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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 23:44:24
August 13 2009 23:39 GMT
#41
Ya it sucks when you're caught off guardian
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 00:56:05
August 14 2009 00:54 GMT
#42
On August 13 2009 14:07 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 14:03 travis wrote:
You could replace guardians with any unit here, and I would reply the same.

"depends on the players"


if jaedong makes guardians they probably won't perform badly.

Actually, Jaedong said in an interview a while ago, that he doesn't like to use guardians because every time he does, he loses, lol.



lol, recent Fantasy game where he just needed muta is a prefect example of how to lose a game with guardians.

BoT, Guardians are not very high HP considering the cost. And they require lots of attention and micro to make sure they don't fly into STATIC defenses. It's just a really bad unit overall.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
August 14 2009 01:49 GMT
#43
On August 13 2009 14:20 cgrinker wrote:
Guardian Hydra used to be a standard play until SK Terran an then they were just big Irradiate clouds to break your Hydralisks

i used hydra/guard all the time when i played campaign. it was pretty sweet.
But yeah, guards kinda suck, i don't know why progamers build them tbh. you'd think they know better by now
yubee wrote: you know? it's a great night you should all smile no matter what harddships, because grass grows and the sky is blue and it's a good life.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 14 2009 02:00 GMT
#44
On August 13 2009 14:07 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 14:03 travis wrote:
You could replace guardians with any unit here, and I would reply the same.

"depends on the players"


if jaedong makes guardians they probably won't perform badly.

Actually, Jaedong said in an interview a while ago, that he doesn't like to use guardians because every time he does, he loses, lol.

Lol proleague finals.
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
August 14 2009 02:34 GMT
#45
In Outsider zergs where doing a guardian-ultralisk build and it was working pretty well (probably because they can easily secure at least one of the double gas expos). So i think it depends on the map, some units become effective when the metagame changes, and that usually happens when maps change.
Sulunais
Profile Joined December 2007
Korea (South)34 Posts
August 14 2009 02:40 GMT
#46
Hey, thanks for the responses everyone. Seems like the consensus is that guardians are only useful on very convenient maps or when a sudden surprise. Maybe they're are a sign of the swarm's arrogance in other situations.
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
August 14 2009 02:59 GMT
#47
On August 13 2009 14:07 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 14:03 travis wrote:
You could replace guardians with any unit here, and I would reply the same.

"depends on the players"


if jaedong makes guardians they probably won't perform badly.

Actually, Jaedong said in an interview a while ago, that he doesn't like to use guardians because every time he does, he loses, lol.


This is true
No no no no its not mine!
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
August 14 2009 03:53 GMT
#48
On August 13 2009 21:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
for guardians to function in an actual fight you need to time them so they arrive before he has multiple irradiates and you need to have ensnare in addition. no other zvt scenario has ensnare being as beneficial as it is when going guardian. (i'd rather have 9 guardians and 2 queens with ensnare than 12 guards)


i support this post and it needs more attention
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
August 14 2009 03:59 GMT
#49
Gaurdians are overpriced, slow and most of the time useless, so i never bother ;|
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 14 2009 04:03 GMT
#50
NEVER mass them in my opinion, try to get 1 to 3 guardians in the back against a group of MnMs while Zerglings and Lurkers doing their thing.
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