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Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
August 01 2014 16:25 GMT
#61
On July 31 2014 09:22 13Julia wrote:
What's to add, it's by newbies for newbies. So it's good as it is lol :p

That surely implies that you ever wanted to contribute.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-03 12:37:00
August 03 2014 12:34 GMT
#62
all you did in the past was whining about Protoss in general, bitching about your opponents and about lag


And about people who win vs you vs you map hacking.



When I was contacted about helping out with this project, my word was like the word of god. I could write an entire article and have it submitted word for word. I could go through articles and edit anything I wanted.

Since I am not the best player outside of Korea, I was careful with this power. But my point is, that saying it's "by newbies for newbies" is factually incorrect, since I assume other players like dRaW were given the same kind of power. And dRaW is pretty good, although he claims Protoss is underpowered, which I don't condone.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Sihrtogg
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands29 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 16:13:07
August 02 2017 16:03 GMT
#63
'beginner' experience report:
(played BW campaign when I was young, SC2 ladder later, now warming up for SC:R)

I was looking for advice on 2v2 build orders.
"2v2 protoss build order brood war @ DuckDuckGo got me to:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Build_Orders_(BGH)
I found exactly what I was looking for.

The page also linked to this thread:
www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/91389-bgh-megathread
I was happily surprised to come across this great in-depth resource buried in the forums that could be incorporated into Liquipedia where it might be read by more people?
One downside: many of the pictures don't load anymore
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 16:51:44
August 03 2017 16:49 GMT
#64
2on2 has always been a weak spot in this project for several reasons:

- hard to find players willing to share
- hard to phrase the dynamics of 2on2 in words, especially as there are other maps being used (e.g. Hannibal)

The only person I remember adding things was some random ... ... well. Let's say there was only garbage being put online. If you ever stumble upon some really idiotic things still hidden in the main space, please let us know.

As for BGH goes: There ARE strategies, but I have no clue about BGH whatsoever and so does the majority of the public battle.net; getting the very basics correctly (use hotkeys), having a feel for wallings and micro already makes you better than the average joe.
Nonetheless, 2pac put up the articles you linked and had this project set aside for every other month. I think we talked at least thrice about that during the initial phase of this project. You should bump him for old pictures and strategies, I bet he can link hundreds of articles, vods and replays going into details I sadly can't provide.

If you find anything useful, feel free to start editing pieces to the wiki!
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 18:08:44
August 03 2017 17:59 GMT
#65
Nvm
alexisXcore
Profile Joined May 2020
1 Post
May 04 2020 16:42 GMT
#66
I've been searching for it but I think that there are no guides in another language, specifically spanish. Im bilingual and I absolutely love SC sadly all the good guides are in english so there is almost no way to help new players in getting better, so If there is interest to have translated guide I would be more than glad to help. (With time I could even help translating tournaments or certain matches)

I hope this is the right place for this, i didnt found another thread about it in the search bar. ♥
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4954 Posts
May 07 2020 10:25 GMT
#67
On May 05 2020 01:42 alexisXcore wrote:
I've been searching for it but I think that there are no guides in another language, specifically spanish. Im bilingual and I absolutely love SC sadly all the good guides are in english so there is almost no way to help new players in getting better, so If there is interest to have translated guide I would be more than glad to help. (With time I could even help translating tournaments or certain matches)

I hope this is the right place for this, i didnt found another thread about it in the search bar. ♥

Hi,

this is something we would love to do eventually, but we simply don't have the framework to support multiple languages at the moment. This does not mean we will never do it, but at the moment we cannot.
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
Marian2
Profile Joined January 2020
2 Posts
July 22 2020 18:31 GMT
#68
hi, is this thread alive? i using discord
Return
Profile Joined June 2005
Ivory Coast856 Posts
July 28 2020 19:12 GMT
#69
Sorry for being non contributive to the thread but I just want to say I really wanna try the ursadon rush
Diiiscoo-oh, thats where the happy people go!
Gooseheaded
Profile Joined May 2009
United States126 Posts
June 21 2022 08:36 GMT
#70
I have updated a few articles to use the "build order" template. The changes are purely aesthetic, with some minor edits to the Build Orders themselves for legibility or clarity.

You can click on the "Pending changes" button at the top of each page to see and approve the changes.

(Wiki)12 Hatch (vs. Protoss)
(Wiki)3 Base Spire into 5 Hatch Hydra (vs. Protoss)
(Wiki)4 Hatch before Gas (vs. Protoss)
(Wiki)3 Hatchery Lurkers (vs. Protoss)
play better, macro, control
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
June 27 2022 21:13 GMT
#71
Hard to edit some of the old stuff when you get minus points for it. Even after knowing it and even testing yourself multiple times ingame for the sake of absolute reality. Not like the liquipedia admins go over it in months either, at least when i looked at my last edit xd, which is sad.
I would guess players around A or better should edit articles, the rest the other stuff. Though in reality if you are around that level you dont have time nor much interest to edit the juicy stuff, you would probally write your own article and that would be that.
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4954 Posts
June 27 2022 23:21 GMT
#72
There's no such things as minus points, and if the reviews are taking too long you're more than welcome to join the Liquipedia discord server at https://discord.gg/liquipedia where you could ask for a review to happen.
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic626 Posts
July 02 2022 14:23 GMT
#73
when is the next patch going to be released?
How may help u?
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
July 08 2022 19:18 GMT
#74
I think there are a lot of paid tutorial videos which have replaced liquipedia for non-beginner players. Sharing those videos is of course not in good faith, however writing new generation builds like Terran's 1-1-1 or Zerg's 2.5 hatch build out on liquipedia would be a good start
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
PurpleWave
Profile Joined January 2021
1 Post
July 13 2022 04:26 GMT
#75
Some sources for build orders:
- English: SCWes' spreadsheet
- English: The "Bag of Buids" discord
- English/Korean: KhalaTV
- Korean: Namu.wiki -- when Chrome translates this for me it's pretty legible. The builds tend to be a little old but still mostly newer than what's on Liquipedia.
chickboom386
Profile Joined July 2022
1 Post
Last Edited: 2022-07-14 18:52:15
July 13 2022 07:28 GMT
#76
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
tifox55624
Profile Joined August 2022
1 Post
Last Edited: 2022-08-02 09:24:46
August 02 2022 05:43 GMT
#77
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