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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 14 2009 07:21 GMT
#861
IdrA vs Spt.Worked grudge match with day9 commentary plz
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 14 2009 07:22 GMT
#862
Is anyone watching the main stage? Whats that guy wearing on his head?? It looks like a throw rug.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
November 14 2009 07:22 GMT
#863
HAHAHAHa this is hilarious, they got no idea whats going on but they are making this really interesting to watch
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
November 14 2009 07:22 GMT
#864
"Super Sword is now the name for that dagger thing"

lol.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
November 14 2009 07:22 GMT
#865
i would be a way better commentator for D&F
KTY
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 14 2009 07:22 GMT
#866
super sword action time!
@QxGDarkCell ._.
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
November 14 2009 07:23 GMT
#867
On November 14 2009 16:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:19 Bifur wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:17 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill bye all ~~~


Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.



I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.


The old ones only seemed much better because the koreans were no where near as dominant then.. it's not about new foreigners just being worse and copying everything. Let's see all the old top foreigners come back, use smart, strategic play, and dominate? Could they?


In fact, koreans became untouchable only two years ago.

Remember the history:
2005 - Androide killed Silent_Control
2006 - Draco killed Midas and almost killed iloveoov
2007 - Pj killed Savior
2008 - Koreans are untouchable
2009 - Koreans are untouchable


you forgot 2004

xellos won 13-0
Probably most dominant wcg performence from a player ever


Didnt XellOs get knocked out by androide in 2005 as well?
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes.
Breaking Bad
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 14 2009 07:23 GMT
#868
cs... 4hrs, D&F.. less than ten minutes
@QxGDarkCell ._.
DarkOptik
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
452 Posts
November 14 2009 07:23 GMT
#869
Holy crap that was fast.
motoroia
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada70 Posts
November 14 2009 07:23 GMT
#870
YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY FINNALLYY JD VS BISU
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
November 14 2009 07:23 GMT
#871
SUPER SWORD roflmao. 3-0 sweep, yay that was fast, time for JD-BISU WOOT
TheWD
Profile Joined June 2009
United States31 Posts
November 14 2009 07:23 GMT
#872
Man I really would like to watch some more of this game, well done commentators

Also the Japanese player's hat
UGK 4 Life
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#873
i thought that was sooo fucking funny

"super sword"

i actually enjoyed that
too easy
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#874
did the jap guy win? who won??
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 07:24:57
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#875
On November 14 2009 16:23 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:19 Bifur wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:17 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill bye all ~~~


Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.



I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.


The old ones only seemed much better because the koreans were no where near as dominant then.. it's not about new foreigners just being worse and copying everything. Let's see all the old top foreigners come back, use smart, strategic play, and dominate? Could they?


In fact, koreans became untouchable only two years ago.

Remember the history:
2005 - Androide killed Silent_Control
2006 - Draco killed Midas and almost killed iloveoov
2007 - Pj killed Savior
2008 - Koreans are untouchable
2009 - Koreans are untouchable


you forgot 2004

xellos won 13-0
Probably most dominant wcg performence from a player ever


Didnt XellOs get knocked out by androide in 2005 as well?
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes.

wasnt that silent_control?
+ Show Spoiler +
yes
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#876
dude i hope they have a replay for df
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 07:25:08
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#877
the commentators did a nice job for not knowing the game, made it entertaining at least.

finally time for bw, like 3hrs behind schedule
@QxGDarkCell ._.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#878
On November 14 2009 16:19 kitaman27 wrote:
I love how the commentators have no clue what is going on for this Dungeon and Fighters game.

"That gun thing looks pretty good, but those robot things seem cool too"

LOL ..........
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 07:26:12
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#879
On November 14 2009 16:23 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:20 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:19 Bifur wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:17 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill bye all ~~~


Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.



I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.


The old ones only seemed much better because the koreans were no where near as dominant then.. it's not about new foreigners just being worse and copying everything. Let's see all the old top foreigners come back, use smart, strategic play, and dominate? Could they?


In fact, koreans became untouchable only two years ago.

Remember the history:
2005 - Androide killed Silent_Control
2006 - Draco killed Midas and almost killed iloveoov
2007 - Pj killed Savior
2008 - Koreans are untouchable
2009 - Koreans are untouchable


you forgot 2004

xellos won 13-0
Probably most dominant wcg performence from a player ever


Didnt XellOs get knocked out by androide in 2005 as well?
+ Show Spoiler +
Yes.

Not exactly.
Silent_Control 2:0 Xellos
Androide 2:0 Silent_Control

It was TvT matches, so Androide would probably knock him out, but unfortunately Silent_Control did this earlier
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
November 14 2009 07:24 GMT
#880
On November 14 2009 16:19 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 16:17 Camlito wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:12 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 16:07 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:57 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:51 Spt.Worked wrote:
last thing I will post here since I can see all of you think the new school foreigners are so great.

if guys like Fisheye, Mondi, Blackman, Testie, Elky, Draco were in their youth and playing BW as much as the new foreigners at this time. They would be far far far better than what we are seeing from these foreigners at WCG. Back in the day the Foreigners were 1 maybe 2 steps behind the koreans. Today, the new crew of foreigners do not even belong to be in the same game as the koreans. Koll our last foreigner left looks like a D- iccup player vs Stork right now. That is what my point is, the old school players had more NATURAL skill bye all ~~~


Hmmm i recall boxer making blackman look like a complete newbie on lost temple at WCG.

Ok now this is where you dismiss this point and make another one.

Your an idiot, this is to the guy who thinks foreigners now are worse. Do you not realize how much the koreans play???? Since then there practice got ramped up to 10 hours at the least. Like your fucking kidding right? Do you have any idea, the royal raping new school koreans do to the old school crew? And natural talent is bs coming from a kid who has never spoken to a single good player in your life. Because they practiced the same amount as these new guys, mondragon spent ridiculous amounts of time perfecting his style. AND A HUGE FYI, new school kids just took games from pros, they do all the all the time, rets taken a game off of kal, white ra and g-5 beat boxer (which your old school kids could not do). Your lack of understanding of the scene serves as nothing but a laughing point for the rest of us.



I hope you realize that Korean Pro teams have had the same training since about 2001. The skill gap has only increased because our new foreigners are not as good as the old ones.


The old ones only seemed much better because the koreans were no where near as dominant then.. it's not about new foreigners just being worse and copying everything. Let's see all the old top foreigners come back, use smart, strategic play, and dominate? Could they?


In fact, koreans became untouchable only two years ago.

Remember the history:
2005 - Androide killed Silent_Control
2006 - Draco killed Midas and almost killed iloveoov
2007 - Pj killed Savior
2008 - Koreans are untouchable
2009 - Koreans are untouchable

savior has gotten better, and he can not hold a candle to the koreans of today. What you guys are noticing is the mechanics revolution. Bisu did not just bring the bisu build, he brought the wave of mechanic monsters. Average apm back then 300, average apm now 400, and thats apm, the eapm has also sky rocketed, spam is out, effective is in, players are waaaay better. Within a few short years after savior we now how a kespa top 30 who could absolutely rape savior back then, actually, they could rape him now, and that says a lot because hes better now then he was then.
Taek Bang
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