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Elky's many vultures on Dhalia

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ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
October 11 2004 00:16 GMT
#1
Is that a common strat ? i have been very impressed by elky's strat on Dhalia vs Naz in group k tiebreaker. He made only 4 tank in the whole game and went 12 factories mass vultures with dual upgrade, pumped out 132 vultures in 15 min and totally pwned Naz (who is far from being a newbie toss) :p. The replay is availiable on sG.com, whaddya guys think of this build ?

For elky haters i promise a topic on how much he sucked vs RRB :p
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
October 11 2004 00:20 GMT
#2
Goons + obs?
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
October 11 2004 00:25 GMT
#3
goons + obs got owned just too many vultures
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
October 11 2004 00:27 GMT
#4
Elky got an advantage from early game, delaying naz's expo, and some other things I don't remember,
He had the game secured, it almost didn't matter what he did to finish Nazgul, in my opinion.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
October 11 2004 00:37 GMT
#5
Nazgul himself said he simply got raped in this game, and that Elky played well.

I like this strat, as long as your opponent's economy is not so great, because it allows for cheap offense that doesnt have to win the game, as you have minerals to spare for expos.
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GroT
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Belgium3003 Posts
October 11 2004 00:51 GMT
#6
i can't find this replay on starcraftgamers t_t;;
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
October 11 2004 00:51 GMT
#7
I dont like it.

The key imo to dahlia tvp is taking the middle (it's hard to navigate around those walls). If terran has no tanks, its really hard to do that.

Honestly, all toss has to do is go goon/ob with a few photons at each base.

I didnt watch the rep yet though, so there may be something i m missing
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
October 11 2004 01:07 GMT
#8
where is teh rep?
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-11 01:23:27
October 11 2004 01:15 GMT
#9
I can't find it, where is this rep you speak of? :o
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Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
October 11 2004 01:29 GMT
#10
lol, funny game
this is many vultures ? yes ?
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
October 11 2004 01:34 GMT
#11
its a real nice strat, i remember like 6 months ago some nice terran owned me on dahlia doing the exact same thing, i still dunno what to do vs that
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
October 11 2004 01:50 GMT
#12
Where did you guys find this rep? I can't find it anywhere on the WCG site.
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suxN
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Finland1167 Posts
October 11 2004 01:52 GMT
#13
scout > 132 vultures
I dont want to be totally out :3
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
October 11 2004 01:54 GMT
#14
Testie did something similar to what you are describing vs arrang.
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
October 11 2004 02:04 GMT
#15
go to the "replays are out" thread, it's in there
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-11 02:10:42
October 11 2004 02:10 GMT
#16
K.

http://www.teamareola.com/phpBB/replays/1097518907.rep

I just downloaded the entire replay pack T_T
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ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
October 11 2004 02:33 GMT
#17
the rep is in the replay package section ---> group I --> P group K playoff
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-11 02:44:36
October 11 2004 02:38 GMT
#18
On October 11 2004 09:51 BigBalls wrote:
I dont like it.

The key imo to dahlia tvp is taking the middle (it's hard to navigate around those walls). If terran has no tanks, its really hard to do that.

Honestly, all toss has to do is go goon/ob with a few photons at each base.

I didnt watch the rep yet though, so there may be something i m missing


well that what puzzled me in this game, coz naz went goon obs with photon but belive me it was fucking raining vultures all over the map ^^ makes me think to NaDa vs Kingdom where Kingdom went fast double expo to counter NaDa's 1 fact expand and NaDa countered with fast 5 facts making tank with only his 1rst fact and steamrolled over Kingdom's goons.

edit :come to think of it situations were differents but what reminded me the game was that 1 it was a great game 2 NaDa's shitload of vult
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
October 11 2004 03:34 GMT
#19
his dragoons were all camping near his base, but they were in bad formation so the vutures managed to escape, like he should have separated them 2 to expo, 2 to main,4 in front of base. When his expo was build it he couldn't send probes till vultures dead, lost too much time teran already building 2nd exp, overexpanded+part of his early army died to mines = toss lose.
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DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
October 11 2004 03:41 GMT
#20
If u can get some momentum going, it is a really good strat, i did it a bunch of times in USA online prelim. Really good strat :O~
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