's not another Bisu, Flash, or Jaedong. I would put Calm, Effort, Zero, and Jaedong ahead of Shine when it comes to the top zergs. He might get to the round 4, but his winning ways will end there. You don't have to be a hated player to be some up and comer.


FireGuy --- I don't know how, but you just converted me into a Shine fan.

SHINE SHINING!
May the BeSt man win.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 20:01:29
December 18 2009 19:57 GMT
#1686
On December 19 2009 04:07 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 03:37 FireGuyX wrote:
On December 19 2009 01:56 TheYango wrote:
On December 19 2009 01:38 Kazius wrote:
In the OSL we don't want "solid" players. We want the people capable of jaw-dropping, amazing plays. Stork is. Shine isn't. Fantasy is (despite being terrible a lot of the time), Bisu is, and EffOrt is. That's why Shine is getting bashed. He may be doing the right thing from his/his fans' perspective, and no one is saying his victories weren't earned.

BUT no one wants a type-b/yarnc semi again. And each win of Shine, we're one step closer to that kind of gayness.

Which makes Shine's play gay.

And you wrong for saying otherwise.

So a player that's not a big name can't produce "jaw-dropping, amazing plays"?

Yarnc/Type-B are not apt comparisons at all. When they went into OSL, they were known quantities; they'd been around long enough for people to know what they were capable of, so complaining about them getting that far and making for boring sets was a fair complaint. Shine is new though. People don't know what he can do yet, and I'd say that it's overly hasty to think that just because he's new, he's incapable of producing the amazing games you're looking for.

Every S-class player was in this phase before. Bisu was another protoss for Savior to stomp before he became the Revolutionist. Flash was known for cheese before he was known as the Little Monster. Jaedong was the Legend Killer before he was the Tyrant.



Shine hasn't shown me anything that he's S-Class, and lol he's not another Bisu, Flash, or Jaedong. I would put Calm, Effort, Zero, and Jaedong ahead of Shine when it comes to the top zergs. He might get to the round 4, but his winning ways will end there. You don't have to be a hated player to be some up and comer.


FireGuy --- I don't know how, but you just converted me into a Shine fan.

SHINE SHINING!



If Shine makes it the round of 4 and so does Movie, we'll see who's the best up and comer. And he hasn't completely beaten Stork yet.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 18 2009 19:58 GMT
#1687
just saw flash vs jaedong
not quite sure what to say
ziz
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
203 Posts
December 18 2009 20:05 GMT
#1688
On December 19 2009 02:42 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 02:20 samachking wrote:
On December 19 2009 01:46 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 19 2009 01:38 Kazius wrote:
On December 18 2009 22:51 raga4ka wrote:
Looks like Shine completely outplaying Bisu Stork Effort and Fantasy do to them playing like shit is considered as Shine playing gay ? You guys should stop whining Shine is a solid player and If anything i would be pissed as fuck if Fantasy was in the Ro8 with the way he is playing .

In the OSL we don't want "solid" players. We want the people capable of jaw-dropping, amazing plays. Stork is. Shine isn't. Fantasy is (despite being terrible a lot of the time), Bisu is, and EffOrt is. That's why Shine is getting bashed. He may be doing the right thing from his/his fans' perspective, and no one is saying his victories weren't earned.

BUT no one wants a type-b/yarnc semi again. And each win of Shine, we're one step closer to that kind of gayness.

Which makes Shine's play gay.

And you wrong for saying otherwise.


Someone didn't watch Shine vs Violet.


That was the best game of 2009 and the pimpest play of 2009, but who wants to watch a final match in MSL ro64 between 2 non top 20 kespa players

Game quality is not measured by the names that are playing but how well they are playing in the game, thats all that matters. Everyone had to start up somewhere too, you just dont pop into the scene and become a big name with a million fanboys

Iloveoov! Granted he didnt have many fans, everyone seemed to hate him in fact, but he came out guns blazing laying waste to everyone in his way. (Iv always loved him tho, the greatest BW player ever)


oh my gawd.

I whole heartedly agree oov is the greatest bw player.. i love him so much.. he's my favorite sc player ever~
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 20:11:44
December 18 2009 20:10 GMT
#1689
On December 19 2009 04:58 OneOther wrote:
just saw flash vs jaedong
not quite sure what to say

Dude....

JD looked so miserable throughout the game. Flash is so freaking ridiculous...

How is Flash able to deny the 3rd so well in TvZ nowadays?
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
imbecile
Profile Joined October 2009
563 Posts
December 18 2009 20:28 GMT
#1690
Dammit Stork. I can't believe you spent the whole game against a muta spammer without once thinking of Dark Archon. There were literally a dozen situations where one Mealstrom could have won you the game.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 20:34:21
December 18 2009 20:33 GMT
#1691
On December 19 2009 05:10 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2009 04:58 OneOther wrote:
just saw flash vs jaedong
not quite sure what to say

Dude....

JD looked so miserable throughout the game. Flash is so freaking ridiculous...

How is Flash able to deny the 3rd so well in TvZ nowadays?


I think JD made some mistakes... or rather... expected Flash to do different things.

1) JD's gas was late because of the lings. I think JD expected Flash to make a bunker, but Flash built a depot instead.
2) After the 9 mutas popped, JD went for Flash's main instead of killing the group of MM wondering outside. The "counter" did absolutely nothing except giving up all of the lings and weaken majority of the mutas. As a result, JD was never able to make a third.
3) Somewhat related to point 2, I think JD expected Flash to go for a faster tech (i.e. 2 rax), but Flash was producing units from 3.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
December 18 2009 20:41 GMT
#1692
On December 19 2009 01:38 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 22:51 raga4ka wrote:
Looks like Shine completely outplaying Bisu Stork Effort and Fantasy do to them playing like shit is considered as Shine playing gay ? You guys should stop whining Shine is a solid player and If anything i would be pissed as fuck if Fantasy was in the Ro8 with the way he is playing .

In the OSL we don't want "solid" players. We want the people capable of jaw-dropping, amazing plays. Stork is. Shine isn't. Fantasy is (despite being terrible a lot of the time), Bisu is, and EffOrt is. That's why Shine is getting bashed. He may be doing the right thing from his/his fans' perspective, and no one is saying his victories weren't earned.

BUT no one wants a type-b/yarnc semi again. And each win of Shine, we're one step closer to that kind of gayness.

Which makes Shine's play gay.

And you wrong for saying otherwise.


Faaaaaag.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8197 Posts
December 18 2009 20:49 GMT
#1693
lol people are such crybabies about Shine. Whine more yeah?
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
December 18 2009 20:53 GMT
#1694
Each time I think "ok this time shine will fail" he wins.

I am starting to think he's the real deal...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 18 2009 20:58 GMT
#1695
Flash wins like always
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
December 18 2009 20:58 GMT
#1696
Zero played so well up until he decided to engage Movie in that last battle in the middle. If he had used his lurkers to defend, he would've eventually starved Movie out
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
December 18 2009 21:02 GMT
#1697
I wonder if people actually believe that Shine is boring or they just say that because they don't have any real 'nostalgic' moments with him yet. I'm sorry, but I thought watching him rape my favorite player with only mutas was pretty fucking crazy.
Chains none
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 18 2009 21:10 GMT
#1698
On December 19 2009 05:28 imbecile wrote:
Dammit Stork. I can't believe you spent the whole game against a muta spammer without once thinking of Dark Archon. There were literally a dozen situations where one Mealstrom could have won you the game.


He was gas starved. How is he going to get sair/reavers/HT with storm AND DA with maelstrom? By the time he had a DA he'd already be overrun. Not saying Z > P and Stork played perfect. But a DA is not an easy answer. Half the time the muta harass was coming over water. No way for DA to maelstrom that.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
December 18 2009 21:12 GMT
#1699
i'm gonna laugh so hard if shine wins this OSL beating bisu, stork, and either flash or jaedong on the way. even then people will still say he sucks.

now pardon me as i slip into a 48 hour depression after watching that jaedong/flash game
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
December 18 2009 21:27 GMT
#1700
I'm a bit bummed that Jaedong lost, but Flash is nearing 2400!!
this is my quote.
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