EPT! [G] ZvP - Adaptation Tactics - Page 4
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Kingsp4de20
United States716 Posts
and Its only robotics support? they must of patched it because i sware to go it used to be robots support bay | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On June 17 2008 02:09 w3jjjj wrote: wolf bro u still doing commentating or what? i love how you scream like the koreans, makes the game more interesting to watch. haven't seen any of your new works though. With most of the fanbase going to Diggity / moletrap / Klazart, I've found not a really big need to commentate on Korean games - they cover almost every single one, and also there's more commentators on SC2GG and stuff... Plus I've been trying to further my SC knowledge before doing more, so I go on streaks like every couple weeks I do like one a day then stop for like a month or so... I feel like doing more already now, but not the same games that Diggity does because he and the others attract the main fanbase and if I did any of the same games I'd just have a fraction of the fanbase watching them, basically pointless even though I'll be improving the commentary. So maybe I'll just do foreigner rep commentaries  | ||
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
On June 17 2008 04:49 Superiorwolf wrote: With most of the fanbase going to Diggity / moletrap / Klazart, I've found not a really big need to commentate on Korean games - they cover almost every single one, and also there's more commentators on SC2GG and stuff... Plus I've been trying to further my SC knowledge before doing more, so I go on streaks like every couple weeks I do like one a day then stop for like a month or so... I feel like doing more already now, but not the same games that Diggity does because he and the others attract the main fanbase and if I did any of the same games I'd just have a fraction of the fanbase watching them, basically pointless even though I'll be improving the commentary. So maybe I'll just do foreigner rep commentaries Yea that's a good idea. I mean with 3 ppl who knows what they're talking about doing games together, u'll get more strategy. But your videos have more emotions and are more fun to watch, especially for games I haven't seen before, it's like watching a game with another friend who screams a lot, if I want more in-depth analysis I can always go watch Diggity/moletrap/klazart if they did the same game. I don't think overlaps are too much of a problem, but yea doing foreigner games sounds like an interesting idea. By the way, we should play more zvz, I'm currently 1-0 in the lead  | ||
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Superiorwolf
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
Yea, I was the one that asked you "Are you for real? THE superiorwolf?" when you joined my game. I guess I was just surprised to run into a commentator. My ID is sMi.lols, we should train zvz sometimes, I like seriously need to improve that MU, been losing my cws for that. Tasteless with his GOMTV Classic is the new shit anyways, some of his jokes are so bad you can't possibly not laugh... | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
On June 17 2008 05:42 w3jjjj wrote: I'm only B- due to my ridiculous 33% zvz, C+/B- aren't that different anyway. I sometimes watch their stuff not so much to learn but to get more ideas. Disregarding the mistakes, they do make interesting comments that point in different directions. But now that you mentioned it, its been a while since I last watched one of their videos, I don't really know their level of analysis now. I mean I watch korean VODs and I speak no korean........I just enjoy the atmosphere, they are loud and they never stop talking, and every time something interesting happens they are like "OOOHHHHHHHHHH, WWAAAAAAAAAAA", as I said, makes the game more interesting to watch. Yea, I was the one that asked you "Are you for real? THE superiorwolf?" when you joined my game. I guess I was just surprised to run into a commentator. My ID is sMi.lols, we should train zvz sometimes, I like seriously need to improve that MU, been losing my cws for that. Tasteless with his GOMTV Classic is the new shit anyways, some of his jokes are so bad you can't possibly not laugh... sMi.lols is B-? | ||
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kirtar111
United States72 Posts
actually, i did. And it was amazing | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Ya, I think I still have the replay of you vs. me. What really sucks for me is that my ZvT lategame is horrendous, therefore I always 2 hatch muta in order to get my wins, and ofc that's not really going to help my lategame in the future Sometimes I do get to lategame and win though :DMy ZvZ is luck-based, sometimes I beat people wayyyyy better than me and sometimes I lose to D's with bad records. I'm going to check the replay and see what happened - just like today where I had a huge lead the whole game, I blew it and lost Btw you should 2v2, if you haven't seen the "2v2 Group?" thread that I made, unless of course you are one of those people who absolutely hates 2v2.My ZvP is basically the only matchup that I'm more consistent in, but I'm not too good against 2 gate for sure, 1 gate tech builds and Fast expand builds are my favorite builds to go against. I'd say it's the abundancy of Protosses which makes the matchup better lol. So ya let's train ZvZ together sometime, I spent a mass period watching thousands of XiaOzI ZvZ replays (he has the weirdest style ever, jesus christ. It's some 9 pool into expand, turtle and get another secret expo and use lings to delay enemy expansions, get a huge economy and go devourers and ling/defiler, it's crazy) and I tried that and obviously failed, also some Mondragon / Incontrol and other people replays so I sorta know how it works, I just need to control units better and how to react in difficult situations. So yeah I'll be on iCCup. | ||
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
Wolf, my zvt is 50%, zvp 57 %, and zvz 33%. I remember when I started iccup I was C- and I simply avoided zvz by playing tvz or pvz instead, always thinking "i'll work on zvz later...". And three ranks later I still haven't worked on my zvz yet...haha, I might still be at C- level, with occasional lucky wins. I usually play on Sunday afternoons. PM me if you are on. I don't have our rep anymore, my bw auto-save folder can only keep 500 games, so I periodically erase the old ones. Arco is doing good. I lost a game to him like a few days ago, posted the game here titled "[H] how to do an effective lurker contain?", but few people gave a shit, rofl. I'm not familiar with Faust, never played him, but he's pretty active in cws. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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Yaqoob
Canada3408 Posts
On June 17 2008 05:13 Superiorwolf wrote: I've played you before? Btw, iirc you said you were B level or something. That's extremely strange because I'm only C+ and I find Diggity/moletrap/Klazart videos terribly hard to watch because of all the huge incorrect things they say. Don't you? When I was D+ I found Klazart's videos amazing, but now they are so bad imo - they are all great commentators and all but the strategical analysis they have is disgustingly off Did you ever reach C+ on ICCup? I remember that last season you came within 300 points of C+ after gaming for a while on C level. Also do not forget that before your commentaries were the same as Klazart/Diggity/Moletrap with wrong strategical analysis amongst other stuff. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Also people I'm trying to write one of the Korean style 3 hatch lair den/spire build. Oh ya and happy birthday buddy, come on vent! | ||
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Tk0
Sweden2 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
APM = Actions Per Minute = How many clicks / movements you make in a minute. The average bnet player is probably like 50 APM, while the best of the best (the koreans) generally have 300 - 350+ and some like Nada had consistently 400+ APM. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
In your game you did a 9 pool transition to it, in that case no need for hydra den until after you chase the corsair away, all early resources go into drones and hatcheries, use speedlings for defense is plenty. This game I just finished like a few minutes ago, should show almost the exact BO. http://rapidshare.com/files/123417753/0622_sMilolsZ_420SaTurNP.rep.html | ||
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