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CSL+: Duke versus Georgia Tech
November 8, 2009: 8:00pm EST
Team Interviews
Duke's Coordinator Empyrean:
"Silversky is Canadian."
- There are rumors among all the coordinators that the East Conference was cursed by two incredibly stacked teams in the south. Please confirm or disavow these rumors for us.
▲ I wouldn't describe having stacked teams as being a curse. It's more fun for the fans and makes the league more drama slash action packed. That being said, the word "stacked" is a pretty vague term. It's hard to say if any teams are, in fact, stacked.
- Could you give us a little background on your players and their histories?
▲ Probably, but I don't think my players would want me sharing their deepest, darkest secrets. Sneak preview slash spoiler alert: Silversky is Canadian. Ewwwww.
- Is there any history between Duke and Georgia Tech? Do you recognize any of your opponents?
▲ I'm not aware of any history, no. And yes, I do recognize some of my opponents. I've been ICCup stalking them for the longest time. You can't make line-ups without knowing your opponent :<
- How have you prepared for this upcoming match?
▲ We haven't really prepared, to be honest. One of our players recently started ICCuping again. And before people ask, no, it's not Nony.
- What is your biggest unknown about Georgia Tech? Your biggest fear?
▲ There isn't much I don't know about the Georgia Tech team. I'm a statistics major - t's my job to have data on things :D. As for fear, there isn't much else to fear besides the unknown so I think we have it covered in that category :D
- What do you think the results of this match will be?
▲ 3-0.
- What about the rest of the competition in the East Conference? Do any schools pose a threat to Duke in the playoffs?
▲ There are lots of schools in the East Conference who could be considered good teams. We'll let the rest of the season play itself out :O
- Who do you think will make the finals from the West Conference, and how do you think Duke will fare against them?
▲ UC Irvine and UCSD have pretty strong teams. I think we'll manage.
- Any words for your opponents?
▲ Not really, no 
- Any words for your
▲ Oh I wasn't aware we had any fans. This is quite flattering :D
GEORGIA TECH
- There are rumors among all the coordinators that the East Conference was cursed by two incredibly stacked teams in the south. Please confirm or disavow these rumors for us.
▲ It’s true, Emory and ourselves are pretty strong teams this season.
- I hear Georgia Tech has a few new additions to their team this year (and more recently, in this round). Could you introduce them for us?
▲ Well most frequently we have played Tony David Choi aka eleven. He’s a C- Terran and a really fun guy. Although Ed Tan played for the CSL a little bit last year, this year we were fortunate enough to get him to play every week. He’s a very very smart Protoss and I love to watch him play. Most notably I would think is the addition of Ruodu Wang aka Master Asia (and I believe back in China he went by the aka PDR). Not only is Ruodu one of the top Zergs living in the country right now, but he is a really awesome person and tons of fun to play with. Oh yeah there’s also this guy named Brian Fransioli that I met at a LAN party last week. He’s a pretty cool guy and we’re trying him out vs Duke this week.
- Is there any history between Georgia Tech and Duke? Do you recognize any of your opponents?
▲ No I don’t recognize anyone from Duke. Don’t they have some Zerg player who lived in Korea for a few months or something?
- How have you prepared for this upcoming match?
▲ I had everyone whose playing this week practice spelling words out with buildings. It’s pretty hard to form letters with hatcheries.
- What is your biggest unknown about Duke? Your biggest fear?
▲ I hope they don’t lag. That’d be awful.
- What is your greatest advantage over Duke?
▲ We’ve got the balls to play all three races. What’s this PPTT non-sense?
- What do you think the results of this match will be?
▲ Georgia Tech winning 3-2 3-1 or 3-0 with either Ruodu, Ed, Brian, or David dropping a game.
- Who do you think will make the finals from the West Conference, and how do you think Georgia Tech would fare against them?
▲ I haven’t really paid much attention to other divisions but I would say UT. They were great last year and it looks like they’re just as good this year, plus AttackZerg is a great guy.
- Any words for your opponents?
▲ Don’t forget to research storm this time ^^
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah it's pretty douchy but I think it's 10x more enjoyable to read than if I answered questions honestly lol.
georgia tech send me stuff T_T otherwise your interview side looks so empty
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Imma have to cheer for close-by gatech!!!! goooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
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Liquid.NonY < Ride of Valkyries > gt.MasterAsia
TitleOf.Mutal < Outsider > Assem
oooo. this should be good 
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On November 08 2009 02:42 OneOther wrote:
gt's interview is awesome
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I just don't understand why you wouldn't trash talk at all in a pregame interview
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Georgia Tech Hwaiting!
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did gtech agree to playing at 9 30? i thought some players couldn't
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it starts at 8pm est afaik
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Awesome. I can't wait <3 Livestream?
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I'm actually not sure if we have a livestreamer :/ someone will definitely be able to stream the game, but not necessarily cast it.
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8PM EST is what we agreed on
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Nony and Assem should have their TLPD pics here IMO.
Also, no predictions in OP?
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Georgia Tech Hwaiting!!!
And just FYI, Ga. Tech has the best benchwarmer in all of the league!!
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On November 08 2009 10:06 hasuprotoss wrote:
Georgia Tech Hwaiting!!!
And just FYI, Ga. Tech has the best benchwarmer in all of the league!!
Ideas???
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I am bored, if you want I can stream and cast it. Most are TvP, if I actually cast it my knowledge in that MU sucks hard.
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- How have you prepared for this upcoming match?
▲ I had everyone whose playing this week practice spelling words out with buildings. It’s pretty hard to form letters with hatcheries.
- What is your biggest unknown about Duke? Your biggest fear?
▲ I hope they don’t lag. That’d be awful.
- Any words for your opponents?
▲ Don’t forget to research storm this time ^^
Ok so baller answer, I can't stop to laught after read this.
GT Hwaiting
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CSL is so broken.
Can't wait to watch!
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On November 08 2009 10:09 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2009 10:06 hasuprotoss wrote:
Georgia Tech Hwaiting!!!
And just FYI, Ga. Tech has the best benchwarmer in all of the league!! Ideas???
no way man im the ace match bonjwa. I'm 2-0.
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eh it hasn't started yet?
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Ace Match Nony vs Assem please!
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On November 08 2009 11:14 iloveHieu wrote:
eh it hasn't started yet?
It says November 8th, unless they mean KST
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yea ideas = ace bonjwa.
our best ace bench warmer is hasuprotoss and phil
and dont forget sheng
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oh shit lol didn't realize this was tomorrow night lawl damn korean time.
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CameronCraziE > eleven
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i wanna c ur predictions hazely 
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On November 08 2009 11:42 Nogardeci89 wrote:
yea ideas = ace bonjwa.
our best ace bench warmer is hasuprotoss and phil
and dont forget sheng
Oh, forgot about Phil. Yeah, his uber-long ethernet cable might take the cake...
And Sheng just does homework... Pshhh....
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this sounds exciting, but i have a feeling d00k is going to get rolled 3-0 or 3-1
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Well since UNC doesn't have a team, I will have to commit tar heel treason by saying go Duke pwn GT!
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If you guys have trouble streaming pm me and I will get it up and running
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Diggity will u cast ? or just stream ?
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I'll stream if you fools want :D
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On November 09 2009 02:19 NeoIllusions wrote:
Go Kaz!
Haha, your Travian compatriot
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i can't spell "ppp" with buildings fast enough yet.. 3.5 hours to practice!
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On November 09 2009 06:17 GT.Eleven wrote:
i can't spell "ppp" with buildings fast enough yet.. 3.5 hours to practice!
Increase your apm!
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Is there any CSL admin online, im trying to find one for my school's match but no manager is online, nor is the other team
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On November 09 2009 02:33 Xeris wrote:
I'll stream if you fools want :D
come to channel at 8 pm est 
<3 boes
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On November 09 2009 06:17 GT.Eleven wrote:
i can't spell "ppp" with buildings fast enough yet.. 3.5 hours to practice!
I'll hopefully have time to show you before you begin... I've been getting practice doing it off of Ideas anyway...
BY THE WAY: Ideas is still dodging our BO7 ZvZ. Hopefully we can get that streamed eventually...
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On November 09 2009 08:40 Ideas wrote:
you dodged me twice
i dont know what this is about, but you dodge way more than ross does
when can we see this bo7 zvz???
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going live in T-minus 2-3 mins
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my dick is, well, you know
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Tuning in, make it worth my while!
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For anyone who missed out - check my On-Demand section! I've added the match
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GG's
Like I said in channel during a game, the freshmen ate all the Oreo's. Next time we meet, I will make sure to hide them.
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Each of those games were really tense and fun to watch. GGs yo
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ggs gtech
big shoutout to my dearest friend duran for streaming and casting
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The more important note:
Ideas 4-1 GT.hasuprotoss
I fail at ZvZ apparently... 
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All three games were really great. I'm glad I hung out w/ the Duke crowd today
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On November 09 2009 12:32 StarN wrote:All three games were really great. I'm glad I hung out w/ the Duke crowd today
<3 Chillin' with the greatest
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gg guys. see you in play offs hopefully. we'll hide the oreos this time
The more important note:
Ideas 4-1 GT.hasuprotoss
I fail at ZvZ apparently...
i was rooting for you
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watched the games, Duke is really freaking good. As the favorite to win the league already, I wonder how many games total they're going to drop this season.
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xeris when you streamed was there a delay between actual play time and broadcast? i.e. was it live?
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nope, he was in the game with us streaming
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after some persuasion, you damn tightwads!
<3
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uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated
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On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated
That's what we were worried about too.
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On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated That's what we were worried about too.
There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo.
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On November 09 2009 15:47 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated That's what we were worried about too. There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo.
Yeah. I'm glad that the games turned out well. They were all great.
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On November 08 2009 01:37 hazelynut wrote:
- There are rumors among all the coordinators that the East Conference was cursed by two incredibly stacked teams in the south. Please confirm or disavow these rumors for us.
▲ It’s true, Emory and ourselves are pretty strong teams this season.
Emory's not that strong.
+ Show Spoiler +I mean, they did lose to New River. :D + Show Spoiler +Okay, okay, it was a technicality, but we still won!
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On November 09 2009 16:00 vAltyR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2009 01:37 hazelynut wrote:
- There are rumors among all the coordinators that the East Conference was cursed by two incredibly stacked teams in the south. Please confirm or disavow these rumors for us.
▲ It’s true, Emory and ourselves are pretty strong teams this season.
Emory's not that strong. + Show Spoiler +I mean, they did lose to New River. :D + Show Spoiler +Okay, okay, it was a technicality, but we still won!
I should have known this kind of crap was coming and not let Pride.. forfeit and not play in the ACE match................
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EDIT: wrong thread
Duke is just sick stacked.
gonna be an awesome finals this season
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On November 09 2009 16:43 ziz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 16:00 vAltyR wrote:On November 08 2009 01:37 hazelynut wrote:
- There are rumors among all the coordinators that the East Conference was cursed by two incredibly stacked teams in the south. Please confirm or disavow these rumors for us.
▲ It’s true, Emory and ourselves are pretty strong teams this season.
Emory's not that strong. + Show Spoiler +I mean, they did lose to New River. :D + Show Spoiler +Okay, okay, it was a technicality, but we still won! I should have known this kind of crap was coming and not let Pride.. forfeit and not play in the ACE match................
It's all in good fun. I admit you would have beaten us if you had played that game.
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I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)
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ALL of the Duke guys cheated!!!!
HAXXXXXXX
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btw in my interview i mean to say your_killer is awesome, not attackzerg LOL
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On November 08 2009 01:37 hazelynut wrote:
- Who do you think will make the finals from the West Conference, and how do you think Georgia Tech would fare against them?
▲ I haven’t really paid much attention to other divisions but I would say UT. They were great last year and it looks like they’re just as good this year, plus AttackZerg is a great guy.
WTF OZZIE
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On November 09 2009 15:47 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated That's what we were worried about too. There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo.
Yes I know, but something like delaying the stream by 15 or 30 minutes reduces the possibility of cheating by a lot, while still allowing for a stream.
Some cheating may be unintentional, i.e. the team watching in the same room as the player playing, and the sound is on. Even if the player doesn't want to cheat, he'll still hear stuff, and it's hard to ignore "OMG OMG PROXY RAX" when you hear it.
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On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X)
I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.
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On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps.
I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing
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On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 15:47 DarthThienAn wrote:On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated That's what we were worried about too. There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo. Yes I know, but something like delaying the stream by 15 or 30 minutes reduces the possibility of cheating by a lot, while still allowing for a stream. Some cheating may be unintentional, i.e. the team watching in the same room as the player playing, and the sound is on. Even if the player doesn't want to cheat, he'll still hear stuff, and it's hard to ignore "OMG OMG PROXY RAX" when you hear it.
a delay of like 2 or 3 minutes would probably be enough. The main problem here is actually figuring out how to delay the stream through livestream
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On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing
I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked.
In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.
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On November 10 2009 14:01 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 15:47 DarthThienAn wrote:On November 09 2009 15:16 SilverskY wrote:On November 09 2009 14:56 LeoTheLion wrote:
uhh, isn't that kind of retarded? what if people viewed stream and cheated That's what we were worried about too. There's always a possibility of cheating. There are things we can't stop, and I think this was definitely a matchup worth live streaming for the CSL fans. Our hope is that people are above cheating and respect themselves, their opponents, and the league enough to not resort to something like that.. It'd be the same as a hacker imo. Yes I know, but something like delaying the stream by 15 or 30 minutes reduces the possibility of cheating by a lot, while still allowing for a stream. Some cheating may be unintentional, i.e. the team watching in the same room as the player playing, and the sound is on. Even if the player doesn't want to cheat, he'll still hear stuff, and it's hard to ignore "OMG OMG PROXY RAX" when you hear it. a delay of like 2 or 3 minutes would probably be enough. The main problem here is actually figuring out how to delay the stream through livestream
If player A takes a hidden expo, player B may never find that expo in a game. But if the commentator says "A is taking an expo at 7!!!" three minutes later B hears it and recalls to 7.
Best case scenario is if games are cast after they are completed.
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On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked. In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc.
They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.
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Leo you need learn to trust people a little more man lol
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On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked. In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc. They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.
there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays.
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On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked. In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc. They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something. there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays.
I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all....
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On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked. In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc. They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something.
The point is, that wasn't practical at that moment because there were already 100 people in the channel. Sure in the future it can be worked out so this is no problem, but for that time it wasn't very efficient.
Plus, people likely wouldn't cheat.
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On November 10 2009 15:09 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked. In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc. They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something. there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays. I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all....
there was no reason to create more potential problems when you could have watched the stream, just like we were
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On November 10 2009 15:13 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 15:09 Ideas wrote:On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked. In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc. They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something. there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays. I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all.... there was no reason to create more potential problems when you could have watched the stream, just like we were
that's your opinion but it doesn't give you the right to kick our ob out without discussion
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+ the first game was completely lag free and there was no reason to believe that the 2nd game would of been any different.
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The main reason why that happened was because our first CSL. We wanted to obs Nony play but one of the CSL admins stated that there were no obs allowed in any of our games.
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On November 10 2009 15:15 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2009 15:13 OneOther wrote:On November 10 2009 15:09 Ideas wrote:On November 10 2009 15:04 OneOther wrote:On November 10 2009 14:36 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 10 2009 14:31 Xeris wrote:On November 10 2009 12:58 Empyrean wrote:On November 10 2009 12:49 LeoTheLion wrote:On November 09 2009 22:38 StarN wrote:
I can vouch for them, none of the Duke guys cheated. (and I go to UNC :X) I didn't say Duke or GT cheated. I'm just saying that it might be a better idea to have a delayed stream, or to even cast the reps. I pushed for this but Xeris kept on PMSing I pushed for people to remove the sticks from their anuses, and it worked. In the future though, we'll coordinate these big matches so that we can get a delay. Although at the time, it'd be really annoying to 100 people on my stream to watch me sit in the channel for 20 mins waiting for a game to be played, etc. They don't have to watch you for 20 min waiting in channel. Just say stream starts 30 minutes after the matches start. Until then just play a vod or something. there was trust between our teams. i know how much cooler it is to watch the games live than watch delayed replays. I kinda got the feeling you guys didn't trust us at all. What with cameron kicking our ob out of the match and then starting it immediately after and all.... there was no reason to create more potential problems when you could have watched the stream, just like we were that's your opinion but it doesn't give you the right to kick our ob out without discussion
are you actually still bitching about that? the player didn't want obs and he asked about five times to leave politely (actually kicked him once). he came back and wouldn't even respond to the player. if there's a stream, which already creates possibilities of cheating, we are not going to an obs in when the player doesn't want it. and how does first game being lagless mean the second game will be the same? it's two different players lol. and there was no obs in the first game either besides duran.
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and no that's not just my opinion.
1) increases the likelihood of cheating
2) might lag up the game
watching a *live* stream instead of obbing is something you guys are gonna have to learn to deal with. or at least not whine about it.
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http://www.cstarleague.com/rules/
Gameplay rules
-Only players, commentators, and one observer per team are allowed in game. Observers and commentators can be asked to leave if there are latency issues.
if any team wanted to cheat they would have viewed it live and told the player what was going on.. no need for an obs to cheat if they really wanted to cheat their way into victory. but it's all good I'd rather play without obs if that'll create any doubt on our opponents' minds that we might cheat.
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Well the games were legit, and they all turned out great. I dun think there's any point arguing over this now.
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It's the player's priority whether they want obs or not. The player doesn't have to accept obs , and in that case neither side gets one. The rule might be a little unclear, but it basically means that the option is available if both sides are amenable.
I don't really know why your admin said no obs were allowed O_O unless the other team refused?
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On November 10 2009 15:30 SilverskY wrote:
Well the games were legit, and they all turned out great. I dun think there's any point arguing over this now.
true that. i mean our team prepared some cheese builds against the better lineup of yours(altho they failed T- T) I was actually happy we didn't have any obs to lag my marine micro(which also failed btw). (sorry ozzie =P)
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I really should be studying for my exam that's in 10 hours. I haven't studied yet..
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United States10774 Posts
i don't understand why you guys *insisted* (as in ignoring the player multiple times and re-joining when kicked) on having an obs in there when the player strongly didn't want one. he would have certainly allowed it if it weren't being livestreamed. after all, the players are the ones playing the game and it should be up to them whether they want obs or not. everyone should give them the respect of following their preference. one of your members joining the game over and over while ignoring the player was not cool.
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United States10774 Posts
having said that,
On November 10 2009 15:30 SilverskY wrote:
Well the games were legit, and they all turned out great. I dun think there's any point arguing over this now.
this man speaks the truth. we had a blast and the games were entertaining as well.
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whoa, i didn't mean to start a bitchfest.
as long as streams in the future take into the consideration of game integrity, i'm happy. otherwise, one side may have an unfair advantage, even if unintentional. it's like that time when the air force had its first sc match because boxer joined, and boxer told the commentator to shut up because he could hear him. boxer's opponent proxy raxed in the middle, which the commentator mentioned, and then boxer spotted it. would hate for something like that to spoil a major match.
gogo delayed stream!
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