! [G] Definitions - Page 9

On September 24 2008 16:45 CharlieMurphy wrote:

Yea, I've always though it was a retarded build.
If you go scout they might get a turret or two, making the DT useless, and even further making the arbiter useless.

I remember something Rekrul said like 5 years ago, something about it being a Sword strategy in the world of Guns.


Someone tried it on me in a random game a few weeks later and I just laughed (and won).


PS- Chill there is a typo in crackling def., you left out infinite stasis for P (you should really just remove the other defs and move it to general term for 'infinite X'; etc.), and mirror as a term of same race matchup. Shock/shockers is also a lesser used term for psi storm and HT.

imo you should add some strategical terms in there as well, such as: Pincer, Crescent/Half-Circle, Wrap, Massing, etc.

On September 24 2008 17:34 dream-_- wrote:


i beat a zerg with the stove today. sort of.

On October 16 2008 03:04 Chill wrote:
I think that's pretty common knowledge to be honest.

On October 25 2008 05:12 Redsplinter wrote:
I've been playing Starcraft for ages, but almost exclusively campaign. With SC2 coming up, and a few friends picking up competitive Starcraft, I decided to come here and really read up on strats and almost immediately realized I needed to read up on terms first, so here I am.

Because I've read the entire thread in the last day, I think I might have a few good perspectives/discussion summations. So with respect and no further ado, I submit the following suggestions:


All-in, cheese, and han-bang are all similar and overlaping, I think the following definitions are the simplest way to describe how they relate (as I understand):

All-in: A very heavily invested, one-time attack. If this attack does not immediately tip the game in your favor, you will likely lose. Can be seen as a desperate cousin of han-bang.

Cheese: A type of strategy that entails using a non-standard opening build intended to defeat your enemy by surprise early in the game. Examples are proxy buildings and Cannon rushes. Like an all in, if this does not tip the game immediately in your favor, you will likely lose, however, because of the early-game aspect, that risk is magnified.

Han-bang: "One time". An attack that is meant to do significant damage at a specific timing. Can be seen as a calculated, purposeful cousin of all-in.


I saw someone mention that "Infinite *" might be placed into the General section. I think this is a good idea - Storm and Dark Swarm could just be the notable examples. ie:

Infinite ***: Having the ability to cast an offensive spell without end in battle by either having enough casters or use of Consume. Examples are Inf. Storm and Inf. Dark Swarm.


I've heard this for other RTS games, but not Starcraft - and though most people get it pretty quick it can confuse:
Military unit: Usually refers to any non-worker with an attack command, but may also include casters with direct offensive spells..


Someone mentioned having a term for floating buildings over turrets to keep them from being explicitly targeted. I don't know if it's a tactic used often, but I've had success with a similar tactic - floating a bay and my first rak over a wall when performing an FE so that the units at the wall can be diverted to defending my natural without diverting econ to building additional military units. (this is mostly useful vs a slow but large speedling rush, or a similar zeal rush) Because one depot will likely burn down under such a rush, the wall can then be gated as usual. ...Back to the point, I've been in discussions where we've termed the tactic "shadowing" or "shadow hiding."

Finally, am I the only one that uses mass-Hallucinate on a somewhat regular basis? ie casting Hallucinate from as many as 12 templar to create a disposable spearhead when breaking a fortified position or push (against terran) with speed zealots, or clogging anti-air to sneak in a strike at an opponent's mineral line or similar. As above, I've discussed this before and we called it an "H-sponge." ie "He used an h-sponge of scouts to get his shuttles through." I'm surprised that there's no common term for it. I'll grant you the times you'd do something like this wouldn't come up often, particularly against skilled players, but it can save the day if you're up against a wall anyway, if you have giant gas reserves, or if you just catch someone getting lazy.

On October 28 2008 12:19 thunk wrote:
You know, the Fantasy Build probably deserves a stringent definition. It gets annoying when people call any build the Fantasy Build, the same way the Bisu build is a specific follow up after FE.

On September 08 2009 09:01 El.Divino wrote:
I hope this is considered a reasonable bump..

But the game has changed enough.

In the definition of Dancing, it says it is most commonly done with hydras and goons. I believe mutalisk should be added to that now?