EPTThanks for reading this rather long post and I hope someone can help,
Blood
Trying to get into BW
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FluqsBlood
United Kingdom5 Posts
Thanks for reading this rather long post and I hope someone can help, Blood | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
An hour long game is not normal. But if you and your opponent are complete beginners it is not surprising either. Oh and welcome. | ||
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FluqsBlood
United Kingdom5 Posts
 Thanks for the warm welcome. I thought the game took a while but all i was doing was massing goons and getting 3/3 and it was against ai so I thought I suck | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6641 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236749 | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
Also http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=60601 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=135766 | ||
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Lumire
United States607 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On June 28 2011 07:51 jello_biafra wrote: Don't forget to check out ImbaTosS' guide for players switching from SC2 and search for other threads of this nature. Not that there's much toss stuff in there at the moment but it's a work in progress! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236749 we need to welcome all the SC2 refugees. anyway to the OP. You will not find anything better than Liquipedia. But you cant just read it copy it and understand the game. Check out the replay section here. So many sick games for any matchup. And also, if you can try and get a practice partner or a coach. Makes a big difference. | ||
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Chugger
United States2 Posts
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
Edit: Would love to hear a multitude of people's opinions on this. I am speaking about the game in a fairly long-term manner. | ||
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pedrotrv
Brazil117 Posts
You won't regret. I've lost 80% of my games, but BW is so much fun and rewarding. | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On June 30 2011 12:00 pedrotrv wrote: How have you started, 1 build per match up and 1 map? Seems kinda daunting, even though I have some RTS experience. I`ve started playing yesterday and games are not missing for me. Just go for ICCup, create your games and play with people with Anti Hack on. You won't regret. I've lost 80% of my games, but BW is so much fun and rewarding. | ||
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Hekisui
195 Posts
If you are interested, PM me. | ||
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pedrotrv
Brazil117 Posts
On June 30 2011 12:07 TheRPGAddict wrote: How have you started, 1 build per match up and 1 map? Seems kinda daunting, even though I have some RTS experience. You will lose a lot. I'm creating games in FS ou Tau Cross only, with only 1 build per race, as toss. In the beginning you will be lost, but you'll se a good difference in a few games. I skipped the part where you go vs AI, cause I hate it. I've done it to learn hotkeys only, and for strategy and builds I'm learning the hard way. Go to liquipedia, choose one good build for each match up and start having fun. It'll be easy to find games (just create like 1v1 FS D/D-). On a side note: Terrans are stomping my ass lol It's apparently impossible to do this match up without storm and arbiters. EDIT: Always remeber to see replay to find what you're lacking in macro, suply block and to learn the general timings. If you can get a good partner it will be even better. People at the op teamliquid channel are really helpful. | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On June 30 2011 12:23 pedrotrv wrote: I learned Starcraft 2 1 STANDARD build per matchup and I would love to use this method for BW because while encouraging solid mechanic habits it also helps one come to grips with strategy little by little. Can I add you so we can play together (trying to get a bunch of people)? I think I will run those builds versus the AI, my mechanics are pretty decent I would like to think, just need to get it into habit. You will lose a lot. I'm creating games in FS ou Tau Cross only, with only 1 build per race, as toss. In the beginning you will be lost, but you'll se a good difference in a few games. I skipped the part where you go vs AI, cause I hate it. I've done it to learn hotkeys only, and for strategy and builds I'm learning the hard way. Go to liquipedia, choose one good build for each match up and start having fun. It'll be easy to find games (just create like 1v1 FS D/D-). On a side note: Terrans are stomping my ass lol It's apparently impossible to do this match up without storm and arbiters. EDIT: Always remeber to see replay to find what you're lacking in macro, suply block and to learn the general timings. If you can get a good partner it will be even better. People at the op teamliquid channel are really helpful. | ||
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pedrotrv
Brazil117 Posts
I live on Brasil, so I don't know if our timezone will influence a lot in the time we play, but we can give a shot. First thing as you go online is /join op teamliquid. I'm not nearly near good, but we can practice together. And you can't think the mechanics here are as easy as SC2. I can produce scv's and macro all day long in SC2, but BW is way way harder to get used if you're coming from the the modern one. | ||
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FluqsBlood
United Kingdom5 Posts
I agree with the mechanics being a lot harder than SC2 (apparently workers can't auto mine if told to congregate on the mineral patch  and the hotkeys are a bit different so taking a while to get used to it) but hit me up on ICCup sometime if you fancy a game my name is sGs.Blood | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
You need to learn 1 standard build since it should apply to most maps at low level games vs each race (1gate fe vs terran) (2gate robo? vs protoss) (forge fe vs zerg) And practice your macro(macro is key in BW) and work on your mechanics / multi tasking. | ||
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eeniebear
United States197 Posts
On June 30 2011 12:35 TheRPGAddict wrote: I learned Starcraft 2 1 STANDARD build per matchup and I would love to use this method for BW because while encouraging solid mechanic habits it also helps one come to grips with strategy little by little. Can I add you so we can play together (trying to get a bunch of people)? I think I will run those builds versus the AI, my mechanics are pretty decent I would like to think, just need to get it into habit. You definitely can't do just one build for all matchups. I don't play toss, but as Terran, siege expand is the best opening in tvp, but if you do siege expand vs zerg, you're dead. Also, Terran bio doesn't work at all in tvp unless you're doing a very early 2 rax rush, which is kind of a cheese build. | ||
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nV[MB]
Poland58 Posts
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
TheGlassface D- Protoss/Zerg | ||
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Suisen
256 Posts
The only reason why you would play more than one BO anyway is because if you don't your opponents will know beforehand what build you play. But on ladder that isn't true. | ||
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Magus
Canada450 Posts
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Suisen
256 Posts
If you play just 1 or 2 games vs everyone on ladder they can't get a read and you will only be using an inferior BO if you choose to do more than 1. Now you may change your BO because your opponent has a 'tell'. But that's something else and not D level stuff either. For clarification, with BO I mean the stuff you do blindly before you can and should scout something. | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On July 02 2011 02:01 eeniebear wrote: Please read my post. I said PER MATCHUP and I am of course referring to starting the game as a beginner.You definitely can't do just one build for all matchups. I don't play toss, but as Terran, siege expand is the best opening in tvp, but if you do siege expand vs zerg, you're dead. Also, Terran bio doesn't work at all in tvp unless you're doing a very early 2 rax rush, which is kind of a cheese build. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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