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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 21 2009 23:49 GMT
#1481
On August 22 2009 08:48 Itachii wrote:
Trashtalking savior?wth are they talking about

Last year at Blizzcon:
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:49 GMT
#1482
On August 22 2009 08:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:48 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra lost to Ret?! Wozers.



Idra did not play ret; ret played nada, idra played effort


He's talking about the losers bracket where ret won 2-1 vs ret and skyhigh won 2-0 vs beckham.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 21 2009 23:49 GMT
#1483
why is the camera keep shooting at the specs?
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
August 21 2009 23:49 GMT
#1484
On August 22 2009 08:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:48 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra lost to Ret?! Wozers.



Idra did not play ret; ret played nada, idra played effort


...and after that there was idra-ret in the loser bracket, which ret actually won.

(I can be wrong )
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
August 21 2009 23:50 GMT
#1485
On August 22 2009 08:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:48 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra lost to Ret?! Wozers.



Idra did not play ret; ret played nada, idra played effort

i think hes talking about losers bracket
© Current year.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
August 21 2009 23:50 GMT
#1486
On this stream the little sign at the top has said "next game starts 30 minutes" for the past while now.
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
August 21 2009 23:50 GMT
#1487
On August 22 2009 08:43 Shikyo wrote:
Elitist? *eyeroll*

Damn it I'll get myself banned if I post like this. Umm so when is Starcraft starting? I'll just say starpride, you only need maybe 300apm for perfect wc3 micro, you can't micro perfectly in starcraft even with 600. Think about it... and end of discussion please.


It's not humanly possible to perfectly micro in either game.

Difference is, even if you're microing consistently worse than the other guy in starcraft you can still win with superior macro, but wc3 has very little macro, and so you really need to outplay your opponent micro-wise in order to win the game.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
August 21 2009 23:50 GMT
#1488
On August 22 2009 08:50 CorSairHeRo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:49 d(O.o)a wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:48 On_Slaught wrote:
Idra lost to Ret?! Wozers.



Idra did not play ret; ret played nada, idra played effort

i think hes talking about losers bracket


ooooo ok I thought he was another confused person from what djwheat said way earlier.
Hi.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 21 2009 23:50 GMT
#1489
Match 1:Savior defeats Beckham 2-0
Match 2: Effort defeats Idra 2-0
Match 3: Mensol (Zerg) defeats Skyhigh (Terran) 2-0
Match 5: Skyhigh (Terran) defeats Beckham (Zerg) 2-0
Match 6: Ret (Zerg) defeats Idra (Terran) 2-1
starleague forever
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 21 2009 23:50 GMT
#1490
On August 22 2009 08:49 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:48 Itachii wrote:
Trashtalking savior?wth are they talking about

Last year at Blizzcon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rskIlMrSfw8

i seen this vid like 3 times, wheres the trashtalk
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
August 21 2009 23:51 GMT
#1491
Are there going to be more SC games today? If so, when?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 21 2009 23:51 GMT
#1492
On August 22 2009 08:50 Kiarip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:43 Shikyo wrote:
Elitist? *eyeroll*

Damn it I'll get myself banned if I post like this. Umm so when is Starcraft starting? I'll just say starpride, you only need maybe 300apm for perfect wc3 micro, you can't micro perfectly in starcraft even with 600. Think about it... and end of discussion please.


It's not humanly possible to perfectly micro in either game.

Difference is, even if you're microing consistently worse than the other guy in starcraft you can still win with superior macro, but wc3 has very little macro, and so you really need to outplay your opponent micro-wise in order to win the game.


I won't start to talk down Warcraft 3 since I know both games need skill, but its not true that you can if you just macro like mad win a game vs a player who has micro and macro.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 21 2009 23:51 GMT
#1493
On August 22 2009 08:50 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:49 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 22 2009 08:48 Itachii wrote:
Trashtalking savior?wth are they talking about

Last year at Blizzcon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rskIlMrSfw8

i seen this vid like 3 times, wheres the trashtalk

I guess he's referring to when Savior says he'll destroy everyone. That could be taken to be 'trashtalk'.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 21 2009 23:52 GMT
#1494
On August 22 2009 08:50 a176 wrote:
Match 1:Savior defeats Beckham 2-0
Match 2: Effort defeats Idra 2-0
Match 3: Mensol (Zerg) defeats Skyhigh (Terran) 2-0
Match 5: Skyhigh (Terran) defeats Beckham (Zerg) 2-0
Match 6: Ret (Zerg) defeats Idra (Terran) 2-1


Wasn't Zero - Skyhigh a 2-1?
觀過斯知仁矣.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 21 2009 23:52 GMT
#1495
On August 22 2009 08:50 a176 wrote:
Match 1:Savior defeats Beckham 2-0
Match 2: Effort defeats Idra 2-0
Match 3: Mensol (Zerg) defeats Skyhigh (Terran) 2-0
Match 5: Skyhigh (Terran) defeats Beckham (Zerg) 2-0
Match 6: Ret (Zerg) defeats Idra (Terran) 2-1


Zero was 2-1 v Skyhigh

And you forgot Nada beat Ret 2-1.
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 23:53:36
August 21 2009 23:52 GMT
#1496
It's not humanly possible to perfectly micro in either game.

Difference is, even if you're microing consistently worse than the other guy in starcraft you can still win with superior macro, but wc3 has very little macro, and so you really need to outplay your opponent micro-wise in order to win the game.


it isn´t just about micro and macro, its a lot about strategy, scouting and mind games...
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 21 2009 23:52 GMT
#1497
vlc:
http://bglive-a.bitgravity.com/blizzcon/live/stream3 <-- 700k stream, lags like hell
http://bglive-a.bitgravity.com/blizzcon/live/stream4 <-- 400k stream, works like a charm

http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/video/stream-rts.xml (if it lags, just leave 400k checked in player's options)


Effort 2 Idra 0
Nada 2 ret 1
Skyhigh 1 Zero 2
Savior 2 Beckham 0


Losers bracket
Beckham(Z) vs SkyHigh(T)
IdrA(T) vs Ret(Z) (1-2 yeah?)

Winners bracket
sAviOr(Z) vs ZerO(Z)
Nada(T) vs EffOrt(Z)

Schedule:
[image loading]


some mod could put this into the OP, since so many people ask for these things
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
YoungModerN
Profile Joined April 2009
Brazil389 Posts
August 21 2009 23:53 GMT
#1498
so ret > idra?
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
August 21 2009 23:53 GMT
#1499
On August 22 2009 08:50 Kiarip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2009 08:43 Shikyo wrote:
Elitist? *eyeroll*

Damn it I'll get myself banned if I post like this. Umm so when is Starcraft starting? I'll just say starpride, you only need maybe 300apm for perfect wc3 micro, you can't micro perfectly in starcraft even with 600. Think about it... and end of discussion please.


It's not humanly possible to perfectly micro in either game.

Difference is, even if you're microing consistently worse than the other guy in starcraft you can still win with superior macro, but wc3 has very little macro, and so you really need to outplay your opponent micro-wise in order to win the game.


There's more than just mechanics involved in both games..
BW forever || Thall
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
August 21 2009 23:53 GMT
#1500
On August 22 2009 08:50 a176 wrote:
Match 1:Savior defeats Beckham 2-0
Match 2: Effort defeats Idra 2-0
Match 3: Mensol (Zerg) defeats Skyhigh (Terran) 2-0
Match 5: Skyhigh (Terran) defeats Beckham (Zerg) 2-0
Match 6: Ret (Zerg) defeats Idra (Terran) 2-1


Hmm I think Mensol defeated Skyhigh 2-1
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