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[R&S] 2009 MBC Survivor Tournament S2

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p4NDemik
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Last Edited: 2009-11-19 04:14:40
October 10 2009 21:16 GMT
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Thanks to alffla for the great banner!

18th MBCGame Suvivor Tournament Results and Standings

The Players

Terran - The Pride of War (14)
(T)sKyHigh - 조병세 - Jo Byung Se
(T)UpMaGiC - 신희승 - Shin Hee Seung
(T)Hwasin - 진영수 - Jin Young Soo
(T)fantasy - 정명훈 - Jung Myung Hoon
(T)PianO - 임진묵 - Lim Jin Mook
(T)Flash - 이영호 - Lee Young Ho
(T)fOrGG - 박지수 - Park Ji Soo

(T)RuBy - 민찬기 - Min Chan Ki *
(T)Leta - 신상문 - Shin Sang Moon **
(T)Light - 이재호 - Lee Jae Ho **
(T)Mind - 박성균 - Park Sung Gyoon **
(T)go.go - 김창희 - Kim Chang Hee
(T)Bogus - 이신형 - Lee Shin Hyung
(T)BaBy - 전태양 - Jun Tae Yang

Zerg - Overcome All (16)
(Z)Luxury - 박찬수 - Park Chan Soo
(Z)sAviOr - 마재윤 - Ma Jae Yoon

(Z)Orion - 권수현 - Kwun Soo Hyun **
(Z)hyvaa - 신대근 - Shin Dae Kun **
(Z)hero - 조일장 - Jo Il Jang **
(Z)FireFist - 김재춘 - Kim Jae Choon
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] - 박명수 - Park Myung Soo
(Z)type-b - 문성진 - Moon Sung Jin
(Z)HoeJJa - 고강민 - Koh Kang Min
(Z)RorO - 신노열 - Shin No Yeol
(Z)Saint - 김동현 - Kim Dong Hyun
(Z)Crazy-Hydra - 임정현 - Lim Jung Hyun
(Z)July - 박성준 - Park Sung Joon
(Z)HoGiL - 김상욱 - Kim Sang Wook
(Z)Hyuk - 박재혁 - Park Jae Hyuk
(Z)Shine - 이영한 - Lee Young Han

Protoss - Victory After Victory (18)
(P)JangBi - 허영무 - Hu Young Moo
(P)Horang2 - 이경민 - Lee Kyung Min
(P)Movie - 진영화 - Jin Young Hwa
(P)Much - 박영민 - Park Young Min
(P)Kal - 김구현 - Kim Ku Hyun
(P)Pure - 박세정 - Park Sae Jung

(P)Anytime - 오영종 - Oh Yeong Jong **
(P)BackHo - 손찬웅 - Son Chan Woong **
(P)Violet - 우정호 - Woo Jung Ho **
(P)Stork - 송병구 - Song Byung Goo **
(P)BeSt - 도재욱 - Doh Jae Wook **
(P)free - 윤용태 - Yoon Yong Tae **
(P)Pusan - 박지호 - Park Ji Ho
(P)Stats - 김대엽 - Kim Dae Yeob
(P)GuemChi - 김승현 - Kim Seung Hyun
(P)han - 박수범 - Park Soo Bum
(P)DaezanG - 박대만 - Park Dae Man
(P)Nbs - 손재범 - Son Jae Bum

bold = seeded from Avalon MSL
* = Gave up place in Avalon MSL, seeded in place of (T)Shine (retired)
** = Top non-qualified KeSPA-ranked player on team, seeded into MST

The Maps

Byzantium 3
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Destination
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Heartbreak Ridge
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The News

Offline Prelims Recap (by alffla)
Week 1 (by Atrioc & alffla)
Week 2 (by Arrian)
Week 3 (by Atrioc & alffla)
Week 4 (by Atrioc, alffla & KwarK)

The Live Reports

Offline Preliminaries - September 29th
Group 1 - October 8th
Group 2 - October 8th
Group 3 - October 10th
Group 4 - October 15th
Group 5 - October 15th
Group 6 - October 17th
Group 7 - October 22nd
Group 8 - October 22nd
Group 9 - October 24th
Group 10 - October 29th
Group 11 - October 29th
Group 12 - October 31st

The Interviews

Offline Preliminaries (by l10f)
Groups 1 & 2 (by l10f)
Group 3 (by Dice)
Groups 4 & 5 (by l10f)
Group 6 (by l10f)
Group 7 (by
Group 8 (by
Group 9 (by l10f)
Group 10 (by
Group 11 (by ghostWriter)
Group 12 (by



The Format

Finishers 9-24 from the previous MSL are seeded into the Survivor Tournament. The highest KeSPA-ranked players from each team that are not already qualified after the previous MSL are also given a spot. These 28 players are joined by the 20 players who advanced from the offline preliminaries, and then all players are split into 12 groups of four. Each group is played in double-elimination dual tournament format. Two players from each group advance to play in the next MSL.

The Results

Group 1
1. (P)Stats 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)type-b 2-1 ►Advances to MSL
3. (T)fantasy 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (P)Much 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (T)fantasy < (P)Stats on Destination
Game 2: (Z)type-b > (P)Much on Destination
Winners: (Z)type-b < (P)Stats on Byzantium 3
Losers: (T)fantasy > (P)Much on Byzantium 3
Final: (Z)type-b > (T)fantasy on Heartbreak Ridge

Group 2
1. (T)Hwasin 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)Hyuk 2-1 ►Advances to MSL
3. (Z)HoeJJa 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (P)BackHo 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (T)Hwasin > (Z)HoeJJa on Byzantium 3
Game 2: (Z)Hyuk > (P)BackHo on Byzantium 3
Winners: (T)Hwasin > (Z)Hyuk on Heartbreak Ridge
Losers: (Z)HoeJJa > (P)BackHo on Heartbreak Ridge
Final: (Z)Hyuk > (Z)HoeJJa on Destination

Group 3
1. (P)Movie 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)Saint 2-1 ►Advances to MSL
3. (T)BaBy 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (P)Horang2 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (P)Horang2 < (T)BaBy on Destination
Game 2: (Z)Saint < (P)Movie on Destination
Winners: (T)BaBy < (P)Movie on Byzantium 3
Losers: (P)Horang2 < (Z)Saint on Byzantium 3
Final: (T)BaBy < (Z)Saint on Heartbreak Ridge

Group 4
1. (P)BeSt 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)FireFist 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (T)Leta 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (T)PianO 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (T)PianO < (P)BeSt on Destination
Game 2: (Z)FireFist > (T)Leta on Destination
Winners: (Z)FireFist < (P)BeSt on Byzantium 3
Losers: (T)PianO < (T)Leta on Byzantium 3
Final: (Z)FireFist > (T)Leta on Heartbreak Ridge

Group 5
1. (T)Flash 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)hero 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (P)DaezanG 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (P)Anytime 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (T)Flash > (P)DaezanG on Byzantium 3
Game 2: (P)Anytime < (Z)hero on Byzantium 3
Winners: (T)Flash > (Z)hero on Heartbreak Ridge
Losers: (P)DaezanG > (P)Anytime on Heartbreak Ridge
Final: (Z)hero > (P)DaezanG on Destination

Group 6
1. (T)RuBy 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)July 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (P)Pure 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (Z)YellOw[ArnC] 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (P)Pure > (Z)July on Heartbreak Ridge
Game 2: (Z)YellOw[ArnC] < (T)RuBy on Heartbreak Ridge
Winners: (P)Pure < (T)RuBy on Destination
Losers: (Z)YellOw[ArnC] < (Z)July on Destination
Final: (P)Pure < (Z)July on Byzantium 3

Group 7
1. (P)Stork 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (T)fOrGG 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (P)Nbs 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (Z)RorO 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (T)fOrGG > (Z)RorO on Destination
Game 2: (P)Nbs < (P)Stork on Destination
Winners: (T)fOrGG < (P)Stork on Byzantium 3
Losers: (Z)RorO < (P)Nbs on Byzantium 3
Final: (T)fOrGG > (P)Nbs on Heartbreak Ridge

Group 8
1. (P)Kal 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)Crazy-Hydra 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (T)go.go 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (Z)Orion 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (P)Kal > (Z)Crazy-Hydra on Heartbreak Ridge
Game 2: (T)go.go > (Z)Orion on Heartbreak Ridge
Winners: (P)Kal > (T)go.go on Destination
Losers: (Z)Crazy-Hydra > (Z)Orion on Destination
Final: (T)go.go < (Z)Crazy-Hydra on Byzantium 3

Group 9
1. (T)Light 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)Shine 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (P)Violet 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (T)sKyHigh 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (T)sKyHigh < (P)Violet on Byzantium 3
Game 2: (Z)Shine < (T)Light on Byzantium 3
Winners: (P)Violet < (T)Light on Heartbreak Ridge
Losers: (T)sKyHigh < (Z)Shine on Heartbreak Ridge
Final: (P)Violet < (Z)Shine on Destination

Group 10
1. (Z)hyvaa 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (P)JangBi 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (P)Pusan 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (T)Mind 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (P)JangBi > (P)Pusan on Byzantium 3
Game 2: (T)Mind < (Z)hyvaa on Byzantium 3
Winners: (P)JangBi < (Z)hyvaa on Heartbreak Ridge
Losers: (T)Mind < (P)Pusan on Heartbreak Ridge
Final: (P)JangBi > (P)Pusan on Destination

Group 11
1. (Z)sAviOr 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (P)GuemChi 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (T)UpMaGiC 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (P)han 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (T)UpMaGiC > (P)han on Heartbreak Ridge
Game 2: (P)GuemChi < (Z)sAviOr on Heartbreak Ridge
Winners: (T)UpMaGiC < (Z)sAviOr on Destination
Losers: (P)han < (P)GuemChi on Destination
Final: (T)UpMaGiC < (P)GuemChi on Byzantium 3

Group 12
1. (T)Bogus 2-0 ► Advances to MSL
2. (Z)HoGiL 2-1 ► Advances to MSL
3. (P)free 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (Z)Luxury 0-2 ► Eliminated

Game 1: (Z)Luxury < (T)Bogus on Heartbreak Ridge
Game 2: (Z)HoGiL > (P)free on Heartbreak Ridge
Winners: (Z)HoGiL < (T)Bogus on Destination
Losers: (Z)Luxury < (P)free on Destination
Final: (Z)HoGiL > (P)free on Byzantium 3



Players Qualified for MSL (32)

Terran - The Pride of War (8)
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(T)Iris (Semifinalist)
(T)Canata (Quarter-finalist)
(T)Hwasin
(T)Flash
(T)RuBy
(T)fOrGG
(T)Light
(T)Bogus

Zerg - Overcome All (16)
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(Z)Calm (Champion)
(Z)Kwanro (Finalist)
(Z)Jaedong (Semifinalist)
(Z)EffOrt (Quarter-finalist)
(Z)ZerO (Quarter-finalist)
(Z)type-b
(Z)Hyuk
(Z)Saint
(Z)FireFist
(Z)hero
(Z)July
(Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)Shine
(Z)hyvaa
(Z)sAviOr
(Z)HoGiL

Protoss - Victory After Victory (8)
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(P)Bisu (Quarter-finalist)
(P)Stats
(P)Movie
(P)BeSt
(P)Kal
(P)Stork
(P)JangBi
(P)GuemChi

Team Distribution
STX SouL (6): (Z)Calm, (T)Hwasin, (Z)hero, (Z)July, (P)Kal, (T)Bogus
SK Telecom T1 (4): (T)Canata, (P)Bisu, (Z)Hyuk, (P)BeSt
KT Rolster (4): (P)Stats, (Z)FireFist, (T)Flash, (T)fOrGG
CJ Entus (4): (T)Iris, (Z)EffOrt, (P)Movie, (Z)sAviOr
Woongjin Stars (4): (Z)Kwanro, (Z)ZerO, (Z)Crazy-Hydra, (P)GuemChi
MBCGame HERO (2): (Z)Saint, (T)Light
Samsung KHAN (2): (P)Stork, (P)JangBi
hite SPARKYZ (2): (Z)type-b, (Z)HoGiL
Hwaseung OZ (1): (Z)Jaedong
Air Force ACE (1): (T)RuBy
WeMade FOX (1): (Z)Shine
eSTRO (1): (Z)hyvaa
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SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
October 10 2009 21:24 GMT
#2
14 + 24 = 38?
Bisu... ;-(
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
October 10 2009 21:28 GMT
#3
Could you please point out where the actual mistake was made rather than demonstrate your 3rd grade arithmetic knowledge?
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SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-10 21:29:24
October 10 2009 21:28 GMT
#4
No failure at your work Sir, im just confused about the new system thats all.

aaaand im an idiot. didnt realize you already added the qualified players from grp 1 + 2 + 3.
Bisu... ;-(
DZhou
Profile Joined November 2008
China14 Posts
October 13 2009 01:30 GMT
#5
Can't believe fantasy is out already
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 15 2009 07:59 GMT
#6
Bisu's in the team distribution, but not on any of the other lists (nor is he in any of the brackets).

Did he get knocked out already? And if so, by who?
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 10:25:52
October 15 2009 11:49 GMT
#7
Qualified players through Survivor

Zerg (Z)type-b, (Z)Hyuk, (Z)Saint, (Z)FireFist, (Z)hero, (Z)July, (Z)Crazy-Hydra, (Z)Shine, (Z)hyvaa, (Z)sAviOr, (Z)HoGiL
Protoss (P)Stats, (P)Movie, (P)BeSt, (P)Stork, (P)Kal, (P)JangBi, (P)GuemChi
Terran (T)Hwasin, (T)Flash, (T)RuBy, (T)fOrGG, (T)Light, (T)Bogus

11 Zerg
7 Protoss
6 Terran

2 hite [image loading][image loading]
4 KT [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
5 STX [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
2 SKT [image loading][image loading]
2 CJ [image loading][image loading]
2 MBC [image loading][image loading]
1 ACE [image loading]
2 KHAN [image loading][image loading]
2 Stars [image loading][image loading]
1 FOX [image loading]
1 eSTRO [image loading]

MSL Qualified players (Bolded players seeded from previous MSL)

Zerg (Z)Calm, (Z)Kwanro, (Z)Jaedong, (Z)EffOrt, (Z)ZerO, (Z)type-b, (Z)Hyuk, (Z)Saint, (Z)FireFist, (Z)hero, (Z)July, (Z)Crazy-Hydra, (Z)Shine, (Z)hyvaa, (Z)sAviOr, (Z)HoGiL
Protoss (P)Bisu, (P)Stats, (P)Movie, (P)BeSt, (P)Stork, (P)Kal, (P)JangBi, (P)GuemChi
Terran (T)Iris, (T)Canata, (T)Hwasin, (T)Flash, (T)fOrGG, (T)Light, (T)Bogus

16 Zerg
8 Protoss
8 Terran

32 of 32

6 STX [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
4 Stars [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
1 OZ [image loading]
4 CJ [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
2 hite [image loading][image loading]
4 SKT [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
4 KT [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]
2 MBC [image loading][image loading]
1 ACE [image loading]
2 KHAN [image loading][image loading]
1 FOX [image loading]
1 eSTRO [image loading]
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
October 15 2009 17:07 GMT
#8
Ouch. Fantasy taking a note from Bisu. They really don't want to face eachother do they.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
October 15 2009 17:28 GMT
#9
On October 15 2009 16:59 thunk wrote:
Bisu's in the team distribution, but not on any of the other lists (nor is he in any of the brackets).

Did he get knocked out already? And if so, by who?

Bisu made it to the quarterfinals of the last MSL, so he's automatically got a seed in the Round of 32.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
October 16 2009 01:10 GMT
#10
On October 15 2009 20:49 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Dropped to next season Survivor

Zerg (Z)HoeJJa
Protoss (P)DaezanG
Terran (T)fantasy, (T)BaBy, (T)Leta

1 Zerg
1 Protoss
3 Terran

1 SKT [image loading]
1 KT [image loading]
1 WeMade FOX [image loading]
1 hite [image loading]
1 Stars [image loading]

Where are you getting this information from? MST spots are given out to #9-24 from the previous MSL, the top 12 KeSPA ranked players from their respective teams, and the 20 qualifiers from the offline prelims. There are no spots delegated to players who were 3rd in their MST group - all players who don't qualify from the MST go straight back into next season's preliminaries.
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-16 02:28:53
October 16 2009 01:41 GMT
#11
On October 16 2009 10:10 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2009 20:49 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Dropped to next season Survivor

Zerg (Z)HoeJJa
Protoss (P)DaezanG
Terran (T)fantasy, (T)BaBy, (T)Leta

1 Zerg
1 Protoss
3 Terran

1 SKT [image loading]
1 KT [image loading]
1 WeMade FOX [image loading]
1 hite [image loading]
1 Stars [image loading]

Where are you getting this information from? MST spots are given out to #9-24 from the previous MSL, the top 12 KeSPA ranked players from their respective teams, and the 20 qualifiers from the offline prelims. There are no spots delegated to players who were 3rd in their MST group - all players who don't qualify from the MST go straight back into next season's preliminaries.


Oh I am sorry, this format I was using was last seasons MSL not Survivor :D. Going to remove those.

Glad that someone noticed :D Did save a lot of unnecessary work
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
October 23 2009 12:33 GMT
#12
All 6 dragons might make this MSL!
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
October 31 2009 19:52 GMT
#13
On October 23 2009 21:33 ThunderGod wrote:
All 6 dragons might make this MSL!


Free fail! lol

Looks like its 8-16-8 o_O
Jaedong :3
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 01 2009 20:43 GMT
#14
On November 01 2009 04:52 ReketSomething wrote:
Looks like its 8-16-8 o_O


I think WCG had 6 Protoss out of 24 players and there was a PvP final.
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 11:56:44
November 02 2009 11:39 GMT
#15
Terran lineup looks pretty weak apart from flash, only one other SL winner: ForGG.

Edit: Though I suppose ForGG was the last terran to take a title (LOL), with Flash being the one before.
In fact, come to think of it, there haven't been many Terran title winners over the years just
iloveoov, mind, forgg, nada, casy and flash since 2003. (Though I suppose Protoss have only had Nal_rA, bisu, anytime and stork in the last six years. Eight Zergs though.)

Edit: interesting fact: Calm vs Kwanro is the first MSL since the early days when both finalists have never appeared in a SL final before. This has happened once in the last six years for OSLs as well: Iris vs GGplay.
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 04 2009 16:05 GMT
#16
Was it me, or did the Calender say that the Selection was tonight?

Did it already happen, or was I seeing things?
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
November 04 2009 16:44 GMT
#17
On November 05 2009 01:05 Fionn wrote:
Was it me, or did the Calender say that the Selection was tonight?

Did it already happen, or was I seeing things?


Yeah this confused me too. It said that it was going to be at 18:30 KST but now it just disappeared from the calendar.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
November 04 2009 16:48 GMT
#18
STX Soul on fucking fire, hell yeah !
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 04 2009 18:21 GMT
#19
On November 05 2009 01:44 Ikonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2009 01:05 Fionn wrote:
Was it me, or did the Calender say that the Selection was tonight?

Did it already happen, or was I seeing things?


Yeah this confused me too. It said that it was going to be at 18:30 KST but now it just disappeared from the calendar.


Yeah I was looking forward to it.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 04 2009 18:25 GMT
#20
Fomos removed it from their schedule a couple of days ago. Apparently there are rumors that MBC is having difficulty with their sponsor/having trouble finding one.
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
November 04 2009 20:23 GMT
#21
On November 05 2009 03:25 p4NDemik wrote:
Fomos removed it from their schedule a couple of days ago. Apparently there are rumors that MBC is having difficulty with their sponsor/having trouble finding one.


Sad to hear =(
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 04 2009 22:06 GMT
#22
On November 05 2009 03:25 p4NDemik wrote:
Fomos removed it from their schedule a couple of days ago. Apparently there are rumors that MBC is having difficulty with their sponsor/having trouble finding one.

... oh god. if the MSL is cancelled idk what i will do with my life
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 04 2009 22:31 GMT
#23
(Z)sAviOr is in the MSL. Please find a sponsor soon.
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SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
November 04 2009 22:46 GMT
#24
tragic
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Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
November 04 2009 22:52 GMT
#25
On November 05 2009 03:25 p4NDemik wrote:
Fomos removed it from their schedule a couple of days ago. Apparently there are rumors that MBC is having difficulty with their sponsor/having trouble finding one.

The fall of progaming has started.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
November 04 2009 22:57 GMT
#26
Progaming never falls. Its just certain organizations governing games will.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 04 2009 23:28 GMT
#27
uh oh

EVE online, sponsor the MSL please!
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Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
November 04 2009 23:56 GMT
#28
So, just to be clear, they drive the GOM tournament out of business, the first tournament with any potential to expand the market and attract Blizzard itself as a sponsor, and then one of the established tournaments falls flat on its face anyway!? Is KESPA suicidal or grotesquely stupid?
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
November 05 2009 00:04 GMT
#29
wtf is wrong with kespa seriously, they are screwing up the entire foreign gaming scene. someone who knows how marketing works should reform everything, so that sponsoring works out and progaming expands.
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
November 05 2009 00:15 GMT
#30
Don't rush to blame Kespa for this. So far it's just a rumor and nobody really knows what went down. Maybe they had a sponsor that pulled out at the last second.
Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
November 05 2009 00:27 GMT
#31
I'm not blaming KESPA in the sense that they caused the MSL to fail, I am pointing out that not only did they make the bizarre business choice of not trying to expand the market in which they sold their own products, they closed down a major tournament, GOM, when one of the established tournaments they were favoring was apparently not very healthy.
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Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
November 05 2009 01:43 GMT
#32
Everyone should STFU until we have some conclusive information.


This is all speculation, nobody really knows what happened.
We decide our own destiny
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 05 2009 01:53 GMT
#33
NERDRAGE FTW! But seriously, stop thinking too much. We don't know what really happened yet.
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Readersblock
Profile Joined June 2009
United States43 Posts
November 05 2009 02:07 GMT
#34
On November 05 2009 10:43 Tien wrote:
Everyone should STFU until we have some conclusive information.


This is all speculation, nobody really knows what happened.


amen
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Prototype
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden56 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-05 03:00:57
November 05 2009 02:52 GMT
#35
Indeed. We don't know why the group selection was delayed, only that it was. It would not be prudent to blame Kespa for everything.

No, for all we know this could well be the work of (Z)a certain other agent who has publically enunciated his intention to abrogate the professional StarCraft scene by extirpating its practitioners within the end of the year...

...What? Don't tell me I was the only one who thought of that?
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 06 2009 02:01 GMT
#36
On November 05 2009 09:04 Newguy wrote:
wtf is wrong with kespa seriously, they are screwing up the entire foreign gaming scene. someone who knows how marketing works should reform everything, so that sponsoring works out and progaming expands.

You know gom was canceled because 3 leagues and 1 team league was just too much? Kespa didn't kill it.
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MrHickoryHam54
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
November 10 2009 03:40 GMT
#37
ok, back to the MSL/MST

i would kill for this matchup in the finals:

Calm (defending champ) vs Jaedong (guy who got rolled by defending champ last time)
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Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
November 10 2009 03:42 GMT
#38
The last thing we need is another ZvZ finals....enough is enough already.

Very interested to see what sponsor they have this season.
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
November 10 2009 05:03 GMT
#39
Red Bull MSL? Oo
i hope the sponsor shows up soon!
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
November 10 2009 14:11 GMT
#40
On November 10 2009 14:03 Mykill wrote:
Red Bull MSL? Oo
i hope the sponsor shows up soon!

its gonna be NATE MSL, group selection on november 19th
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 11 2009 08:35 GMT
#41
What are the "Prematch tournaments" going to be about? Just a showcase of whats to come, or will players be eliminated in it?
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MrHickoryHam54
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
November 11 2009 13:51 GMT
#42
On November 10 2009 12:42 Rostam wrote:
The last thing we need is another ZvZ finals....enough is enough already.

Very interested to see what sponsor they have this season.


actually, ur probly right. in that case, Flash vs Jaedong
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UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
November 11 2009 14:16 GMT
#43
movie will win this msl its obvious!
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MrMoose
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada176 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-11 20:52:08
November 11 2009 20:32 GMT
#44
On November 11 2009 17:35 Emon_ wrote:
What are the "Prematch tournaments" going to be about? Just a showcase of whats to come, or will players be eliminated in it?


It seems like they're just taking all the people who haven't been in the MSL before (BeSt?) and pitting them against each other for fun. I think it's just a showmatch - no eliminations but I could be wrong.

edit: I checked and yes, BeSt has never been in an MSL before - wow!
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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 11 2009 21:02 GMT
#45
On November 12 2009 05:32 MrMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2009 17:35 Emon_ wrote:
What are the "Prematch tournaments" going to be about? Just a showcase of whats to come, or will players be eliminated in it?


It seems like they're just taking all the people who haven't been in the MSL before (BeSt?) and pitting them against each other for fun. I think it's just a showmatch - no eliminations but I could be wrong.

edit: I checked and yes, BeSt has never been in an MSL before - wow!

yeah BeST has a history of failing in the MSL
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