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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
August 27 2009 10:59 GMT
#661
On August 27 2009 19:57 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 19:56 Itachii wrote:
Bisu's as close to perfection with toss as you can get, what would i give for his recent fpvod~~ guy's execution of actions is just insane.


as far as PvT goes..I guess you didnt see stork yesterday.


Stork ran into tons of mines if I recall correctly. Bisu is better than him.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 27 2009 10:59 GMT
#662
On August 27 2009 19:58 FireGuyX wrote:
Weird game by flash, constantly using vultures. There was no attempt for Flash to go mid or long game.

thats because there would be no point going mid/late game -_- Flash was wayyyy behind ever since he made his rax
dats racist
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
August 27 2009 10:59 GMT
#663
epic epic micro by bisu
WyffGoaL
Profile Joined August 2009
Malaysia70 Posts
August 27 2009 10:59 GMT
#664
Bisu's micro is awesome! I really love his superb micro.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
August 27 2009 10:59 GMT
#665
Flash why didnt you play your macro-beast mode on HBR
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
August 27 2009 10:59 GMT
#666
I missed slowmo replay . Anyone record it?
My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 27 2009 11:00 GMT
#667
On August 27 2009 19:59 Kaniol wrote:
Flash why didnt you play your macro-beast mode on HBR


I don't think you get how far 12 nex puts the protoss ahead against a terran who goes standard.
Remember Violet.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
August 27 2009 11:01 GMT
#668
Incredible micro by Bisu. Flash's vultures were sick, but he never really had a chance. Should've opted for BBS instead.

Bisu vs Jaedong is going to be so awesome.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
August 27 2009 11:01 GMT
#669
On August 27 2009 19:59 IMlemon wrote:
I missed slowmo replay . Anyone record it?

download the vod when it comes out?
© Current year.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 27 2009 11:01 GMT
#670
and yes like Ret said, Flash failing to predict a Double Nex is just a really wtf moment

Oh well atleast Flash took a game
dats racist
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
August 27 2009 11:01 GMT
#671
Ugh, losing to 12 Nexus twice? =(
TranslatorBaa!
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
August 27 2009 11:01 GMT
#672
On August 27 2009 19:59 Loanshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 19:57 mog87 wrote:
On August 27 2009 19:56 Itachii wrote:
Bisu's as close to perfection with toss as you can get, what would i give for his recent fpvod~~ guy's execution of actions is just insane.


as far as PvT goes..I guess you didnt see stork yesterday.


Stork ran into tons of mines if I recall correctly. Bisu is better than him.


Running into mines is a mistake, but so is not making a deeper decision or macroing properly. It's just that viewers can only see one of the two obviously. Stork running into mines in a game in which a lot is going on does not necessarily make him worse at PvT than Bisu, just because Bisu microed perfectly against mines in a game where that was the ONLY thing going on.

Stork is the best PvT player ever and deserves more PvT respect than he gets these days. He's always been better than Bisu at playing precision Protoss - it's just that Bisu's multitasking and overall APM has now gotten to a point where he can just be overpowering. Even now, with Bisu the slightly superior PvT player, it's still clear to me that Stork has a deeper understanding of the matchup.
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 11:02:33
August 27 2009 11:01 GMT
#673
edit: Im dumb.
My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8202 Posts
August 27 2009 11:02 GMT
#674
Yeah honestly, after seeing the 12 nex Flash should have played standard on that map. Unlike Destination, I think he would have a great shot at taking Bisu down. The map is great for defense/push to expansions like Flash plays.

Oh well, congrats to Bisu who will wtfpwn every foreigner at WCG . Although I would have loved to see Idra v Flash or something haha.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
August 27 2009 11:03 GMT
#675
On August 27 2009 19:58 integral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 19:58 Wala.Revolution wrote:
On August 27 2009 19:54 integral wrote:
even if flash killed that whole army, which he didn't, he was still behind....


No, had he successfully killed the goon in front of bisu's nat, he would continually rally vults, siege up with turrets, and take down Bisu's nat. If bisu opted for faster gates with later 3rd, Flash would have been crushed, but Bisu going 2base arb off of 2 gates allowed Flash to have a chance.

I meant the whole army right before he GGed, but thanks for correcting something I didn't say

My mistake.
Stuck.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 11:03:53
August 27 2009 11:03 GMT
#676
Mondi vs Bisu will kick ass
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 27 2009 11:03 GMT
#677
And you know what?

I'm glad Bisu/Flash produce better games than JD/Flash, JD/Bisu, Stork/Flash, Stork/Bisu, Stork/JD


IN YO FACE FANBOYS LOL
dats racist
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
August 27 2009 11:03 GMT
#678
Stork is the only toss can win PvT with a base down and wasting units. Others need to be a base up instead, huge difference.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 27 2009 11:04 GMT
#679
On August 27 2009 20:03 disciple wrote:
Mondi vs Bisu will kick ass

lol?
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Aresien
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United Kingdom305 Posts
August 27 2009 11:05 GMT
#680
On August 27 2009 20:01 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 19:59 Loanshark wrote:
On August 27 2009 19:57 mog87 wrote:
On August 27 2009 19:56 Itachii wrote:
Bisu's as close to perfection with toss as you can get, what would i give for his recent fpvod~~ guy's execution of actions is just insane.


as far as PvT goes..I guess you didnt see stork yesterday.


Stork ran into tons of mines if I recall correctly. Bisu is better than him.


Running into mines is a mistake, but so is not making a deeper decision or macroing properly. It's just that viewers can only see one of the two obviously. Stork running into mines in a game in which a lot is going on does not necessarily make him worse at PvT than Bisu, just because Bisu microed perfectly against mines in a game where that was the ONLY thing going on.

Stork is the best PvT player ever and deserves more PvT respect than he gets these days. He's always been better than Bisu at playing precision Protoss - it's just that Bisu's multitasking and overall APM has now gotten to a point where he can just be overpowering. Even now, with Bisu the slightly superior PvT player, it's still clear to me that Stork has a deeper understanding of the matchup.


In the most I agree but I would still call Stork the better PvTer, worse mechanics and all. Bisu is better in PvZ and PvP but his PvT has never been as strong as Khans toss's IMO.
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