Bisu vs Free While I really like Free's small army micro and his overall play, the man is wildly inconsistent, especially at PvP. His opponent is none other than Mr. =O, who happens to be the best protoss in the business right now. Oh, did I mention his PvP win rate in 2009 is 80.65%? Mr. =O should handily win this set 2-0.
Jaedong vs Hwasin Many people would like to say Jaedong is "slumping". However, Lee Jaedong knows no such word. The man still boasts quite arguably the best ZvT in the business right now. His opponent, the Red Sniper, however is no slouch at TvZ. Known for his great bionic control, Hwasin should pose quite a challenge for Jaedong. + Show Spoiler [OSL Spoilers] +
However, Jaedong is fresh off his annihilation of Fantasy in the OSL semis, and should be on top of his ZvT game with a boatload of momentum going forward
That being said, Jaedong should win 2-1 over Hwasin.
Round of 16 commences today with a GOOD line up. Two of the five protosses remaining pitted against each other, and a pretty good TvZ with the Red Sniper facing off against the Dong. Hopefully we see better games this round than in the RO16.
Special thanks to NeverGG and Korean Netizens for the Hwasin pic. He sure looks good as girl.
I'd better not see any macro games from JD today. That would make me a sad panda. Ling all-ins and 2 hatch agogo! JD accounts for nearly half of zerg wins on RotK this season. LOL FREE never saw that pic. If only that guy next to him were cropped out, then it'd look like Free had two right hands.
Just happened to find that pic on Fomos while I was browsing for a pic of Free. Figured why not use it? Still pales in comparison to Bisu's and Jaedong's pics. Too lazy to cleanly crop out the guy next to Free. =/
given that JD is probably, and should be, practicing hard for the OSL Final, i expect him to drop to hwasin, especially if Hwasin goes MnM... JD doesnt need any distractions from the Golden Mouse.
Bisu and free should be a good match, with Bisu coming out on top eventually.
Jaedong is wincing from some strong cheese. His picture foretells a Hwasin bunker rush~
On a serious note, I think Bisu > Free and Jaedong > Hwasin. Hwasin hasn't been doing all that well lately, so regardless of Jaedong focusing on ZvZ, I think Jaedong will take it.
Wow Free looks like a total badass in that picture, Bisu looks like he's fucked. I love Jaedong and Bisu's pics too. Jaedong and Bisu to win though imo.
"00:03 Troll : cause some fucker had to post in the LR thread"
well sorry for having it bookmarked :p
Typically, if the streamer wants his stream posted, he'll come tell me himself. If he hasn't told me, then he MIGHT not want it publicized for a reason. Think about it?
I think the game will be both going for standard builds. They macro up a bit, people think Free has a chance because nothing's happened. Then Bisu rapes bring decidedly in the first battle and people go 'Bisu's too good', and 'Free sucks omgz'. Let's see what happens. Oh noes, lagging stream, my internet =[.
Really bad decisionmaking from Bisu. He got his expansion up much faster than Free and only needed to defend another minute before he could take the offense. Instead he took his shuttles and reavers to Free's main, sacrificing the advantage and the game for just a few probe/goon kills.
On August 19 2009 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote: Does everyone else's streams lag recently? I haven't been able to watch any games without major screenshot like lag.
On August 19 2009 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote: Does everyone else's streams lag recently? I haven't been able to watch any games without major screenshot like lag.
On August 19 2009 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote: Does everyone else's streams lag recently? I haven't been able to watch any games without major screenshot like lag.
1500 viewers will do that
Watched PL finals with 2000 and everything was fine.
I thought at the time Bisu's decision making was fine. He did after all have a narrow ramp to guard. It's really difficult to attack that. And he obviously was very confident in his defending skills.
If anything, he obviously didn't expect Free to go for a one-base attack given how easy it is to defend.
On August 19 2009 13:33 FabledIntegral wrote: Does everyone else's streams lag recently? I haven't been able to watch any games without major screenshot like lag.
On August 19 2009 13:39 muramasa wrote: Does the pylon behind your own Nexus improve mining efficiency or make manner pylons harder, or something else?
Never really watched Bisu, the way he's sittin there in his chair it looks like he's a puppet master pulling all the strings to make his minions do his bidding :D
On August 19 2009 13:47 GeLaar wrote: How exactly did Bisu end up having 30 psi worth of units more than Free? Neither one damaged the other significantly during the early game.
he picked off like 5 goons, 5 probes, and a few dts at random points in the game
Bisu had faster expo and more goons due to not rushing templar archives imo. Could be wrong, but every little advantage builds up. That failed dt rush did put free behind.
Game 2 to me was like: 1. free went fast DT. 2. Bisu mined his backdoor mineral patch. 3. free's DT hit the pylon. 4. Bisu moved out with 2x units and free GG'd.
I'm like "Eh? WTF? Oh I guess he's Bisu after all". So it worked out :/
On August 19 2009 13:51 Darth_Ihsahn wrote: Anyone else noticed Bisu was red on all three games?
I'm fairly certain, at least ogn, is using the shitf-tab color change thing, so they are always red or yellow depending on who they ally on the beginning
YES! Killed the shuttle. And damn, that was some scouting skill. Shuttle tries to sneak across the map and runs into an observer and a probe before it's half way to Bisu's base.
Perfect scouting by Bisu. Searched for the badly damaged shuttle with an observer and then ran goons up when free went to engage in the middle and raped the shuttle and then micro'd the reavers with his own off on the side. Betting he planned the "Counter-Flank" as well when he attacked Free's Natural Expansion.
I still find it incredibly awesome how the shuttle speed finishes just as he finished sneaking his shuttle around and began to enter the base with the reaver
it's sick how many people think there's some variation in bunker rush execution between pros. it's only 3 minutes of game play. you can practice it 20 times in one hour and there are very few units involved. mastering the bunker rush and the micro of 2 mariens is not a feat as bw goes
Jaedong is probably fine now. Outsider allows a zerg to take as many bases as they want while only building sunks at 1 spot until the terran gets dropships.
meh, jaedong didn't really have a choice but to go for that guardian build... no way he would have had enough lurks to hold that. hwasin had to fuck up royally to lose, and he didn't.
As a Zerg player who gets owned by bunker rushes, it's really saddening to see the best Zerg in the world still losing to bunker rushes. I still don't get why Terrans don't just bunker rush every game.
On August 19 2009 14:30 QuakerOats wrote: As a Zerg player who gets owned by bunker rushes, it's really saddening to see the best Zerg in the world still losing to bunker rushes. I still don't get why Terrans don't just bunker rush every game.
Because not every map has such short rush distances like Outsider. Remember Iloveoov? Rush if close, expo if far.
On August 19 2009 14:29 talismania wrote: meh, jaedong didn't really have a choice but to go for that guardian build... no way he would have had enough lurks to hold that. hwasin had to fuck up royally to lose, and he didn't.
Yeah against Jaedong, it is def. Terran's best choice. You don't want to face his late game defiler play and delay the mutas with this overpowered rush.
On August 19 2009 14:27 GeLaar wrote: That was a close one. Hwasin gave Jaedong a lot of time after that initial attack. Seemed risky.
Not risky at all, after his bunk rush he managed to force JD to spend drones on sunkens when he never really had any intention of suiciding into a sunken line right away. Instead, he took his time to secure a stronger economy, D up and control the game. His timing was perfect, just before JD's Hive tech kicked in. If anything Hwasin was miles ahead after the successful bunker rush all game.
On August 19 2009 14:30 QuakerOats wrote: As a Zerg player who gets owned by bunker rushes, it's really saddening to see the best Zerg in the world still losing to bunker rushes. I still don't get why Terrans don't just bunker rush every game.
Because not every map has such short rush distances like Outsider. Remember Iloveoov? Rush if close, expo if far.
On August 19 2009 14:30 QuakerOats wrote: As a Zerg player who gets owned by bunker rushes, it's really saddening to see the best Zerg in the world still losing to bunker rushes. I still don't get why Terrans don't just bunker rush every game.
Because not every map has such short rush distances like Outsider. Remember Iloveoov? Rush if close, expo if far.
In a situation like that, and many other sunken breaks, what if zerg hotkey'ed their sunkens and focused fired medics, until most or all of them were gone. I don't think I ever see it done, but I can imagine it being good.
for hwasin to comeback he literally needs to kill everysingle Drone on the map then get his 2nd gas back running again while deflecting all mutalisk attacks perfectly
lol game was long over after red dork didnt make rines for that bunker. Its so basic - you place bunker or two on that bridge and you are completely safe
I think that JD sniping tanks was the winning move... he never let hwasin get 2 or more tanks at the same time ( Tanks rape like shit on destination's bridges)
On August 19 2009 14:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: I want more gosu analysis from Scaramanga.
Yeah that was fail, but 2 base zerg with a third that has no drones shouldnt be able to beat a 2 base terran, its jaedong i guess
No your analysis was just way off.
It would be true if jaedong was playing passively. But he was playing aggresively and consistantly doing damage. When that happens zerg only needs a third and to lower the unit count of t so he cant move out. After that happens you can fill up the 3rd and start a 4th and cruise for the win. His "fail allin" wasnt an all in and wasn't a fail at all.
On August 19 2009 14:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: I want more gosu analysis from Scaramanga.
Yeah that was fail, but 2 base zerg with a third that has no drones shouldnt be able to beat a 2 base terran, its jaedong i guess
JD perfectly countered him at every turn. Mutas always out when he needed them, and were sniping scv's and tanks left and right. You can't expect gollies to stop mutas in the main and defend the front against hydras too :o
On August 19 2009 14:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: I want more gosu analysis from Scaramanga.
Yeah that was fail, but 2 base zerg with a third that has no drones shouldnt be able to beat a 2 base terran, its jaedong i guess
JD perfectly countered him at every turn. Mutas always out when he needed them, and were sniping scv's and tanks left and right. You can't expect gollies to stop mutas in the main and defend the front against hydras too :o
I would expect a terran off 2 base to be able to hold whatever a zerg off 2 base throws at him, idk if thats unreasonable to expect but i dont think many other pro terrans in that situation would have lost that much shit to harras
On August 19 2009 14:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: I want more gosu analysis from Scaramanga.
Yeah that was fail, but 2 base zerg with a third that has no drones shouldnt be able to beat a 2 base terran, its jaedong i guess
JD perfectly countered him at every turn. Mutas always out when he needed them, and were sniping scv's and tanks left and right. You can't expect gollies to stop mutas in the main and defend the front against hydras too :o
I would expect a terran off 2 base to be able to hold whatever a zerg off 2 base throws at him, idk if thats unreasonable to expect but i dont think many other pro terrans in that situation would have lost that much shit to harras
Oh ya hwasin is obviously a newbie-_- Or maybe youre just incorrrect?
by making that extra like 6 lings jaedong reduced the damage.. hwasin is still behind but coulda been worse had jaedong macro'd harder behind those sunks imo.. still had enough to flank and route the marines all he did after that was lose some lings and delay the scvs returning to the minerals like 15 seconds.
On August 19 2009 14:50 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: I want more gosu analysis from Scaramanga.
Yeah that was fail, but 2 base zerg with a third that has no drones shouldnt be able to beat a 2 base terran, its jaedong i guess
JD perfectly countered him at every turn. Mutas always out when he needed them, and were sniping scv's and tanks left and right. You can't expect gollies to stop mutas in the main and defend the front against hydras too :o
I would expect a terran off 2 base to be able to hold whatever a zerg off 2 base throws at him, idk if thats unreasonable to expect but i dont think many other pro terrans in that situation would have lost that much shit to harras
Oh ya hwasin is obviously a newbie-_- Or maybe youre just incorrrect?
if he made rines for that goddamn bunker he wouldve been fine, he just refused to do that thats all
Does anyone realize how close we were to a shitstorm if Hwasin won both his games with bunker rushes? *shudders*. I'm happy, JD didn't play too good today, meaning that he's practicing hard for the OSL.
On August 19 2009 15:04 QuakerOats wrote: I think Jaedong realized now that he should just go pool first every game. Even if the opponent doesn't bunker rush he can still kick ass.
On August 19 2009 15:03 Sadistx wrote: What is it with progamers never putting more than 2 marines in a bunker. Some kind of hidden agreement or what.
I am not very good, but sometimes I will put 2 marines in a nat bunker because that is enough to hold off early game lings until my main groupings can make it there.
On August 19 2009 15:04 QuakerOats wrote: I think Jaedong realized now that he should just go pool first every game. Even if the opponent doesn't bunker rush he can still kick ass.
It's the JvT equivalent of the bunker rush which supposedly Terran can always do and come out ahead regardless of outcome.
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
YAY KINGDOM
I've been told that the other commentators don't give as much insight strategy-wise. And the pudgy-ish one is really loud.
the pic of Jaedong in OP was hillarious. I wonder when that was from? maybe he had a pissed off moment, then had to sneeze or something? I'd love to see that vod of that game
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
YAY KINGDOM
Lol dont worry I don't actually think kingdom is psychic. What about Nal_Ra? Good to know though.
On August 19 2009 15:08 Sosha wrote: the pic of Jaedong in OP was hillarious. I wonder when that was from? maybe he had a pissed off moment, then had to sneeze or something? I'd love to see that vod of that game
gL
AFAIK that was from his series vs fantasy in the OSL semi's where fantasy lifted off all his buildings. I may be wrong though.
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
YAY KINGDOM
I've been told that the other commentators don't give as much insight strategy-wise. And the pudgy-ish one is really loud.
Well to be fair only TheMarine, Kingdom, and Nal_Ra were former pros. Unless Yooi is still a commentator? Is he?
We've had a total of...5 macro games from a total of 36 total games? Why does WCG suck so much overall this year? Well, to people who hate mechanical macro bots, this should be refreshing.
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
YAY KINGDOM
I've been told that the other commentators don't give as much insight strategy-wise. And the pudgy-ish one is really loud.
Yeah uhmjaekyung is rather loud and delays his sentences. But he's kinda a hit-or-miss commentator. Some people LOVE him, while others just HATTEEE him.
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
YAY KINGDOM
Lol dont worry I don't actually think kingdom is psychic. What about Nal_Ra? Good to know though.
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
YAY KINGDOM
I've been told that the other commentators don't give as much insight strategy-wise. And the pudgy-ish one is really loud.
Yeah uhmjaekyung is rather loud and delays his sentences. But he's kinda a hit-or-miss commentator. Some people LOVE him, while others just HATTEEE him.
On August 19 2009 15:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Please englighten us mr hoon!!
YOU SMELL FUNNY
I was talking about how he lost like 3 scvs against 5 zerglings when he had marines right next to the CC
Lol
No man I was talking about how you said kingdom was a awesome commentator and was hoping you would translate what he said
Kingdom basically predicted everything that just happened
Sexy.
Have you considered the fact that kingdom may be psychic?
I dunno about that but really he is an excellent commentator
When he first debut'd Kona and I were talking about how good his commentary was and he was worthy to take TheMarine's place as commentator (note: TheMarine has won numerous polls of "best Commentator" by a landslide in korea so when he went to the army we were really really sad)
YAY KINGDOM
Lol dont worry I don't actually think kingdom is psychic. What about Nal_Ra? Good to know though.
On August 19 2009 15:01 FireGuyX wrote: Why doesn't Hwasin try Flash's built? You know go mech than switch to full mm. He has the micro to pull it off, unlike Fantasy.
Wth are you talking about. Don't diss fantasy. Hwasin definitely didn't get wrecked my mutalisks with that amazing micro of his huh?
On August 19 2009 15:03 MuffinDude wrote: soo any recommended games tonight?
Game 2 was pretty good if you like zerg
game 2 was terrible watch game 1 where he killed 8 sunks or whatever
Terran fan eh?
Killing 8 sunks when you're 1/1 and your opponent had 5 drones after a bunk rush isnt that hard. Especially with 8+ medics.
Yes because 4 bases and 30 drones is "5 drones." And if the mutas were there, Hwasin would have lost badly.
Wait.. what?
His point is that after the bunker rush Jaedong was economically crippled and was on catch-up all game. Credit to Hwasin where it is due though... he attacked while the Mutalisks were away (which was key) as well as it being a timing attack where JD was in the middle of teching up and had no army other than those mutas.
On August 19 2009 15:15 alt.tday wrote: lol wtf happened to "recaps" for results...
Lazy to cap everything. Plus, there wasn't much to really recap. If I did, it'd be like this. Game 1 Bisu Free: Bisu expos first, dual shuttle harasses, fails to defend. GG Game 2 Bisu Free: Bisu rapes Free at macro. GG Game 3 Bisu Free: Bisu rapes Free's first shuttle. Rapes another shuttle with reavers. GG Game 1 Hwasin Jaedong: Hwasin bunk rushes, then uber sunk breaks ftw. GG Game 2 Hwasin Jaedong: Jaedong rapes mech. Hwasin fails to hold ramp/bridge. GG Game 3 Hwasin Jaedong: All in fail by Hwasin. Mutas rape for Jaedong. GG
On August 19 2009 15:01 FireGuyX wrote: Why doesn't Hwasin try Flash's built? You know go mech than switch to full mm. He has the micro to pull it off, unlike Fantasy.
Wth are you talking about. Don't diss fantasy. Hwasin definitely didn't get wrecked my mutalisks with that amazing micro of his huh?
Hwasin definitely only got wrecked after he failed his SCV/marine all in. He'd have been much more prepared for those mutas had he not wrecked himself going for that first attack.
On August 19 2009 15:03 MuffinDude wrote: soo any recommended games tonight?
Game 2 was pretty good if you like zerg
game 2 was terrible watch game 1 where he killed 8 sunks or whatever
Terran fan eh?
Killing 8 sunks when you're 1/1 and your opponent had 5 drones after a bunk rush isnt that hard. Especially with 8+ medics.
Yes because 4 bases and 30 drones is "5 drones." And if the mutas were there, Hwasin would have lost badly.
All I can say is "lol".
Yeah, since he almost lost as it was with mutas only arriving at the last second and killing a couple of rines. Your analysis of gameflow is generally pretty poor and I don't like reading it when it's so wrong all the time so I decided to point it out. I might get people bashing me for that now. Jaedong would have had guardians against 1 fac no tank and no vessels, with 4 gasses about to kick in. Hwasin won with what, 8-10 rines left, and Jaedong had more than enough mutas to turn the tide in that fight had he been there.
Ugh I just keep waiting for a moment when rooting for Hwasin is a satisfactory experience again. :/ Not that it's a shame losing to JD, but the other people he loses against and the fashion in which he does it can be depressing at times.
On August 19 2009 15:03 MuffinDude wrote: soo any recommended games tonight?
Game 2 was pretty good if you like zerg
game 2 was terrible watch game 1 where he killed 8 sunks or whatever
Terran fan eh?
Killing 8 sunks when you're 1/1 and your opponent had 5 drones after a bunk rush isnt that hard. Especially with 8+ medics.
Yes because 4 bases and 30 drones is "5 drones." And if the mutas were there, Hwasin would have lost badly.
All I can say is "lol".
Yeah, since he almost lost as it was with mutas only arriving at the last second and killing a couple of rines. Your analysis of gameflow is generally pretty poor and I don't like reading it when it's so wrong all the time so I decided to point it out. I might get people bashing me for that now. Jaedong would have had guardians against 1 fac no tank and no vessels, with 4 gasses about to kick in. Hwasin won with what, 8-10 rines left, and Jaedong had more than enough mutas to turn the tide in that fight had he been there.
Honestly though killing 8+sunks is not that hard... its aweful when i hear ppl go OMFG HOW HE DO THAT. For gods sakes in almost every case there are epic amounts of medics and +1 to armor helps signficantly not to mention almost a gazillion mnm's all the time. I suppose the only reason why ppl find it so cool is because of how much blood there (most of the time.. i do remember one epic one where july beat a line of sunkens with his mnm's.. easy game to find just find the game where july plays terran)
Anyways to continue with your analysis.... if you think that Hwasin defeating that many sunkens is epic ... it would be more correct state how JD almost made a comeback.. not how hwasin recovered from almost fucking up his ENORMOUS lead.
On August 19 2009 21:10 valaki wrote: So no JD vs Bisu next round?
No. Because Bisu played in Match C and Jaedong played in Match G in Ro16 — they’re on opposite sides of brackets. Luxury seeded on pair with Bisu and Stork seeded on pair with JD.
Man, Hwasin really sucked it up today. I almost never cheer against JD and even though I didn't expect Hwasin to actually win I thought that maybe it would be a little closer. It's like he threw the game away. I was laughing at his facial expressions as game three was ending.
Still a fan, but holy shit I don't ever want to see that again ;P
On August 19 2009 07:35 Apex wrote: Jaedong is wincing from some strong cheese. His picture foretells a Hwasin bunker rush~
On a serious note, I think Bisu > Free and Jaedong > Hwasin. Hwasin hasn't been doing all that well lately, so regardless of Jaedong focusing on ZvZ, I think Jaedong will take it.
Hwasin really did Bunker Rush. O.o
Maybe Jaedong's face gives an insight to his future games?
On August 19 2009 15:03 MuffinDude wrote: soo any recommended games tonight?
Game 2 was pretty good if you like zerg
game 2 was terrible watch game 1 where he killed 8 sunks or whatever
Terran fan eh?
Killing 8 sunks when you're 1/1 and your opponent had 5 drones after a bunk rush isnt that hard. Especially with 8+ medics.
Yes because 4 bases and 30 drones is "5 drones." And if the mutas were there, Hwasin would have lost badly.
All I can say is "lol".
Yeah, since he almost lost as it was with mutas only arriving at the last second and killing a couple of rines. Your analysis of gameflow is generally pretty poor and I don't like reading it when it's so wrong all the time so I decided to point it out. I might get people bashing me for that now. Jaedong would have had guardians against 1 fac no tank and no vessels, with 4 gasses about to kick in. Hwasin won with what, 8-10 rines left, and Jaedong had more than enough mutas to turn the tide in that fight had he been there.
After losing THAT many drones after Hwasin's cheese bunker rush you still think JD had a chance to win? That chance was very minimal and JD might have been able to turn the tide if Hwasin was afk during the game
EPT
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so epic
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