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ruffe
Profile Joined November 2009
China40 Posts
November 14 2009 07:17 GMT
#841
On November 14 2009 16:13 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:07 arsonist wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:03 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:01 Spt.Worked wrote:
this is all I have been trying to point out before 10 kids freaked out on me. All I am trying to say is this WCG sucks because our foreigners cannot even give the koreans a game worth watching anymore. It is sad.

Pj, a relatively new foreigner > all old foreigner

In fact,
idra and most of chinese team > old foreigner


PJ was on SKT1.


Really?

was once on
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
November 14 2009 07:17 GMT
#842
On November 14 2009 16:16 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:13 ssj114 wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:12 7mk wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 ssj114 wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:06 QibingZero wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:05 ssj114 wrote:
No one cares about 3 consecutive WCG finals?


Finishing in the top 3 of WCG Korea is much more impressive than getting to the finals at WCG itself.


And to get into 3 consecutive WCG finals, Stork had to finish in top 3 of WCG Korea 3 consecutive times? Easy?


...... yeah but that's nothing new is it???
should we all be like "wooo he qualified for WCG" in this thread, even though it happened a while ago?


But that's what I'm saying - it is new. Who has EVER made it into 3 consecutive WCG finals from Korea? Stork is the greatest WCG Starcraft player of all time (perhaps arguably only second to Boxer if he gets another silver tomorrow).


who cares man greatest WCG starcraft player doesnt mean anything compared to winning multiples msls/osls
but ok ill let you cheer about that go ahead


Just trying to make conversation. And I'm not cheering about it at all. I don't really like Stork much. I hope Jaedong wins this WCG and gets another 10 OSL's and MSL's.
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ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
November 14 2009 07:18 GMT
#843
On November 14 2009 16:16 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:09 ssj114 wrote:
Seriously guys, Stork is undisputedly the greatest WCG Starcraft player of all time. I guess you can argue that Boxer is still ahead, considering he has 2 gold medals. But Stork could have 2 golds and 1 silver if he wins the final tomorrow.

Boxer won two consecutive WCG GF. Stork can't achieve the same


Yes, but Stork made 3 straight finals. Boxer will NEVER do that.
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gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
November 14 2009 07:18 GMT
#844
On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill bye all ~~~


Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.



I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.

NO IT HAS NOT, seriously stop talking. There exist now in progaming house an a team and a b team, and far far more players to play. Your old pros are at best equivalent to b teamers, when you consider every team has a b team, then you realize that these s class gamers have to better, far far far, better to be where they are, the gap between s class and b class is huge. Further, bisu, jaedong, flash, and stork, practice more than anyone ever, as reported by the old koreans that you talk about. Boxer recently said he had envy over how much bisu practices, your a fool to think things havent changed. The difference between a korean from 2001, and a korean now is night and day.
Taek Bang
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
November 14 2009 07:18 GMT
#845
On November 14 2009 16:17 Spt.Worked wrote:
ok time to get banned here for the 10th time,


You're all trash, I would smash any of you 99-0 /w reps 2 eZ. Idra is ugliest mofo all time with 0 skills and should jump into traffic.


Gg No RE i am the King.

well you got 1 thing right
ur about to get your ass banned
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ruffe
Profile Joined November 2009
China40 Posts
November 14 2009 07:19 GMT
#846
ssj114

hello, are you really live in Afghanistan?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
November 14 2009 07:19 GMT
#847
On November 14 2009 16:17 Spt.Worked wrote:
ok time to get banned here for the 10th time,


You're all trash, I would smash any of you 99-0 /w reps 2 eZ. Idra is ugliest mofo all time with 0 skills and should jump into traffic.


Gg No RE i am the King.

like watching a monkey in a cage
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
November 14 2009 07:19 GMT
#848
On November 14 2009 16:17 Spt.Worked wrote:
ok time to get banned here for the 10th time,


You're all trash, I would smash any of you 99-0 /w reps 2 eZ. Idra is ugliest mofo all time with 0 skills and should jump into traffic.


Gg No RE i am the King.


wow youre such a cool martyr, youre e-penis must be huge
beep boop
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 14 2009 07:19 GMT
#849
On November 14 2009 16:18 ssj114 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:16 Bifur wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:09 ssj114 wrote:
Seriously guys, Stork is undisputedly the greatest WCG Starcraft player of all time. I guess you can argue that Boxer is still ahead, considering he has 2 gold medals. But Stork could have 2 golds and 1 silver if he wins the final tomorrow.

Boxer won two consecutive WCG GF. Stork can't achieve the same


Yes, but Stork made 3 straight finals. Boxer will NEVER do that.

I'm a stork fan and let me tell you something, wcg means shit so yea. I know, even I'm feeling sad, but yea.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
November 14 2009 07:19 GMT
#850
On November 14 2009 16:17 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill bye all ~~~


Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.



I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.


The old ones only seemed much better because the koreans were no where near as dominant then.. it's not about new foreigners just being worse and copying everything. Let's see all the old top foreigners come back, use smart, strategic play, and dominate? Could they?


In fact, koreans became untouchable only two years ago.

Remember the history:
2005 - Androide killed Silent_Control
2006 - Draco killed Midas and almost killed iloveoov
2007 - Pj killed Savior
2008 - Koreans are untouchable
2009 - Koreans are untouchable
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 14 2009 07:19 GMT
#851
I love how the commentators have no clue what is going on for this Dungeon and Fighters game.

"That gun thing looks pretty good, but those robot things seem cool too"
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 07:21:16
November 14 2009 07:20 GMT
#852
On November 14 2009 16:19 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:17 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill bye all ~~~


Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.



I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.


The old ones only seemed much better because the koreans were no where near as dominant then.. it's not about new foreigners just being worse and copying everything. Let's see all the old top foreigners come back, use smart, strategic play, and dominate? Could they?


In fact, koreans became untouchable only two years ago.

Remember the history:
2005 - Androide killed Silent_Control
2006 - Draco killed Midas and almost killed iloveoov
2007 - Pj killed Savior
2008 - Koreans are untouchable
2009 - Koreans are untouchable


you forgot 2004

xellos won 13-0
Probably most dominant wcg performence from a player ever
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
TheWD
Profile Joined June 2009
United States31 Posts
November 14 2009 07:20 GMT
#853
The commentary for this.. whatever this game is is hilarious

"And his special is... that gun thing"

"And there are the shoots from his gun"

"He's got that blue furry thing flying behind him"
UGK 4 Life
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#854
On November 14 2009 16:17 Spt.Worked wrote:
ok time to get banned here for the 10th time,


You're all trash, I would smash any of you 99-0 /w reps 2 eZ. Idra is ugliest mofo all time with 0 skills and should jump into traffic.


Gg No RE i am the King.
Hard to believe I've encountered this internet argument. Read about it, but first time first hand. Amazing.
se7en247
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States487 Posts
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#855
"THE SUPER SWORD THING"!!!!
I didn't come to play..I came to win. Now lets play.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#856
On November 14 2009 16:17 ruffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:13 vRoOk wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 arsonist wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:03 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:01 Spt.Worked wrote:
this is all I have been trying to point out before 10 kids freaked out on me. All I am trying to say is this WCG sucks because our foreigners cannot even give the koreans a game worth watching anymore. It is sad.

Pj, a relatively new foreigner > all old foreigner

In fact,
idra and most of chinese team > old foreigner


PJ was on SKT1.


Really?

was once on

To add to this, Lx was also a progamer for SKT1 along with Pj
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#857
for not knowing the game, the commentators aren't doing too bad, and it's hilarious listening to them
@QxGDarkCell ._.
ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#858
On November 14 2009 16:19 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:18 ssj114 wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:16 Bifur wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:09 ssj114 wrote:
Seriously guys, Stork is undisputedly the greatest WCG Starcraft player of all time. I guess you can argue that Boxer is still ahead, considering he has 2 gold medals. But Stork could have 2 golds and 1 silver if he wins the final tomorrow.

Boxer won two consecutive WCG GF. Stork can't achieve the same


Yes, but Stork made 3 straight finals. Boxer will NEVER do that.

I'm a stork fan and let me tell you something, wcg means shit so yea. I know, even I'm feeling sad, but yea.


Actually, WCG means a lot (mentally, psychologically, etc etc). That's why you are following this thread. That's why people get so excited about it. That's why you are bothering to post and reply to me posts.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 07:22:30
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#859
lolol oops
Jaedong
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 07:23:17
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#860
On November 14 2009 16:19 kitaman27 wrote:
I love how the commentators have no clue what is going on for this Dungeon and Fighters game.

"That gun thing looks pretty good, but those robot things seem cool too"

Oh how much i love wcg
On November 14 2009 16:21 ssj114 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:19 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:18 ssj114 wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:16 Bifur wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:09 ssj114 wrote:
Seriously guys, Stork is undisputedly the greatest WCG Starcraft player of all time. I guess you can argue that Boxer is still ahead, considering he has 2 gold medals. But Stork could have 2 golds and 1 silver if he wins the final tomorrow.

Boxer won two consecutive WCG GF. Stork can't achieve the same


Yes, but Stork made 3 straight finals. Boxer will NEVER do that.

I'm a stork fan and let me tell you something, wcg means shit so yea. I know, even I'm feeling sad, but yea.


Actually, WCG means a lot (mentally, psychologically, etc etc). That's why you are following this thread. That's why people get so excited about it. That's why you are bothering to post and reply to me posts.

Actually, I just like watching stork win and wcg is fun, but besides that, I acknowledge wcg gold means little in comparison to osl and msl.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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