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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Groceryheist
United States57 Posts
On April 10 2008 06:47 JoxxOr wrote: timing pushes TvP When i "tried" out terran, i had such a problem with these. Explaining more indepth what you should look for would be fucking awesome. Exactly. This is probably my #2 thing to work on TVP. #1 of course being mechanics. If someone has a good replay illustrating this and the gosu could explain it would be amazing. I would except that most of my games have so many other flaws it would be ridiculously hard to follow. | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
2) PvZ on Python with FE into sair reaver 3) Both D+ (?) Not sure. I know I can get to D+ on iccup. But my sair reaver is much weaker than my standard PvZ. Maybe he is D. 4) I did a practice game vs a random Korean because I want to try Sair Reaver. Basically I gave up halfway because I practiced what I practiced. What went wrong? I think I executed the harass ok at the beginning. But I don't know the strategic nuances of Sair Reaver. I don't know when to switch to a ground army, for example. I don't know when to mix in DT/HT harass. I don't know when to get double stargates or when to get double robotics. I don't know if sair reaver is stronger vs a 1 expo or 2 expo zerg. I don't know when to take the island before you harass. I don't know when I should harass with my first reaver and when to wait for a second. Basically, I did some ok harass. But then my macro slipped majorly. I was actually surprised by this. I can't macro and sair reaver at the same time, apparently. And he was getting his defenses together, splitting up his hydras. Seems to me I should have gone ground army with zealots and a lot of temps. I also tried to get up an expo, which was probably stupid because I had more than enough resources. I think I could have beaten this guy if I had played more standard. Also, his build with very quick hive was strange. I never saw it before and I didn't know what the correct response would have been. 5)Is it actually a good idea for a player of my skill level to try sair reaver? I know it's hard to execute. Same with Sair DT. Maybe it's better to play straightforward with zealots/HTs/goons/obs. What is actually the strategic goal of sair reaver. Harass isn't going to kill. When have I achieved what I set out to achieve. When do I switch tactics? To me the questions stated are more important than the replay itself. I know why I lost; poor macro. That amount of minerals I had stacked up is just unacceptable. [edit] Probably pick another Sair Reaver replay for the broadcasted show. | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
_____ Replay TvP ---------- Im around D+ now, and Game is like B+ or somewhere around there. I open up 2fac vults and do very little damage, if any at all. It looked very even to me at that point, so i decided to try and open up the gap a bit. This is where it backfires....like a lot. I constantly moved out with about 4 tanks and 8 vults like,,,,4 times. Each time, i took something with me but i lost that army. He had an extra expo that i didnt scout fast enough, and i lost the game. Is crawling with tanks to expos and harassing with vultures the only safe TvP build midgame? I consider the first 10 or so minutes of the game to be one of my stronger points, cause I pretty much memorized the timing for everything. In the midgame, I just totally screw up because i didnt expo, or it got killed or something. So basically, i keep moving out at the wrong times and my harass is pointless. I really shouldve turtled up and grabbed more xpos and played it safe with maybe some dropship harass instead. My main question is how would you expo without making a seige line over it? Is playing that aggressive considered reliable? Does it work vs higher level gamers? What are some alternatives to expanding passively if any? So if you can spot any huge glaring holes in my gameplay, other than my macro, and the above mentioned, dont be afraid to flame. I'm fireproof =). Also, if you have any suggestions on how to play aggressive TvZ, TvP, TvT, please tell me. | ||
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On April 10 2008 08:17 Aurious wrote: Ha ha Chill fucked up his own title fix it!! :D Chill defies the laws of physics | ||
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Aurious
Canada1772 Posts
This isn't physics, this is the strategy forum ;D Oh and I've always wanted to say that to him haha <3 Blake. | ||
micronesia
United States24806 Posts
Edit: and btw, THIS ISN'T SPARTA, THIS IS PHYSICS! (yes my student actually yelled that out during class) | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
Terran: Artosis Protoss: Stalife That's the lineup unless something unexpected happens. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
It was a ZvT matchup on GAIA I am a C- level player (low C- i can maintain it but can't go any higher) I got out played i felt the whole game i couldn't manage to keep up every time i expand it got run over. I felt one step behind the whole game. I made i bad desision attaching early in game with second wave of lings i knew it was bad but i did it any way don't know why  here are my main problems with this match up why i lose 1. before hive tech comes i face his MnM ball with lurks and lings and i burrow my lurks in the wrong spot or not in time its GG 2. I have alot of trouble getting my 3rd gas i figured on Gaia if he sends most of his force or all of it to attack my exp then i should counter cause if i get enought lurks up in his natural its usually GG 3. In this last game once i didn't get my 3rd gas up i needed to get more expansions but i couldn't i feel like terran just has to move its groups of marines to exp rip it apart. I try to get lings, lurks, darkswarm and scourge together but it takes tooo long to get them all grouped up and then i get to his units Dswarm he moves away runs to my exp and in seconds owns it while at the same time he is getting exp and securing it with a group of MnM. basically i just feel overwhelmed vs better players trying to micro a force of lings, lurks, Dswarmers and scourge while all this is going on i gotta try to pick off vessels and he is picking off my shit trying to move into posision. HELP PLZ THX  | ||
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
http://download.yousendit.com/A7A88D1B13E9C649 I am C- level player here is a good example of me getting run over really bad by a good P probably B level but was C- when i played him Question: Once I get my 3rd exp on maps like python, long, luna, tau, etc many times its gets run over by the mid game blob of zealots, goons, archon or 2. If i don't have enought lurks its GG for me also if they don't attack me and play defensive i am not capable of mobilizing my pack of lurks along with lings and hydra to try and slow the protoss from exping, unless i am containing i can't make lurks go on the offensive and help stop expansions. I can sneak lings out and pwn their exp but better players gaurd there exp with a few units before cannons arrive | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
my ZvT is so weak, especially comapired to my ZvP. Which usually can hold its own vs C+/B- players. I have a few in my current clan who i play against and do fairly well. But my ZvT is so inconsistent and dumb. I don't know when to make stuff or when to drone push or how to read a situation correctly. When to swarm tech, how to defend expo, correct muta timing. just generally the basics that make a person good at ZvT i am lacking. I have micro skills, I definitly can macro, that's why my ZvP is so strong. But for some reason i cant pull my micro and macro and timing skills together to form a decent ZvT skillset. Also lack of training partners doesn't help rep is here http://rapidshare.com/files/106256486/1on1_VIRT_GG_L.rep.html the guy in this rep got to B- on ICCup last season, and i can do alrigth against his protoss and i beat his terran before. (he's protoss main) But i struggled so much with management. That games kind of old though, maybe klike 2 months, i will try to dig up a newer one. | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
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