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imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
August 04 2008 21:05 GMT
#21
sc is so confusing..

anyway, i thought they did stack..?
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
August 04 2008 21:22 GMT
#22
On August 05 2008 01:47 ForAdun wrote:
Every effect stacks in SC.


if you mean to stack that they can have all this together, yes, but if you dindt mean that:

not psi storm
not plague
not irradate on the same unit
not dmatrix
not ensare

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crabapple
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States397 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-04 21:56:43
August 04 2008 21:55 GMT
#23
what? ensnare slows attack rate? i thot it was just movement speed

not irradate on the same unit


so if you irratdiated 3 ultras in a triangle right next to each other, and had an irradiated vessel over them, each ultra die at the speed of 4 irradiates?
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
August 04 2008 21:59 GMT
#24
On August 05 2008 06:55 crabapple wrote:
what? ensnare slows attack rate? i thot it was just movement speed

Show nested quote +
not irradate on the same unit


so if you irratdiated 3 ultras in a triangle right next to each other, and had an irradiated vessel over them, each ultra die at the speed of 4 irradiates?

yes
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
August 04 2008 22:45 GMT
#25
On August 05 2008 06:55 crabapple wrote:
what? ensnare slows attack rate? i thot it was just movement speed

Show nested quote +
not irradate on the same unit


so if you irratdiated 3 ultras in a triangle right next to each other, and had an irradiated vessel over them, each ultra die at the speed of 4 irradiates?


I guess you've never irradiated 12 vessels and flown them over a bio army. It's loads of funny on bgh.
everything but ultras dies instantly.

BTW: what's the name of that maneuver?
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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
August 04 2008 22:46 GMT
#26
On August 05 2008 06:22 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2008 01:47 ForAdun wrote:
Every effect stacks in SC.


if you mean to stack that they can have all this together, yes, but if you dindt mean that:

not psi storm
not plague
not irradate on the same unit
not dmatrix
not ensare



This post says all, the topic can be closed now. No "90% sure" anymore, please.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
August 04 2008 22:49 GMT
#27
On August 05 2008 07:45 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2008 06:55 crabapple wrote:
what? ensnare slows attack rate? i thot it was just movement speed

not irradate on the same unit


so if you irratdiated 3 ultras in a triangle right next to each other, and had an irradiated vessel over them, each ultra die at the speed of 4 irradiates?


I guess you've never irradiated 12 vessels and flown them over a bio army. It's loads of funny on bgh.
everything but ultras dies instantly.

BTW: what's the name of that maneuver?

eraser.
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
August 04 2008 22:59 GMT
#28
Ok: here's a fun trick I just tried when testing irradiate stack. Make a ton of marines, a dropship, a goliath, and a vessel. Irradiate the goliath, load it onto the dropship, then see how many marines you can load onto the dropship. I got 34 the first try. Freakin' infinite capacity dropship.
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
August 04 2008 23:26 GMT
#29
As a side note, I think 9 acid spores lowers attack rate by 53%. This could be wrong, but its what I read somewhere.
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Elite]v[arine
Profile Joined October 2007
United States264 Posts
August 04 2008 23:58 GMT
#30
Acid Spores Stack
Ensnare does not stack
Acid spores + ensnare effects coincide
9 acid spores and an ensnare on a corsairs makes it fire slower than a reaver.
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zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-05 06:04:13
August 05 2008 01:09 GMT
#31
God damn it only took like 8 of you only reading the op and 4 of you talking out of your asses before one person says "i'm going to test this i'll post again when i'm done"
edit: only reading the title* i only read the op
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
August 05 2008 01:25 GMT
#32
So if you had plague + ensnare only one of them would work? But if you had plague + acid spores they both would work? And plague + ensnare + acid spores only acid spores and the last recently cast spell would work? Ugh, confusing!

Btw, acid spores don't add damage they decrease armor right? And then they have the slow.
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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
August 05 2008 01:36 GMT
#33
On August 05 2008 10:25 Superiorwolf wrote:
So if you had plague + ensnare only one of them would work? But if you had plague + acid spores they both would work? And plague + ensnare + acid spores only acid spores and the last recently cast spell would work? Ugh, confusing!

Btw, acid spores don't add damage they decrease armor right? And then they have the slow.


Acid spores increase damage. Level 0 muta hit on 9 acid spores does 18 to initial target, 12 on first bounce, and 10 on 2nd bounce. You subtract armor from that amount. I have heard they also increase the rate of psi storm damage by 1 each time it's calculated (every half second?). I guess that means a unit with 9 spores that's stormed would take 183 damage? I'll have to test it. It doesn't work with plague though.


From the compendium: "Each Acid Spore attached to an enemy unit will increase the Cooldown of the enemy's weaponry by 1/8th of the original cooldown value. The effects of the Acid Spores are cumulative, but any unit can only possess up to nine Acid Spores at any one time."
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 05 2008 01:38 GMT
#34
on a random note d matrix = 255 hp( no armor ) - 1 hp for every second ~
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 05 2008 01:40 GMT
#35
On August 05 2008 10:36 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2008 10:25 Superiorwolf wrote:
So if you had plague + ensnare only one of them would work? But if you had plague + acid spores they both would work? And plague + ensnare + acid spores only acid spores and the last recently cast spell would work? Ugh, confusing!

Btw, acid spores don't add damage they decrease armor right? And then they have the slow.


Acid spores increase damage. Level 0 muta hit on 9 acid spores does 18 to initial target, 12 on first bounce, and 10 on 2nd bounce. You subtract armor from that amount. I have heard they also increase the rate of psi storm damage by 1 each time it's calculated (every half second?). I guess that means a unit with 9 spores that's stormed would take 183 damage? I'll have to test it. It doesn't work with plague though.


From the compendium: "Each Acid Spore attached to an enemy unit will increase the Cooldown of the enemy's weaponry by 1/8th of the original cooldown value. The effects of the Acid Spores are cumulative, but any unit can only possess up to nine Acid Spores at any one time."


if im not mistaken storm = 116 dmg ? how did u get 183
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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
August 05 2008 01:48 GMT
#36
On August 05 2008 10:40 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2008 10:36 LonelyMargarita wrote:
On August 05 2008 10:25 Superiorwolf wrote:
So if you had plague + ensnare only one of them would work? But if you had plague + acid spores they both would work? And plague + ensnare + acid spores only acid spores and the last recently cast spell would work? Ugh, confusing!

Btw, acid spores don't add damage they decrease armor right? And then they have the slow.


Acid spores increase damage. Level 0 muta hit on 9 acid spores does 18 to initial target, 12 on first bounce, and 10 on 2nd bounce. You subtract armor from that amount. I have heard they also increase the rate of psi storm damage by 1 each time it's calculated (every half second?). I guess that means a unit with 9 spores that's stormed would take 183 damage? I'll have to test it. It doesn't work with plague though.


From the compendium: "Each Acid Spore attached to an enemy unit will increase the Cooldown of the enemy's weaponry by 1/8th of the original cooldown value. The effects of the Acid Spores are cumulative, but any unit can only possess up to nine Acid Spores at any one time."


if im not mistaken storm = 116 dmg ? how did u get 183


Psi storm does 112. I believe in 8 sections of 14 damage / half second.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 05 2008 01:56 GMT
#37
oh ok
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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
August 05 2008 02:08 GMT
#38
On August 05 2008 10:56 HeavOnEarth wrote:
oh ok


183 was a typo. I meant 112 + 9*8 = 184. And I just tested it, and it does 184 damage to a unit with 9 spores. Testing spore + irradiate will be much harder.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
August 05 2008 02:28 GMT
#39
Yes. Why don't you test it instead of starting a thread?

"Ensnare + acid spores stack!" is a much better thread than "Do ensnare + acid spores stack?"

Seriously, it's like 2 seconds to test.
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ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
August 05 2008 03:01 GMT
#40
Yes they do stack ontop of each other, its just like plauge and ensnare, if you look closely you can see red switch back to green switch back to red switch back to green...that or im just high =/
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