EPT! [H] ZvZ vs HydraLurk - Page 2
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LeoTheLion
China958 Posts
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ScoutWBF
Germany641 Posts
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wXs.Havok
Argentina529 Posts
2) Go hydra-ling. Wich i dont recommend, but sometimes works if he is not expecting it. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
and yes, +1 air armor is your friend. e: i assumed you were playing on lt, my mistake | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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5HITCOMBO
Japan2239 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
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5HITCOMBO
Japan2239 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Additionally going hive tech yourself is fine. If hes hardcore upgraded hydra/lurk or hive tech himself get guardians or plague/swarm/ling or even ultra. Chill was wrong about hydras being the counter to ultras, Mutas are. Ultra/swarm versus hydralisks is very onesided and the spitters arent on the good end of that. Emphasis on the MOBILITY aspect Chill spoke on.. that is why hydra is inferior in ZvZ. Make him throw up a dozen spore colonies just to earn the right to leave his base. At this point you need to be up in tech or expansion. If not you suck and should lose that game and many more. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9111 Posts
On July 26 2007 09:34 XythOs wrote: get yourself some lurkers, kill overlords with your mutas and set a evil badass hold lurker trap. Woah, that'd be so gosu. Now we need a pro Z to use it in a game. They just gotta hide hydra den/hydras/lurkers and bury them in path.... then AMBUSH! And mutas can get what survives. Although you'd need to be up by at least 1 gas for this too work so you'd be winning most likely already. | ||
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noobienoob
United States1173 Posts
On July 25 2007 13:20 flothefreak wrote: hey there i just played a ZvZ where i did a 1base muta build while my opponent FE'd. the game turned then into muta vs hydra, and as he managed to set up enough defence prevent my muta harass, i teched to ultra/ling because my muta force wouldnt survive an open battle against the hydras. To the Replay looking at the replay, at around 7:30 you would've already won if you'd just attacked; hydras get totally raped by mutas if there's less of them. just have your mutas highlighted and hold shift, then right click each hydra one at a time, followed by his drones; you don't really need any flashy gosu muta harrass skills to use mutalisks effectively (although it potentially helps a lot if done correctly) ignoring the fact that the guy that you played wasn't very good (he should've had a lot more units and/or made spores in response to your spire by that time), you should use the mutalisk's mobility to your advantage and snipe drones, as this totally messes up the enemy zerg player and pretty much can end the game since he's forced to use his larvae to spawn more drones, meaning he won't have enough larvae to make more units, and on top of that he won't be gaining minerals during that time either. generally, hydras aren't really worth going for in zvz because they aren't very mobile compared to lings and mutas, and they need to be upgraded to be of any real use; you pretty much won't be able to harrass the enemy, and usually, at least when facing a good player, you'll be overrun before you make it to lurkers in time to counter mass lings backed by muta harrass/support watch some progamer zvz games and also look up JulyZerg mutalisk harrass, and I think you'll learn lots about the mutalisks potential in mobility i hope i helped in some way. some noob | ||
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w3jjjj
United States760 Posts
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flothefreak
Germany77 Posts
i'll try to turn your advices into ZvZ improvement. | ||
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Holyknight_127
United States82 Posts
doesnt everything lead to muta battles though? so wouldnt just massing mutalisk>hydras since hydra do only 5 dmg have no splash and have less life? I mean the lurkers wouldnt really matter if all the anti-air (the hydras) just died | ||
Last Romantic
United States20667 Posts
On July 28 2007 00:12 Jonoman92 wrote: Woah, that'd be so gosu. Now we need a pro Z to use it in a game. They just gotta hide hydra den/hydras/lurkers and bury them in path.... then AMBUSH! And mutas can get what survives. Although you'd need to be up by at least 1 gas for this too work so you'd be winning most likely already. the game is known as yellOw vs GGPlay from group stages of.. I think shinhan 1? It was on 815. YellOw hold lurks against GGPlay's hydralisk attack | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On August 06 2007 19:59 Last Romantic wrote: the game is known as yellOw vs GGPlay from group stages of.. I think shinhan 1? It was on 815. YellOw hold lurks against GGPlay's hydralisk attack omg best zvz evar | ||
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Andaroo
Canada70 Posts
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
On August 06 2007 19:59 Last Romantic wrote: the game is known as yellOw vs GGPlay from group stages of.. I think shinhan 1? It was on 815. YellOw hold lurks against GGPlay's hydralisk attack I'd love to know where I can get that game now. Youtube or crunchyroll preferably? Speaking of which, its so sad that GGPlay got an OSL before Yellow. | ||
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