anyone who can read the game well or people who follow sc for a while know stork has the better pvt than bisu, not even funny

stork's pushbreaking is fundamentally better than bisu, in fact I'd say free's is better than bisu too

Islandsnake

United States679 Posts

August 27 2009 11:11 GMT

#704

Game starts, killer eyes turn on

okum

France5778 Posts

August 27 2009 11:11 GMT

#705

On August 27 2009 20:06 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:

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Nothing personal, but it's just because you are KHAN fan maybe?

Maybe he's a KHAN fan because of that?

Promises

Netherlands1821 Posts

August 27 2009 11:12 GMT

#706

I tend to agree Stork's PvT is better then Bisu's on a understanding level etc, however Bisu's multitasking and micro pull it pretty even imo.

Itachii

Poland12466 Posts

August 27 2009 11:12 GMT

#707

ZvZ, i missed this!

Sinedd

Poland7052 Posts

August 27 2009 11:12 GMT

#708

its just me or everybody thinks that Gangyu is way better and more badass ID than Kwanro ?

igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

August 27 2009 11:12 GMT

#709

See Mondragon vs Stork, or how to kill zerg without losing a zealot. Bisu's like 150 ELO higher than Stork in pvz.

And great vulture micro is a lot easier than great mine sniping micro. I wish they have a first person shot of that battle.

darktreb

United States3016 Posts

August 27 2009 11:13 GMT

#710

On August 27 2009 20:11 .risingdragoon wrote:
anyone who can read the game well or people who follow sc for a while know stork has the better pvt than bisu, not even funny

Well, I agree that Stork's understanding of PvT is far, far deeper than Bisu's. When Stork practices hard, he is probably still the best, but often times that's not the case and Bisu is better during those times because his overall mechanics and multitasking are so monstrous.

Ver

United States2186 Posts

August 27 2009 11:13 GMT

#711

On August 27 2009 20:06 darktreb wrote:

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I mean it's kind of a 50/50 isn't it? Bisu knows that Flash knows that 12 Nex is really strong Heartbreak. But if you BBS and a Protoss as good as Bisu doesn't 12/14 Nex you are DONE - especially on a two player map means there's no scouting luck involved whatsoever.

Flash apparently didn't want to take that chance so he went for an 8 Rax push strat but just executed it terribly (losing that first Marine was pretty inexcusable). Bisu's Pylon blocking Flash's choke was also big because a Vulture could have gotten to that fight while it was still happening - as it turned out Vultures only got out after the initial skirmish.

Had Flash done a better job with his push it would have been a very different game. I don't think it's ever "obviously correct" to BBS because it's only impossible to stop if you 12/14 Nex.

I didn't see but if Flash really 8 raxed he made a really dumb move. I mean micro blah blah Bisu did nothing special that game. You simply can't rush the 12 nexus on that map because of a) distance and b) they can pylon block your vulture and you can't win with the rush at this distance without the vulture (not like you usually can anyway). It's really unbelievable Flash didn't know that.

So either he has to do some type of normal expansion build and attempt to get ahead by other means or proxy bbs. HBR is tough for T but it doesn't excuse Flash being really dumb about it.