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On October 26 2009 04:53 dukethegold wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 04:47 RamenStyle wrote:
Omg JD.... what the hell is with you? Jaedong slumping? >.< On the other hand, this thread has reached the 1000th post and over half of those posts are about one game lol. Boxer is magical.
its not that he's slumping he's still good as ever.
his first loss to hyuk showed that he doesn't slump
he just keeps getting outplayed and this is exactly why jaedong will never get the BONJWA title
you see "flash build" and "bisu build" but there's no "jaedong build." bisu and flash are doing great JD is still sucking right now
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On October 27 2009 04:35 Nal_rAwr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 04:53 dukethegold wrote:On October 26 2009 04:47 RamenStyle wrote:
Omg JD.... what the hell is with you? Jaedong slumping? >.< On the other hand, this thread has reached the 1000th post and over half of those posts are about one game lol. Boxer is magical. its not that he's slumping he's still good as ever. his first loss to hyuk showed that he doesn't slump he just keeps getting outplayed and this is exactly why jaedong will never get the BONJWA title you see "flash build" and "bisu build" but there's no "jaedong build." bisu and flash are doing great JD is still sucking right now
5 hatch is JD's build afaik.
And what's wrong with you? JD has four SL titles more than Flash or Bisu (as much as both together). Jaedong sure doesn't suck.
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On October 27 2009 04:35 Nal_rAwr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 04:53 dukethegold wrote:On October 26 2009 04:47 RamenStyle wrote:
Omg JD.... what the hell is with you? Jaedong slumping? >.< On the other hand, this thread has reached the 1000th post and over half of those posts are about one game lol. Boxer is magical. its not that he's slumping he's still good as ever. his first loss to hyuk showed that he doesn't slump he just keeps getting outplayed and this is exactly why jaedong will never get the BONJWA title you see "flash build" and "bisu build" but there's no "jaedong build." bisu and flash are doing great JD is still sucking right now
Wtf? :s
Clueless.
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On October 27 2009 04:35 Nal_rAwr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 04:53 dukethegold wrote:On October 26 2009 04:47 RamenStyle wrote:
Omg JD.... what the hell is with you? Jaedong slumping? >.< On the other hand, this thread has reached the 1000th post and over half of those posts are about one game lol. Boxer is magical. its not that he's slumping he's still good as ever. his first loss to hyuk showed that he doesn't slump he just keeps getting outplayed and this is exactly why jaedong will never get the BONJWA title you see "flash build" and "bisu build" but there's no "jaedong build." bisu and flash are doing great JD is still sucking right now
Urg ... but neither Bisu nor Flash has stare that melts metal ...
And Jaedong is still the favorite against anyone except for Bisu, Flash (it would be 50-50) and of course, Hyuk.
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Jaedong is without shadow of doubt the best, most skillful, talented and charismatic player of all time right behind Boxer, Nada, oov, savior and Bisu
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On October 27 2009 05:34 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is without shadow of doubt the best, most skillful, talented and charismatic player of all time right behind Boxer, Nada, oov, savior and Bisu
He aint charismatic. Everything else fine, but not showing emotion != charisma.
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On October 27 2009 05:40 m3rciless wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 05:34 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is without shadow of doubt the best, most skillful, talented and charismatic player of all time right behind Boxer, Nada, oov, savior and Bisu He aint charismatic. Everything else fine, but not showing emotion != charisma.
He still is charismatic.
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On October 27 2009 05:40 m3rciless wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 05:34 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is without shadow of doubt the best, most skillful, talented and charismatic player of all time right behind Boxer, Nada, oov, savior and Bisu He aint charismatic. Everything else fine, but not showing emotion != charisma.
i strongly disagree
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103006
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for the boxer v killer game, does anyone know why Killer didn't build any mutalisks? Seemed like a bit of mutalisk harass might have done killer some good... i have no clue though since i'm a d---- terran, but i'm just curious if anyone has the reason for that.
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On October 27 2009 05:57 neutralstate wrote:
for the boxer v killer game, does anyone know why Killer didn't build any mutalisks? Seemed like a bit of mutalisk harass might have done killer some good... i have no clue though since i'm a d---- terran, but i'm just curious if anyone has the reason for that.
I'm not sure either but my guess is because of how quick Boxer went for his starport Killer probably thought Boxer would have valks/wraiths really quick to counter the mutas.
Killer did go scrouges to stop the wraiths tho
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On October 27 2009 05:57 neutralstate wrote:
for the boxer v killer game, does anyone know why Killer didn't build any mutalisks? Seemed like a bit of mutalisk harass might have done killer some good... i have no clue though since i'm a d---- terran, but i'm just curious if anyone has the reason for that.
Boxer's build did initially resemble the Fantasy build for fast Valkyrie. Killer scouted the starport and probably decided to skip mutalisks due to that.
Boxer's mind game is top-tier.
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On October 27 2009 05:57 neutralstate wrote:
for the boxer v killer game, does anyone know why Killer didn't build any mutalisks? Seemed like a bit of mutalisk harass might have done killer some good... i have no clue though since i'm a d---- terran, but i'm just curious if anyone has the reason for that.
My guess would be that the 2 hatch hydra set him back economically so much that he reached a point later in the game where if he went mutalisks as soon as possible, they would be out too late to do any real damage against a Terran at that time (due to the expected turret/mnm count of that player and his ability to bolster it).
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I heard that 2 hatch muta is strong on this map, anyone confirm/deny?
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On October 27 2009 05:40 m3rciless wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 05:34 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is without shadow of doubt the best, most skillful, talented and charismatic player of all time right behind Boxer, Nada, oov, savior and Bisu He aint charismatic. Everything else fine, but not showing emotion != charisma.
How is angry not an emotion? ...
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HOW DID THIS LR THREAD DEGRADE INTO A JD-BONJWA THREAD?! T_T
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Because of people who like to make pointless posts in capslock and the like. You know how it goes...
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On October 27 2009 05:40 m3rciless wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 05:34 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is without shadow of doubt the best, most skillful, talented and charismatic player of all time right behind Boxer, Nada, oov, savior and Bisu He aint charismatic. Everything else fine, but not showing emotion != charisma.
I agree with this. JD doesn't have the same level of charisma that Boxer/Oov do. The others (Nada/Savior/Bisu or JD) don't have nearly the same ability to work a crowd IMO. What wooing they do is based on their name/following, not because of anything special they do... then again, I don't speak Korean so I could be way off. 
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On October 27 2009 04:35 Nal_rAwr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2009 04:53 dukethegold wrote:On October 26 2009 04:47 RamenStyle wrote:
Omg JD.... what the hell is with you? Jaedong slumping? >.< On the other hand, this thread has reached the 1000th post and over half of those posts are about one game lol. Boxer is magical. its not that he's slumping he's still good as ever. his first loss to hyuk showed that he doesn't slump he just keeps getting outplayed and this is exactly why jaedong will never get the BONJWA title you see "flash build" and "bisu build" but there's no "jaedong build." bisu and flash are doing great JD is still sucking right now
even as a bisu and flash fanboy i gotta disagree strongly. jd is not in the form of his life right now, but neither is bisu. and jd doesnt suck just because he lost a game to hyuk... my god, dont forget how volatile and unpredictable zvz is. jds zvz dominance has suffered recently, but he still is the dominator of this mu. and lets be honest: even if he had won it wouldnt have changed the outcome. boxer and bisu raped their opponents so hard that even the oz bench got mentally destroyed by it. no way for lomo to beat fantasy, one of the best tvt´ers, under these premises. and even with a jd win and that win, it still would have gone to ace against bisu/fantasy, so that its pretty much a tossup.
even if jd hadnt lost to hyuk, oz´s chances would have been at around 10% or even less...
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Jaedong's apparent "slump" comes from the fact that he hasn't played a Bo5 since OSL finals.
Bisu and Flash had better overall statistics, IIRC, from the 2008-2009 season. Them outperforming him in 1v1 games is no surprise. Jaedong's specialty has always been dominating Bo5s.
Wait till MSL and OSL start picking up to Bo5s again. Then we'll see some Jaedong domination.
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On October 27 2009 05:47 never_toss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2009 05:40 m3rciless wrote:On October 27 2009 05:34 disciple wrote:
Jaedong is without shadow of doubt the best, most skillful, talented and charismatic player of all time right behind Boxer, Nada, oov, savior and Bisu He aint charismatic. Everything else fine, but not showing emotion != charisma. i strongly disagree http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103006
JDs neck is ridiculous
i have to say it everytime i see it
it's monstrous
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