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Deathfate Spain555 Posts December 26 2008 14:41 GMT #81 Maybe scourge + ensare is not efective but hydra+ensare is. If you add to that 1 spore at each mineral line to deny massive drone killing maybe it can work. The question is how ensare affect mutas? if its attack rate isnt slowed then it will suck.

Liquid`Drone Norway28926 Posts December 26 2008 15:09 GMT #82 ive really used hydra/queen a LOT zvz, tried many different variations and builds it doesnt work on the highest level no matter what you do. I beat some amateurs and semipros with it like 4 years ago but mutamicro has evolved so much since then, and I lost against the best zergs back then as well. there was one really really sweet kind of, tactical move you could do though. basically, when you are planning your 1 massive attack, naked expand to a location far away and have a queen nearby, then when he eventually scouts the expansion which is inevitable, he normally attacks it with mutas then you ensnare them all and then you bust out of your main. suddenly hes not able to get lings/mutas together, nor can he counterattack because theyre not mobile of course if he sends 12 lings instead then you just wasted 300 minerals and you're even further behind :p I think if you play zerg and you suck at zvz, you don't have any ambition of playing on the very highest level and muta/scourge micro is like, your least favourite thing, trying to master hydra/lurker/queen can get you a higher winratio. back when I did it, temple was the most popular map and any zerg could just expand to both islands, contain me while turtling his natural, so it just completely failed if the other zerg had experience playing against it. maybe there are some maps that are slightly better for it, what I think the biggest problem will be is that zergs nowadays are actually good at using their mutas and they will rape your drones even with 2 spores in your main. (hydra queen basically required you to both fast expand and to sunken/spore a lot early on.)

d_so Korea (South)3262 Posts December 26 2008 15:33 GMT #83 making a new thread from this post.

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