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On November 14 2009 16:08 Myxomatosis wrote:
foreigners scene was so much stronger back in the day... testie taking games off oov and midas.. almost beating the former in a bo3. legionnaire getting 3rd, androide 2nd. mondragon took a game off savior last year. we used to have foreigners who were actually good like testie, mondragon, androide, draco etc. i realize thatsome of these guys sytill play but they are not nearly as competitive as they once were .
Good in comparison to the Koreans.
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OK, now that I can take my sunglasses off after basking in Stork's glory for a while, I can honestly say... Old vs. New is a useless topic. Enjoy what we've got now, and prepare for the awesome that is JD vs. Bisu.
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On November 14 2009 16:09 Spt.Worked wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:05 MuffinDude wrote:On November 14 2009 16:03 Spt.Worked wrote:On November 14 2009 16:00 jalstar wrote:On November 14 2009 15:59 Spt.Worked wrote:
Mondi would of never been embarrassed this bad vs ANY pro korean. Our foreign community needs some new top players o_O this is sad. kolll is not a "top foreigner" he just happened to beat idra I was first to say that Kolll has done nothing worthy of being praised a hero. And I got flamed by 10 people. I never said the Kid sucked just that unless he can give Stork some gg's his biggest accomplishment was beating a USA kid who wishes he was Korean. u were saying how new progamers just copy korean shit and suck shit. read what you wrote dumbfuck. I said the new progamers??? just copy the korean shit and suck shit??? dude stop trying to argue with me you don't know anything about BW. I have been here since '98.
ooooh NINETEEN NIGHTY EIGHT WOW
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On November 14 2009 16:08 Myxomatosis wrote:
foreigners scene was so much stronger back in the day... testie taking games off oov and midas.. almost beating the former in a bo3. legionnaire getting 3rd, androide 2nd. mondragon took a game off savior last year. we used to have foreigners who were actually good like testie, mondragon, androide, draco etc. i realize thatsome of these guys sytill play but they are not nearly as competitive as they once were .
Not absolute stronger, relatively stronger compared to the korean scene.
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On November 14 2009 16:06 Spt.Worked wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:03 MuffinDude wrote:On November 14 2009 16:01 Spt.Worked wrote:
this is all I have been trying to point out before 10 kids freaked out on me. All I am trying to say is this WCG sucks because our foreigners cannot even give the koreans a game worth watching anymore. It is sad. Pj, a relatively new foreigner > all old foreigner In fact, idra and most of chinese team > old foreigner this is probably the worst post I have ever seen in my life, PJ is basically as oldschool as it get you clown, and FYI. He is not considered a foreigner seeing as he is a paid progamer.....
paid progamer not in korea. do you understand that you don't get much being a progamer even in korea. And pj is the only foreigner who has been able to adapt to the new playing style, he maybe old but his playing style is pretty constant with the new trends.
lets go back to your old topic dumbfuck. you said newprogamers suck shit because they copy korean strats. Well guess what, pj, who copied the very korean strats you were talking about, is probably one of the best foreigners in the scene. He is way better than all the old progamers out there by far and has tons more skill than any of them ever did.
On November 14 2009 16:09 Spt.Worked wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:05 MuffinDude wrote:On November 14 2009 16:03 Spt.Worked wrote:On November 14 2009 16:00 jalstar wrote:On November 14 2009 15:59 Spt.Worked wrote:
Mondi would of never been embarrassed this bad vs ANY pro korean. Our foreign community needs some new top players o_O this is sad. kolll is not a "top foreigner" he just happened to beat idra I was first to say that Kolll has done nothing worthy of being praised a hero. And I got flamed by 10 people. I never said the Kid sucked just that unless he can give Stork some gg's his biggest accomplishment was beating a USA kid who wishes he was Korean. u were saying how new progamers just copy korean shit and suck shit. read what you wrote dumbfuck. I said the new progamers??? just copy the korean shit and suck shit??? dude stop trying to argue with me you don't know anything about BW. I have been here since '98.
Roflcopter. just lmao.
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are chinese allowed in tsl2?
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when Bisu vs JD will be broadcasted ?
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On November 14 2009 16:09 Spt.Worked wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:05 MuffinDude wrote:On November 14 2009 16:03 Spt.Worked wrote:On November 14 2009 16:00 jalstar wrote:On November 14 2009 15:59 Spt.Worked wrote:
Mondi would of never been embarrassed this bad vs ANY pro korean. Our foreign community needs some new top players o_O this is sad. kolll is not a "top foreigner" he just happened to beat idra I was first to say that Kolll has done nothing worthy of being praised a hero. And I got flamed by 10 people. I never said the Kid sucked just that unless he can give Stork some gg's his biggest accomplishment was beating a USA kid who wishes he was Korean. u were saying how new progamers just copy korean shit and suck shit. read what you wrote dumbfuck. I said the new progamers??? just copy the korean shit and suck shit??? dude stop trying to argue with me you don't know anything about BW. I have been here since '98.
honestly who the hell are you? congratulations on "being here since 1998" but please stop acting like you are the shit + your opinion matters. you are clearly wrong and your trolling is getting old
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On November 14 2009 16:07 ssj114 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:06 QibingZero wrote:On November 14 2009 16:05 ssj114 wrote:
No one cares about 3 consecutive WCG finals? Finishing in the top 3 of WCG Korea is much more impressive than getting to the finals at WCG itself. And to get into 3 consecutive WCG finals, Stork had to finish in top 3 of WCG Korea 3 consecutive times? Easy?
...... yeah but that's nothing new is it???
should we all be like "wooo he qualified for WCG" in this thread, even though it happened a while ago?
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I think stork scouted and see funny timing from the zerg base, therefore deduced his skill level is far ahead. Things like drone count, building timing, placement, and drone micro they are really sharp at detecting it. This wcg koreans played reactionary.
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Wow can we stop this pointless argument or take it to a new thread?
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On November 14 2009 16:10 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:09 Spt.Worked wrote:On November 14 2009 16:05 MuffinDude wrote:On November 14 2009 16:03 Spt.Worked wrote:On November 14 2009 16:00 jalstar wrote:On November 14 2009 15:59 Spt.Worked wrote:
Mondi would of never been embarrassed this bad vs ANY pro korean. Our foreign community needs some new top players o_O this is sad. kolll is not a "top foreigner" he just happened to beat idra I was first to say that Kolll has done nothing worthy of being praised a hero. And I got flamed by 10 people. I never said the Kid sucked just that unless he can give Stork some gg's his biggest accomplishment was beating a USA kid who wishes he was Korean. u were saying how new progamers just copy korean shit and suck shit. read what you wrote dumbfuck. I said the new progamers??? just copy the korean shit and suck shit??? dude stop trying to argue with me you don't know anything about BW. I have been here since '98. ooooh NINETEEN NIGHTY EIGHT WOW
now only two arguments left for spt: who's older, who has bigger
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On November 14 2009 16:07 ssj114 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:06 QibingZero wrote:On November 14 2009 16:05 ssj114 wrote:
No one cares about 3 consecutive WCG finals? Finishing in the top 3 of WCG Korea is much more impressive than getting to the finals at WCG itself. And to get into 3 consecutive WCG finals, Stork had to finish in top 3 of WCG Korea 3 consecutive times? Easy?
Of course it's impressive, but to say it qualifies him for 'best progamer ever' is crazy. Do yourself a favor and take a peek at NaDa's accomplishments to start.
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On November 14 2009 16:07 arsonist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2009 16:03 MuffinDude wrote:On November 14 2009 16:01 Spt.Worked wrote:
this is all I have been trying to point out before 10 kids freaked out on me. All I am trying to say is this WCG sucks because our foreigners cannot even give the koreans a game worth watching anymore. It is sad. Pj, a relatively new foreigner > all old foreigner In fact, idra and most of chinese team > old foreigner PJ was on SKT1.
Really?
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On November 14 2009 16:13 Xiphos wrote:
OMG Moon lost to Infi! what the fock.
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And to your first point, about there being no non koreans, it was only 2 years ago that pj came in second to stork. ANd further, the wcg kids your talking about, never had to play the arguably top players in there race. THIS IS THE BEST KOREAN LINE UP IN HISTORY, all these players at some point in time have held the title best player in the world, and are without question the greatest starcraft players of all time, your an idiot to think that the greatest starcraft players of all time, would lose to players who do not play the quality games that they play, as often as they play. Seriously, stfu, advocate to a game off of the greatest zerg of all time, no one you could name, practice or not, could do that.
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On November 14 2009 16:11 jalstar wrote:
are chinese allowed in tsl2?
I'm not sure, they mention lag as a disqualifier so I would guess not
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