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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
March 21 2015 21:23 GMT
#4321
This also depends the attacking units get hit before they attack. Normally, they will attack the closest possible target. However, if something attacks your unit, it will respond to the closest attacking unit. So if a siege tank hits a dragoon, the dragoon will begin walking towards the siege tank to attack it. Once a marine hits the dragoon, the dragoon will start attacking the marine.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
March 22 2015 00:44 GMT
#4322
On March 18 2015 07:56 HaFnium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 07:49 Kommatiazo wrote:
Hey guys, somewhat related question that I didn't want to start a thread for.

I remember seeing a VOD waaaaay back when of a guy 4 pooling (maybe some other super early pool) and he types in chat: "from?" right as he pushes to get the terran to start typing back instead of microing and gets in the wall and wins... It was hilarious. I've been searching all around youtube and TL, I know it's here somewhere but I think I just can't remember what exactly to search to get a hold of it.

Can anyone help me out?





It's a terran vs zerg though....


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grunge
Profile Joined May 2010
United States40 Posts
March 23 2015 08:09 GMT
#4323
How do you muta micro on fish? I'm on the east coast. Is the ping going to be too high to control mutas properly?
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ExBoshy
Profile Joined June 2014
118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 20:14:25
March 23 2015 16:13 GMT
#4324
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grunge
Profile Joined May 2010
United States40 Posts
March 23 2015 17:15 GMT
#4325
It allows the mutalisks to stack into a tight group, making it harder for an opponent to target a weakened mutalisk. It makes control easier, as it's sort of like controlling one unit if the group is tight enough.

It can be done with any non mutalisk, but usually the overlord is used because they move very slowly, and its an easy click. I've seen Killer do it with a zergling in the middle of his cluster of lings before, however.
When death smiles at you, all a man can do is smile back
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
March 23 2015 17:16 GMT
#4326
On March 24 2015 01:13 ExBoshy wrote:
What do players add overlord to a group of mutalisks for?

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Mutalisk_Harassment
read the section about muta grouping, it should answer your question
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sdjklahsjask
Profile Joined March 2015
Canada73 Posts
March 23 2015 23:58 GMT
#4327
On March 23 2015 17:09 grunge wrote:
How do you muta micro on fish? I'm on the east coast. Is the ping going to be too high to control mutas properly?

you just have to be more careful. what kind of nat/ping do you have?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
March 24 2015 08:35 GMT
#4328
On March 24 2015 02:15 grunge wrote:
It allows the mutalisks to stack into a tight group, making it harder for an opponent to target a weakened mutalisk. It makes control easier, as it's sort of like controlling one unit if the group is tight enough.

It can be done with any non mutalisk, but usually the overlord is used because they move very slowly, and its an easy click. I've seen Killer do it with a zergling in the middle of his cluster of lings before, however.


The best thing for stacking and you can use this for wraiths is a sieged up tank or a building SCV. The problem with the SCV though is eventually it stops building then it runs for the hills haha.
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 24 2015 08:54 GMT
#4329
Usually an scv behind a wall or trapped with buildings some way works well because most time's that you have wraiths and want to stack them you don't have a seiged tank (same as with a lurker and muta's).
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
March 25 2015 00:26 GMT
#4330
On March 24 2015 02:15 grunge wrote:
It allows the mutalisks to stack into a tight group, making it harder for an opponent to target a weakened mutalisk. It makes control easier, as it's sort of like controlling one unit if the group is tight enough.

It can be done with any non mutalisk, but usually the overlord is used because they move very slowly, and its an easy click. I've seen Killer do it with a zergling in the middle of his cluster of lings before, however.


It can be done with an other mutalisk, too. What matters is that one of the units is far away from the rest. Then, the rest will stack.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
March 25 2015 07:34 GMT
#4331
On March 24 2015 17:35 Qikz wrote:

The best thing for stacking and you can use this for wraiths is a sieged up tank or a building SCV. The problem with the SCV though is eventually it stops building then it runs for the hills haha.

Would a marine or 'bat in a bunker work? Haven't gotten around to trying it yet.


User was warned for being hilarious
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
March 25 2015 08:55 GMT
#4332
On March 25 2015 16:34 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2015 17:35 Qikz wrote:

The best thing for stacking and you can use this for wraiths is a sieged up tank or a building SCV. The problem with the SCV though is eventually it stops building then it runs for the hills haha.

Would a marine or 'bat in a bunker work? Haven't gotten around to trying it yet.



Sadly not, they're removed from the control group the moment they enter the bunker.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
March 25 2015 21:33 GMT
#4333
On March 25 2015 17:55 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2015 16:34 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On March 24 2015 17:35 Qikz wrote:

The best thing for stacking and you can use this for wraiths is a sieged up tank or a building SCV. The problem with the SCV though is eventually it stops building then it runs for the hills haha.

Would a marine or 'bat in a bunker work? Haven't gotten around to trying it yet.



Sadly not, they're removed from the control group the moment they enter the bunker.

Sieged tank it is, then. Makes one wish they just had a 'stack/unstack' button.


User was warned for being hilarious
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
March 25 2015 23:44 GMT
#4334
no one mentioned burrowed units?
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
March 27 2015 17:05 GMT
#4335
On March 26 2015 08:44 Mirabel_ wrote:
no one mentioned burrowed units?

Or larva
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
March 28 2015 08:50 GMT
#4336
Hey, what are my 6 hellions in TvZ supposed to achieve? I go reaper, expand, 6 hellion, additional rax, 3rd cc. I was playing expedition lost the other day and I ran my hellions and reaper up the zerg's ramp (blind) and into a bunch of lings/queens, lost them all and he bust me for the win.

Perhaps this isn't the best map for hellions, but usually I try and poke into the natural and it isn't a complete disaster, so should my hellions be aggressive or should I just hover around creep and try and deny it/delay a third from being taken?

Thanks.

(I watched a load of recent VODs on EL map but I didn't see anyone open similarly to me without going hellbat/banshee, which isn't very relevant to what I'm doing)
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 28 2015 08:57 GMT
#4337
Well this is BW forum but knowing absolutely nothing about sc2 my guess is that the hellions threaten a back stab that kills drones if he tries to allocate forces too early to delay your third (netting you ahead even with your third delayed). I'm pretty sure you don't want to suicide them and instead want to use them to just poke in and only commit if your opponent gives you the opportunity by herp derping onto the map with is army. You are effectively using a tiny force of units to pin back his whole army because if he moves out you can just take your third slower and enjoy being ahead from the drone kills you get.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
March 28 2015 09:29 GMT
#4338
On March 28 2015 17:57 puppykiller wrote:
Well this is BW forum but knowing absolutely nothing about sc2 my guess is that the hellions threaten a back stab that kills drones if he tries to allocate forces too early to delay your third (netting you ahead even with your third delayed). I'm pretty sure you don't want to suicide them and instead want to use them to just poke in and only commit if your opponent gives you the opportunity by herp derping onto the map with is army. You are effectively using a tiny force of units to pin back his whole army because if he moves out you can just take your third slower and enjoy being ahead from the drone kills you get.


Sorry, just realised I posted in the wrong thread! Thank you for your help anyway!
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ExBoshy
Profile Joined June 2014
118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 20:14:20
April 02 2015 03:26 GMT
#4339
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-02 04:07:55
April 02 2015 04:06 GMT
#4340
With the way BW works right now, its kind of hard to tell. But I'd give my top 3 for each race

Protoss:
Bisu (only played in KSL and TTSL so far)
Free (protoss with the strongest performance across all leagues)
Shuttle (distant third)

Terran:
Mind (winner of KSL and a beast, only game I saw since is TTSL group A)
Sea (winner of 41SL and an online beast)
Ssak (winner of SSL but I think I can also give this spot to Mong or Last)

Zerg:
Effort (FPV is insane, still looking for his first games in a tournament)
ZerO (zerg with strongest performance across all leagues)
Hero (distant third)

Oh wait, and who has the best ZvT right now? The Messiah of course
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