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arsenic
Profile Joined January 2009
United States163 Posts
April 05 2009 20:33 GMT
#21
JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
April 05 2009 20:42 GMT
#22
On April 06 2009 04:48 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2009 04:36 esla_sol wrote:
just wait till sc2, where every importnat hotkey will be on F, D, S, or A, like it is now in wc3.


i think most of the important hotkeys in SC are positioned on or around w, a, s, and m. (atleast, unit upgrades)

Not true. Terran Vehicle Plating for example.
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-05 21:37:44
April 05 2009 21:37 GMT
#23
Does anyone know have a vid showing Jaedong's hand when he plays or have a good idea on which fingers he used to press certain keys. Also, how the hell does he control 2 groups of Mutalisk as if they're on the same control group?
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
April 06 2009 01:45 GMT
#24
On April 06 2009 05:33 arsenic wrote:
JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D

dont think so

he rarely if ever uses 9 and 0
he mostly uses 4-7
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
April 06 2009 01:52 GMT
#25
On April 06 2009 10:45 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2009 05:33 arsenic wrote:
JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D

dont think so

he rarely if ever uses 9 and 0
he mostly uses 4-7


I believe he uses the same as me, 5 for main, 6 for nat, 7 for 3rd hatch, 4 for expo. I'm not too sure about this.
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
April 06 2009 01:52 GMT
#26
it would be great to be a zerg player with really short pinky/ring/middle fingers to maneuver easily around those close-together keys, and then have a freakishly long index/thumb for reaching across your hatchery keys
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
April 06 2009 03:05 GMT
#27
On April 06 2009 10:52 WindCalibur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2009 10:45 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On April 06 2009 05:33 arsenic wrote:
JD hotkeys his first hatchery to 4 and 0, first Overlord to 2. Eventually he'll override grp 4 with units and just use 0 to macro from his main. As for what fingers he uses, I have no idea. :D

dont think so

he rarely if ever uses 9 and 0
he mostly uses 4-7


I believe he uses the same as me, 5 for main, 6 for nat, 7 for 3rd hatch, 4 for expo. I'm not too sure about this.

just open bwchart
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
DeathSpank
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1029 Posts
April 06 2009 03:10 GMT
#28
when I play zerg I do
muta:
s-pinky
m-thumb

its easy to cycle though my hatches with my ring mid and index finger already on numbers.

I couldn't imagine moving my hand all the way down ....
yes.
w3jjjj
Profile Joined April 2007
United States760 Posts
April 06 2009 03:31 GMT
#29
Use your feet together with your hand, you can cover more keys.
Chuck Norris can salvage his opponent's structures.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
April 06 2009 04:26 GMT
#30
On April 06 2009 02:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
I'm nodding over here with what red.venom said, only middle finger S/index finger O for overlord??
That is a huuuge stretch.

I go pinky on S and index finger on O


Yep I barely stretch that far and I'm 2m tall and have the biggest hands of anyone I know. There is no way to do that comfortably or fast.
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
April 06 2009 05:41 GMT
#31
I still don't know how to use the F2 thru F8... do u do Ctrl + F2 to assign location?
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
April 06 2009 06:19 GMT
#32
You can only just F2, F3 and F4. Shift+F2~F4 saves the location. Press F2~4 to go back to that location or "screen".
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
WhenHellfreezes
Profile Joined November 2008
United States81 Posts
April 06 2009 06:20 GMT
#33
After trying to practice using this hand positioning real fast, I've realized it kinda looks like the shocker.

But you know what ever wins an osl shouldn't really be made fun of. Go Jaedong.
Doom!
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
April 06 2009 09:37 GMT
#34
We weren't making fun of it, I would really like to copy how he places his hands so to increase efficiency and get faster. When I think of it, ring on s and thumb on m is faster than index on m.
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
Elgren
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden31 Posts
April 30 2009 23:32 GMT
#35
What key does he press A with do you guys think?
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-01 04:49:38
May 01 2009 00:53 GMT
#36
OP is worthless without pics.

[image loading]


Also notice in the video how JD's pinky is all stiff and awkward looking lol


PS, I do his position when macroing.
but I switch when battling. I use middle and pointer for numbers, burrow, H, etc and thumb for ctrl, shift, A, S, spacebar.

Actually my hand switches around all the time sometimes I use my thumb for B, to build and closest finger for whatever building. Other times I'll move my hand down and use pointer, middle, and index.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
May 03 2009 02:40 GMT
#37
I FUCKING HATE SCOURGES!!

1ss,2ss, *THINKING TO MYSELF IN HEAD - " OH FUCK, ACCIDENTAL PUSH OF THE 's' BUTTON!*, 3ss, *"FUCK, NOT AGAIN!"*, 4ss, 5sh *"FUCKING FINALLY, YES YES YES!!!"*
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
May 03 2009 02:57 GMT
#38
On April 05 2009 23:29 kaleidoscope wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
for mine, this is how it goes:

4sd5sd6sd(drone production during micro with mutas)
4-middle finger
s-pinkie finger
d-ring finger
5~0-index finger

4sh5sh6sh7sh8sh(5hatch hydra)
4~5-middle finger
s-pinkie finger
h-index finger
6~0-index finger

4sm5sm6sm(3hatch mutas)
4-middle finger
5~6-index finger
s-pinkie finger
m-thumb

I usually hotkey 1-3 for lings/hydras, 4-9 for hatcheries, 0 for lurkers (cos i can afford to reach for U and Ctrl and Shift buttons)

My F2 is towards main to upgrade/research/building, F3 for rallied area, F4 is anywhere if i wanted to do a flank, so i use F3 and F4 for that..


I use the same hotkeys with the exception of 0 for lurkers and the F-keys
I'm just a beginning ZvP player though. Nice to know I'm doing something right XD
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 03 2009 03:14 GMT
#39
Haha, I've ALWAYS taken my hand off the mouse when I hotkey macro. One hand hits the numbers, the other hits the letters.
Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
May 03 2009 21:09 GMT
#40
On May 03 2009 11:40 Disintegrate wrote:
I FUCKING HATE SCOURGES!!

1ss,2ss, *THINKING TO MYSELF IN HEAD - " OH FUCK, ACCIDENTAL PUSH OF THE 's' BUTTON!*, 3ss, *"FUCK, NOT AGAIN!"*, 4ss, 5sh *"FUCKING FINALLY, YES YES YES!!!"*

You can do what July does, he uses hotkeys to clone them.
1 - 12 scourge
2 - 10
3 - 8
3 - 6 and so on and so forth
Jaedong has to be a Bonjwa. Tired of of rooting for July.
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