I...voted for Kwanro. Ugh, I feel all dirty. I too want to see Stork vs Skyhigh, here's hoping that Skyhigh will be his harass game. And uh ggaemo...just don't look really bad, okay?
The Twin Cannons need to fire here, here's hoping ggaemo doesn't upset Skyhigh, show's how imba ZvP is when I'm not worried about the borderline S-Class T but the Z B-Teamer is a potential worry .
barracks seems to be holding off jangbi well though....there is a chance he can win is it me or does barracks look like some korean actor i cant rmember who...
On October 21 2009 17:42 MuffinDude wrote: god how is barracks winning now -_-
like i said jangbi even things out after killing those tanks with that sick storm BUT he needed to expo or kill barrack's expos to stay in the game - he did a fail recall
On October 21 2009 17:43 HopLight wrote: So... Barracks is apparently pretty good at macro. Supply evened out again though. So hard to tell who's winning!
even supply = terran winning
barracks still has 3k in the bank, jangbi mass epxanding - barracks just shutting them all down now
On October 21 2009 17:43 HopLight wrote: So... Barracks is apparently pretty good at macro. Supply evened out again though. So hard to tell who's winning!
even supply = terran winning
barracks still has 3k in the bank, jangbi mass epxanding - barracks just shutting them all down now
Yeah, but at one point Barracks was like 180vs100 in supply, and still lost all his units. Now he's near mined out.
man jangbi really should have tried recalling all those zealots onto the tanks rather than charging the sieged position from the front, half his stasises were making walls against himself
This map seems a bit hard to pvt in since the expansions have little min and requires the p player to expand a lot, its hard to defend all expansions and you saw how jangbi had to spend like 600 min per base on cannons.
On October 21 2009 17:53 MuffinDude wrote: How did jangbi lose the last game though? Did his macro just die on him because he did rape a lot of tanks and all.
aside from the poor micro compared to game 1, I think he just threw alot of units away
i think that jangbi has this easily. barracks was ready for a counterattack reaver push, and he's got a wraith...which will do nothing against the eight goons that jangbi has
On October 21 2009 18:03 iG.SwOrD wrote: Game looked promising with the proxy fac but it turned as a sad rape for Barracks. Better luck next time
one mistake was that he went 2 fac, proxy fac, but he only had one vulture going in to attack and jangbi with some nice micro diffused mines and killed the vulture with one goon and a shuttle. Then the push, barracks just failed, he lost all his units and only killed like 4 goons. Then barracks got no aa and jangbi took the game with just speedshuttle micro from hell.
On October 21 2009 18:04 okum wrote: Sorry Rax, but you don't deserve to be in an OSL if you can't control one proxy vulture.
or wait two seconds for the second one to come in, so that the first can be at least twice as effective
But jangbi was going to see the vulture camping out his base with his zealot and jangbi could of blocked choke with his goon, so rax should of hid his vulture better and attacked with 2 vulture. most fail attempt at proxy rax.
Bad execution by Barracks lost him the game really early on. Too bad. I often do the exact same build as he did in this game; I got annoyed by having to put up with early goon pressure in every game and decided to design a build to punish the fuckers for it. It often fails just as bad as it did for Barracks here. :D When it works, though, it's hilarious.
On October 21 2009 18:03 iG.SwOrD wrote: Game looked promising with the proxy fac but it turned as a sad rape for Barracks. Better luck next time
one mistake was that he went 2 fac, proxy fac, but he only had one vulture going in to attack and jangbi with some nice micro diffused mines and killed the vulture with one goon and a shuttle. Then the push, barracks just failed, he lost all his units and only killed like 4 goons. Then barracks got no aa and jangbi took the game with just speedshuttle micro from hell.
On October 21 2009 18:04 okum wrote: Sorry Rax, but you don't deserve to be in an OSL if you can't control one proxy vulture.
or wait two seconds for the second one to come in, so that the first can be at least twice as effective
But jangbi was going to see the vulture camping out his base with his zealot and jangbi could of blocked choke with his goon, so rax should of hid his vulture better and attacked with 2 vulture. most fail attempt at proxy rax.
Should have done a boxer and mined up one of the ridges so that went jangbi retreated over the ridge we saw explosions
On October 21 2009 18:03 iG.SwOrD wrote: Game looked promising with the proxy fac but it turned as a sad rape for Barracks. Better luck next time
one mistake was that he went 2 fac, proxy fac, but he only had one vulture going in to attack and jangbi with some nice micro diffused mines and killed the vulture with one goon and a shuttle. Then the push, barracks just failed, he lost all his units and only killed like 4 goons. Then barracks got no aa and jangbi took the game with just speedshuttle micro from hell.
On October 21 2009 18:05 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On October 21 2009 18:04 okum wrote: Sorry Rax, but you don't deserve to be in an OSL if you can't control one proxy vulture.
or wait two seconds for the second one to come in, so that the first can be at least twice as effective
But jangbi was going to see the vulture camping out his base with his zealot and jangbi could of blocked choke with his goon, so rax should of hid his vulture better and attacked with 2 vulture. most fail attempt at proxy rax.
Should have done a boxer and mined up one of the ridges so that went jangbi retreated over the ridge we saw explosions
On October 21 2009 18:03 iG.SwOrD wrote: Game looked promising with the proxy fac but it turned as a sad rape for Barracks. Better luck next time
one mistake was that he went 2 fac, proxy fac, but he only had one vulture going in to attack and jangbi with some nice micro diffused mines and killed the vulture with one goon and a shuttle. Then the push, barracks just failed, he lost all his units and only killed like 4 goons. Then barracks got no aa and jangbi took the game with just speedshuttle micro from hell.
On October 21 2009 18:05 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On October 21 2009 18:04 okum wrote: Sorry Rax, but you don't deserve to be in an OSL if you can't control one proxy vulture.
or wait two seconds for the second one to come in, so that the first can be at least twice as effective
But jangbi was going to see the vulture camping out his base with his zealot and jangbi could of blocked choke with his goon, so rax should of hid his vulture better and attacked with 2 vulture. most fail attempt at proxy rax.
Should have done a boxer and mined up one of the ridges so that went jangbi retreated over the ridge we saw explosions
On October 21 2009 18:04 RamenStyle wrote: Perfect Toss vs Suicidal Zerg next.
Is JangBi called the Perfect Toss?
Well, his more common nicknames are Heo Neu Nim in reference to the Korean word Ha Neu Nim (God as in the Christian one), and The Allmighty, but during the Six Dragons era he was referenced sometimes as 완벽토스, which rawly translates into Flawless/Perfect Toss.
well jangbi probably was afraid of a five pool, so he had to send out two probes anyway. He was also betting that his probe micro was better than kwanro, and 2 probes with a 12 nex is somewhat close to 1 drone lost with a 12 hat.
jangbi's probably not that far behind, and it was worth it to make sure that kwanro was playing somewhat standard.
although it means that jangbi is going to end up losing 3 probes if kwanro dosen't do antyhing too irregular
I don't know if they ever practised against each other when he was on CJ, but if they did, can you imagine how often Idra would feel the urge to write ''fucking skilless newbie'' and ''you win by doing stupid shit'' to Kwanro? :D
On October 21 2009 18:32 Hot_Bid wrote: this build by jangbi is called "FE into build time machine and travel to 2007 where kwanro has no idea how to deal with sair dt"
kwanro has been able to rebuild his drone numbers back up to reasonable levels, which means that jangbi needs to start killing more drones/expansions, and stop worrying about killing units so much.
ninja lurker dropped for kwanro, that has a few probe kills at jangbi's expansion
Wow, this storm on scourges looked nice. Again powerful storms vs lurkers and Kwanro loses nat. But JB doesn't mine at 3 since he has lurkers in min. line
Is that Jangbi's worst game ever? I haven't seen that many, but damn that was such a shame for him to lose after those awesome plays at the start... god that sucked for him. Some of those storms were beautiful though.
On October 21 2009 18:32 Hot_Bid wrote: this build by jangbi is called "FE into build time machine and travel to 2007 where kwanro has no idea how to deal with sair dt"
clearly, hallucinated DA's in time machines next pvz metagame shift.
On October 21 2009 18:48 Duckvillelol wrote: Is that Jangbi's worst game ever? I haven't seen that many, but damn that was such a shame for him to lose after those awesome plays at the start... god that sucked for him. Some of those storms were beautiful though.
I just can't believe he lost the game after all those dt kills and all those beautiful storms. His macro just suked.
On October 21 2009 18:44 MuffinDude wrote: it feels like jangbi's macro is seriously lacking
This. He was reinforcing really slowly with three working bases. He was also too indecisive going into Kwanro's nat and main when he clearly had the advantage.
He always seemed to lack archons after the storms to stop lings from just running his goons over. Entertaining game; I find myself strangely depressed at the outcome.
You guys have high standards kwanro did a great job hanging on and he was behind for soo much of that game. He did show some competence in the matchup imo. Jangbi's storms were amazing as usual, but he wasted so many units when he had the lead. Kwanro played a really clever zerg from about halfway through to the end and showed exactly why Z>P at the moment.
I didn't see the beginning but it looks like Kwanro's hidden expansion gave him the economic advantage he needed to win. Despite losing drones to dts/units, he had a full expansion and 2 hatches of production that Jangbi didn't know about early on. Jangbi kept suiciding units at the well-defended natural while the 3rd was built up. With better scouting, Jangbi could've destroyed this base and only through that would he gain the econ advantage, he was behind Kwanro in econ the whole game.
Anyone watch Day9's commentary about Bisu and Shine on this map. I thought Jangbi did a good job exploiting the long distances between the zerg expos with decent army movement. Its too bad he couldn't macro or take more expos.
On October 21 2009 18:48 Duckvillelol wrote: Is that Jangbi's worst game ever? I haven't seen that many, but damn that was such a shame for him to lose after those awesome plays at the start... god that sucked for him. Some of those storms were beautiful though.
I just can't believe he lost the game after all those dt kills and all those beautiful storms. His macro just suked.
jangbi did well that game...the only thing that killed him was the crackling injustice. its just not fuckin fair that a protoss has to spend a shit load of resources to defend his bases--at least 5 cannons, robo bay + reavers, 1 or more HT to storm. jangbi lost because he didnt pour his entire bank into defending, even though he butt raped and bitch slapped kwanro all game long. any1 that thinks this is completely fair and balanced is kidding themselves, period.
The number of times Kwanro has managed to Cannon-break or runby against Stork and Jangbi is simply unbelievable.
I will never forget the FOUR consecutive games Kwanro managed to do a Cannon-break against Stork earlier this year in MSL/PL (and Kwanro somehow managed to lose two of those games too)
Once again that just seemed very amateurish from Jangbi there... let the lings in and either wasn't watching properly to block... or didn't do it well enough :S
He saw the lings coming and cannoned to defend but wow he still let them through :S
But back on the game before, I concur Jangbi's macro was lacking, while attacking his 6 and 3 expo's only had 3 cannons, isn't it standard to put about 5/6 minimum at that point of the game?
that was just very bad decision making. If kwanro bothered to make more lings, he could've easily surrounded and killed those cannons. I don't know why you'd leave the entrance to your base so open like that.
Protoss should stop doind this, it's like if zerg would 2hatch muta every single game in zvt, zerg will rape your current fe stuff. 1st game Jangbi had a crapload of hts loaded with storms and kwanro had nothing and was getting wrecked and still won because he had time to grow huge. It just seems sair tech is a waste now, zerg has no problem losing ols and dealing with it overall. Ptoross refuse to cheese, use timing attacks and do something unexpected. Backho proved, even the silliest stuff will work if unexpected, zerg is too prepared to deal with the standard.
He should have just kept 4/5 probes at ramp seeing he is mass lings and when makes a zealot to pull of 2-3 probes..he was just acting dumb and greedy moving the probes off
Why everyone bashing Kwanro when they should be bashing Jangbi?
Jangbi played like absolute garbage - it's hard to believe this guy was arguably the #1 player in the world at one point less than one year ago. Once upon a time you saw your favorite player was playing Jangbi and you thought "oh shoot, this is going to be hard". Now he is seriously terrible.
On October 21 2009 19:03 iRRelevance wrote: PHUCK, I HATE KWANRO !!! Look at his face .... LOOK AT IT !!! But yea, Jangbi was awful. WTF MAN MAKE A FKN ZEALOT !!
On October 21 2009 19:05 darktreb wrote: Why everyone bashing Kwanro when they should be bashing Jangbi?
Jangbi played like absolute garbage - it's hard to believe this guy was arguably the #1 player in the world at one point less than one year ago. Once upon a time you saw your favorite player was playing Jangbi and you thought "oh shoot, this is going to be hard". Now he is seriously terrible.
interview "so kwanro how did u prepare today" "i practiced making many lings and a-moving a lot. since i know cracklings are imbalanced, i wanted to play mind games on my opponent by letting him kill 30+ drones of mine in order for him to think he could win. then i practiced on harassing a lot, so droping 1 lurker behind the mineral lines around minute 30 or so. oh and for game 2, i wanna thank all of those in iccup who taught me how to do a ling run by. i will try my best to get to the finals again only to get raped again."
The first map is hell of imba, like harmony. Protoss expansion goes down quickly in different directions, even if he is losing, sending a few speed lings in different directions to take down nexus is enough. Not to mention the choke is able to stop the whole protoss army.
On October 21 2009 19:09 Baddieko wrote: The first map is hell of imba, like harmony. Protoss expansion goes down quickly in different directions, even if he is losing, sending a few speed lings in different directions to take down nexus is enough. Not to mention the choke is able to stop the whole protoss army.
Jangbi could've easily had at least one HT at 6 to prevent a couple of lings from taking down the entire expo...
On October 21 2009 19:00 darktreb wrote: ahahahahaha I cannot BELIEVE Kwanro ever wins but he just finds a way
it's like progamers are like "he can't possibly be THAT aggressive" it's just ridiculous
Agreed. It seems like they overestimate him by underestimating him. Or the opposite. Wtf?
they underestimate him by overestimating his sense for safety or in other words: they underestimate him by simply underestimating his passion for aggression.
On October 21 2009 19:09 Baddieko wrote: The first map is hell of imba, like harmony. Protoss expansion goes down quickly in different directions, even if he is losing, sending a few speed lings in different directions to take down nexus is enough. Not to mention the choke is able to stop the whole protoss army.
That may be true but Jangbi's lack of understanding in PvZ really showed through. Of course as a progamer he knows what he's doing but he at the pro level the difference in what decisions you make. Jangbi made the wrong decision over and over again to reinforce his army instead of his expansions, which turned out to be a disaster as he lost 6 o'clock a couple times to virtually zero cost (just a bunch of lings each time). He definitely could have held 6 if he really wanted to.
In that game Jangbi got to storm all he wanted - Kwanro never even made a Muta, and Jangbi also killed like 30 Drones. Bisu or even Kal/Movie would never have lost that.
On October 21 2009 19:09 UGC4 wrote: interview "so kwanro how did u prepare today" "i practiced making many lings and a-moving a lot. since i know cracklings are imbalanced, i wanted to play mind games on my opponent by letting him kill 30+ drones of mine in order for him to think he could win. then i practiced on harassing a lot, so droping 1 lurker behind the mineral lines around minute 30 or so. oh and for game 2, i wanna thank all of those in iccup who taught me how to do a ling run by. i will try my best to get to the finals again only to get raped again."
On October 21 2009 19:05 darktreb wrote: Why everyone bashing Kwanro when they should be bashing Jangbi?
Jangbi played like absolute garbage - it's hard to believe this guy was arguably the #1 player in the world at one point less than one year ago. Once upon a time you saw your favorite player was playing Jangbi and you thought "oh shoot, this is going to be hard". Now he is seriously terrible.
was actually the PR-writer that hyped him up tremendusly. He played some better games, back then, but he never was a monster tbh.
On October 21 2009 19:09 Baddieko wrote: The first map is hell of imba, like harmony. Protoss expansion goes down quickly in different directions, even if he is losing, sending a few speed lings in different directions to take down nexus is enough. Not to mention the choke is able to stop the whole protoss army.
Jangbi could've easily had at least one HT at 6 to prevent a couple of lings from taking down the entire expo...
Sair/dt and couple of dts on the choke is good. The lings keep rallying making it really difficult.
On October 21 2009 19:11 disciple wrote: And do you guys know why Pusan is in the Ro16?
because he is made of AWESOME?
yes he is. but in all honestly, it was because there were no zerg in his group. proof? he just lost a pvz in hbr against calm i believe...bisu and jangbi lost to a zerg. pusan had 2 terrans and if ggaemo beats skyhigh (unlikely) i wouldnt be surprised if stork lost to ggaemo too. grrrr so annoying to see zerg noobs move up...kwanro and shine u gotta be kidding me T_T
On October 21 2009 19:05 darktreb wrote: Why everyone bashing Kwanro when they should be bashing Jangbi?
Jangbi played like absolute garbage - it's hard to believe this guy was arguably the #1 player in the world at one point less than one year ago. Once upon a time you saw your favorite player was playing Jangbi and you thought "oh shoot, this is going to be hard". Now he is seriously terrible.
was actually the PR-writer that hyped him up tremendusly. He played some better games, back then, but he never was a monster tbh.
What he made 3 finals (two MSL and GOM) in a span of like 3 months. He was clearly a top 5 player at one point and there was a point in time where he was the favorite against anyone other than Bisu and Jaedong (maybe not even Jaedong). It feels like forever ago but this was around the time when Jaedong got eliminated from leagues by Free and TEMPEST.
Jangbi's PvZ was never great, that much is true. But like for instance the PR where Leta was #1, Jangbi deserved it much more.
Edit: I say all this as a guy who never has and never will be a fan of Jangbi. This is simply what he was like back then - scary.
As long as Protosses lose to a SPOTTED zergling runbye with enough time to prepare... They deserve to get kicked out of the leagues. As long as Protosses lose after raping 30 Drones because he's to stupid to defend his expansion... They deserve to get kicked out of the leagues.
This has nothing to do with Imba or anything.
Jangbi just played like ass.
Seriously... Maybe the fast Mutaswitch in the midgame to snipe tempalrs is a bit to strong... But it's not like suddenly everything Zerg does since i don't know how long is imba.
On October 21 2009 19:01 Djin)ftw( wrote: gay ling allins, man this sucks
this one was fully jangbi's fault, he sees a mass of lings, has 3 canons and puts 2 probes on ramp
yet inexplicably moves the 2 probes blocking ramp back off....
In case you didn't notice, he moved the probes to protect the cannons. You can't know if the lings will attack the cannons or will move, and even kwanro didn't know. He just made the decision based on the situation at that moment.
On October 21 2009 19:11 disciple wrote: And do you guys know why Pusan is in the Ro16?
because he is made of AWESOME?
yes he is. but in all honestly, it was because there were no zerg in his group. proof? he just lost a pvz in hbr against calm i believe...bisu and jangbi lost to a zerg. pusan had 2 terrans and if ggaemo beats skyhigh (unlikely) i wouldnt be surprised if stork lost to ggaemo too. grrrr so annoying to see zerg noobs move up...kwanro and shine u gotta be kidding me T_T
He didn't lose to Calm on HBR (that was backho). Actually Pusan was the only protoss to win against the hwaseung zergs in the showmatch (vs orion). I mean his last "real" pvz was vs yarnc back in january =/.
Ok, I admit that when he transfered to Stars I thought it was going to be fun to watch him break his head running into brickwalls with no risk to CJ, but I just wish it didn't work against Jangbi.
i think kespa tries to ENFORCE having a new Emporer. bonjwas are good money, they have fans and get known to a greater audience, they are spoken about. so kespas does everything to make jaedong-favoured maps to make him the new King of Starcraft.
edit: and of course this does not only help jaedong but all the other nublet zergs also, but with a 80% win rate vs zergs this is not a real problem is it?
On October 21 2009 19:11 disciple wrote: And do you guys know why Pusan is in the Ro16?
because he is made of AWESOME?
yes he is. but in all honestly, it was because there were no zerg in his group. proof? he just lost a pvz in hbr against calm i believe...bisu and jangbi lost to a zerg. pusan had 2 terrans and if ggaemo beats skyhigh (unlikely) i wouldnt be surprised if stork lost to ggaemo too. grrrr so annoying to see zerg noobs move up...kwanro and shine u gotta be kidding me T_T
He didn't lose to Calm on HBR (that was backho). Actually Pusan was the only protoss to win against the hwaseung zergs in the showmatch (vs orion). I mean his last "real" pvz was vs yarnc back in january =/.
oops ur right completely confused him with sangho vs effort recently in PL. so much ZvP rape lately i got confused lol
On October 21 2009 19:46 29 fps wrote: skyhigh's macro was lacking. no mm army and 1k mins?
Eh I thought opposite. Skyhigh's macro was amazing throughout the game (considering the number of bases he was on). The thing that really let him down was his unit composition, decision making, and micro =/ really odd game
another game where i see zerg turtle fast hive for cracklings and before that hold out the choke. Purposely making expansions at split positions. Because the opponent's ball will be useless anyway.
On October 21 2009 19:50 Baddieko wrote: another game where i see zerg turtle fast hive for cracklings and before that hold out the choke. Purposely making expansions at split positions. Because the opponent's ball will be useless anyway.
Stick to complaining about PvZ, as you actually have merit for complaint.
On April 22 2008 13:48 Kwark wrote: So here's a random tip. If you ever see an unknown zerg named ggaemo on liquibet just vote for him. That man has sick ZvT control
Damn it, I hate when noobs just play the games of their lifes, but then that's just it, and they go back to their former sucking selves, depriving us from seeing the big whales clash.
I mean, has he done really much except that allkill and for some reason winning against often against Jaedong alltogether? Which both is not nothing , but there is probably a good reason CJ sends out Iris in PL...
If Stork gets knocked out, I think I will take a really long hiatus from SC. At least until maps change/protoss find some new builds, and I don't think that will happen anytime soon.
After looking at his rivals' downfall, Stork needs to change strategies. If he proceed on the normal macro game he gonna get raped. 1st map, 2nd map, and 3rd is heartbreak ridge. GG
On October 21 2009 19:59 Velr wrote: Probably Skyhigh was just overrated.
I mean, has he done really much except that allkill and for some reason winning against often against Jaedong alltogether? Which both is not nothing , but there is probably a good reason CJ sends out Iris in PL...
He is a beast TvT but yeah he's overrated at the moment in the other two matchups. Once upon a time he won a TvP against Best on Medusa 1.0 (yes, this was very very hard at the time) and he hasn't played too many TvPs since.
It's unfortunate because he's got a style that has a ton of potential but his TvZ simply did not look good here today.
lol Stork should convince himself he's facing JD and rape ez.
Good chance we gonna see another rape of uninspired standard fe build, though i want to believe in Stork, reavers, cheese, carriers and other stuff, he knows how to use it.
On October 21 2009 19:57 Valentine wrote: YEEEEAAAH
THAT'LL TEACH YOU FOR BEING A CJFAG. AND A BUNKER RUSHING COCKNUG
I was kind of hoping for some frenzied fanboys, guess not. Sorry I just really hate CJ and everyone who was spawned in that household. Plus the dude tried to bunker rush D:
On October 21 2009 19:59 Velr wrote: Probably Skyhigh was just overrated.
I mean, has he done really much except that allkill and for some reason winning against often against Jaedong alltogether? Which both is not nothing , but there is probably a good reason CJ sends out Iris in PL...
if by winning against jaedong you mean a 5 minute game and 7 minute game, and losing all 3 that go over 10 minutes then yes. Its all blind CJ fanboy hype, Skyhigh never really proved himself except in TvT, and that TvP series vs best, and his 12-0 offline debut, the rest is simply mediocre play from him
On April 22 2008 13:48 Kwark wrote: So here's a random tip. If you ever see an unknown zerg named ggaemo on liquibet just vote for him. That man has sick ZvT control
On October 21 2009 19:57 Valentine wrote: YEEEEAAAH
THAT'LL TEACH YOU FOR BEING A CJFAG. AND A BUNKER RUSHING COCKNUG
I was kind of hoping for some frenzied fanboys, guess not. Sorry I just really hate CJ and everyone who was spawned in that household. Plus the dude tried to bunker rush D:
All caps + insulting a progamer. Hopefully a ban.
Anyway, wtf ggaemo -_- please lose or I'll go emo after the gg.
The interesting part about brand new maps is that Stork had two matchups to prepare for on two new maps. And, his more likely potential opponent (Skyhigh) has an aggressive style.
I wonder how much PvZ Stork prepared on these maps....
On October 21 2009 19:57 Valentine wrote: YEEEEAAAH
THAT'LL TEACH YOU FOR BEING A CJFAG. AND A BUNKER RUSHING COCKNUG
I was kind of hoping for some frenzied fanboys, guess not. Sorry I just really hate CJ and everyone who was spawned in that household. Plus the dude tried to bunker rush D:
All caps + insulting a progamer. Hopefully a ban.
Anyway, wtf ggaemo -_- please lose or I'll go emo after the gg.
On October 21 2009 19:57 Valentine wrote: YEEEEAAAH
THAT'LL TEACH YOU FOR BEING A CJFAG. AND A BUNKER RUSHING COCKNUG
I was kind of hoping for some frenzied fanboys, guess not. Sorry I just really hate CJ and everyone who was spawned in that household. Plus the dude tried to bunker rush D:
All caps + insulting a progamer. Hopefully a ban.
Anyway, wtf ggaemo -_- please lose or I'll go emo after the gg.
Lol, seriously? Like, seriously?
On October 11 2009 15:33 Plexa wrote: [*]Please keep discussion civil! I don't care if Backho is a piece of shit motherfucking cocksucker who has the skills of retarded amputee with aids. That kind of language is unacceptable in LR threads and is bannable.
On October 21 2009 19:57 Valentine wrote: YEEEEAAAH
THAT'LL TEACH YOU FOR BEING A CJFAG. AND A BUNKER RUSHING COCKNUG
I was kind of hoping for some frenzied fanboys, guess not. Sorry I just really hate CJ and everyone who was spawned in that household. Plus the dude tried to bunker rush D:
All caps + insulting a progamer. Hopefully a ban.
Anyway, wtf ggaemo -_- please lose or I'll go emo after the gg.
On October 11 2009 15:33 Plexa wrote: [*]Please keep discussion civil! I don't care if Backho is a piece of shit motherfucking cocksucker who has the skills of retarded amputee with aids. That kind of language is unacceptable in LR threads and is bannable.
Ah, word. Okay I'll not post like that anymore, my bad. Temp ban if needed yo.
On October 21 2009 19:17 greenwhiteheart wrote: Anyone knows whats that song in the very begining, before they show the players?
Welcome to the masquerade by Thousand Foot Krutch
Thanks mate.
Also is the stream dead or is that just my bad net?
Anyone have a clue as to the actual 'game entry' song is?
E for Extinction - Thousand Foot Krutch
Oh haha thanks, high five aussies
(I JUST BOUGHT KANGAROO STEAKS FROM COLES FOR DINNER TOMORROW - LULZ)
On topic - cmerrrrn STORKUUU
No problem :D, check top left (featured threads) for the All-Time Pro Scene Music thread, with updates by the week of current music. Good if you can't find a song.
it was painful to watch seriously. ggaemo played so bad and without any conception. he deserved to lose that game. hope we'll see a better game in the 2nd. Go Stork btw ~~
There's a reason every other zerg makes a wall at his nat and puts a few hydra behind it ggaemo. It's so he doesn't get zealot rolled the moment speed comes out.
Yes this is how toss is supposed to be played. Make assasin attacks and herassments multiple places, then the zerg is bound to slip up somewhere. And if he dosent, that just means he is better than you.
On October 21 2009 20:40 Ota Solgryn wrote: Yes this is how toss is supposed to be played. Make assasin attacks and herassments multiple places, then the zerg is bound to slip up somewhere. And if he dosent, that just means he is better than you.
Ever since the Fall of Bisu in this OSL, people have been calling you the 'Last Hope' How do you feel about the recent PvZ?
"At first I thought Zerg was imbalanced and overpowered. But ever since I started practicing hard, I started to realize it wasn't that Zerg was imbalanced but rather it was the Zerg Players were alot more skilled than Protoss Players at this point of time.
I will practice hard and show a better self this season"
Ever since the Fall of Bisu in this OSL, people have been calling you the 'Last Hope' How do you feel about the recent PvZ?
"At first I thought Zerg was imbalanced and overpowered. But ever since I started practicing hard, I started to realize it wasn't that Zerg was imbalanced but rather it was the Zerg Players were alot more skilled than Protoss Players at this point of time.
I will practice hard and show a better self this season"
Stork is really scary when he actually practices. Jangbi though... It feels like he just lacks confidence in ZvP. He needs to either practice like hell, or start watching One Piece.
On October 21 2009 21:00 Holgerius wrote: Yay, Stork did what Bisu could not; beat a bad Zerg and qualify for OSL! It's actually quite sad that we consider Stork beating ggaemo an achievement.
On October 21 2009 21:00 Holgerius wrote: Yay, Stork did what Bisu could not; beat a bad Zerg and qualify for OSL! It's actually quite sad that we consider Stork beating ggaemo an achievement.
Thank god Stork pulled through. I almost didn't want to watch the 2nd match after seeing jangbi's facepalm perfomance against Kwanro.
Although I must say, Stork had the OP advantage in both games. So it's still up in the air how he'd fare against more polished ZvP players. I'm just glad there's still a good chance for a Legend of the Fall.
On one hand it's great to have Stork advance, on the other it's bad that popular variations of currently ineffective fe sair build worked, it can delay development of other builds most zergs aren't ready for or cheesy plays.
Watching the recast on the OGN stream now - before reading the thread - I have to say I've got two impressions: 1) Jangbi's macro was god-awful, especially game 2 vs Barracks and game 1 vs Kwanro. Although I think Kwanro's early third was huge - I'm not sure all the drone kills even really evened things up for Jangbi, because: 2) Eeeesh that's a tight choke at the nat on Eye of the Storm. Also he kept losing obs, that didn't help the break. By the time he did get in and trash Kwanro's nat, it was way too late.
the one time i LB for a CJ player is the one time they decide to disappoint me. God damn skyhigh, i thought you were a lock to beat ggaemo! Freaking OSL and their upsets...
On October 22 2009 02:25 dekuschrub wrote: hahah and once again stork shows that he is amazing
jangbi you once agian show that you are not good.
Stork is fcking awesome and Jangbi is slumping, but comeon... u cant compare ggameo and kwanrol
jangbi had to practice for 2 matchups against 2 decent players(msl finalist zerg) while Stork got to face Oz's dirty little secret. No way can u compare the skill levels of these 2 based on thess Osl games and say jangbi sucks
Skyhigh's TvZ is mediocre, Ive said this for ages...hes hasnt really beaten any "good" zergs, I believe in time it will become beastly. And thank god stork one theres way too many zergs, too bad free didnt qualify but even he might have trouble with these maps.
And Jangbis PvZ is also mediocre like half his wins are padded, mainly by yarnc, who im pretty sure has beaten him the last couple of times hes played. Having watched Jangbis games he basically seems to dominate lesser zergs with basically pure harrass, or a nice timing attack.
Ever since the Fall of Bisu in this OSL, people have been calling you the 'Last Hope' How do you feel about the recent PvZ?
"At first I thought Zerg was imbalanced and overpowered. But ever since I started practicing hard, I started to realize it wasn't that Zerg was imbalanced but rather it was the Zerg Players were alot more skilled than Protoss Players at this point of time.
I will practice hard and show a better self this season"
makes me happy that at least one progamer acknowledges the truth instead of hopping on the ZvP = Imba bandwagon. Get the same amount of multitasking and midgame understanding as the good zergs nowadays and Im sure tosses will start to beat zerg again. It just takes a while to shake the "FE -> Sair -> ill see what he does and roll that shit ezpz" habit which was formed by Bisu.
On October 21 2009 20:55 MrHoon wrote: Stork Mini Interview
Ever since the Fall of Bisu in this OSL, people have been calling you the 'Last Hope' How do you feel about the recent PvZ?
"At first I thought Zerg was imbalanced and overpowered. But ever since I started practicing hard, I started to realize it wasn't that Zerg was imbalanced but rather it was the Zerg Players were alot more skilled than Protoss Players at this point of time.
I will practice hard and show a better self this season"
makes me happy that at least one progamer acknowledges the truth instead of hopping on the ZvP = Imba bandwagon. Get the same amount of multitasking and midgame understanding as the good zergs nowadays and Im sure tosses will start to beat zerg again. It just takes a while to shake the "FE -> Sair -> ill see what he does and roll that shit ezpz" habit which was formed by Bisu.
it was a great strategy that went extremely stale because EVERYONE started to copy it, second by second. Otherwise I agree that I like Stork's answer.
Stork's Gf better not see those pics with tossgirl, or zergs will be the least of Storks worries!
Stork is the best Protoss ever. 6 fcking years and still performing amazingly as always. Name one other protoss let alone player who remained this good for this long. I think Khan's become the new Oz and Stork is their Jaedong.
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