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ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
October 11 2004 03:49 GMT
#21
yeah elky did that vs me too, pretty hard to stop
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
October 11 2004 04:06 GMT
#22
I've seen a version of it done with vult/gol, where t constantly scans and hits obs with gol.

however, i really dont think this should work with good unit positioning (unless the p is behind early).
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
October 11 2004 04:09 GMT
#23
Actually....

If toss tries to expo far away, it gets eaten up. I've seen similar versions on nostalgia (where there is no gas at the natural expo), and the toss ends up separating his units and loses an expo or two to mass vults.

The key to beating it is photons, not making stray expos, and taking good care of your units, which includes good obs control.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
October 11 2004 07:49 GMT
#24
This strat totally rocks and though it doesn't always win its super fun to play, non stop multi task and harass. I've been opening almost all my recent tvps with a vult build and going for non-stop vulture harassment, vs anyone who isn't good, ir can just tear them apart. It fails when a toss is really solid and doesn't let you cause any real damage. my favorite is going mass vulture raids for a while, then switcihing all of my 6-8 facts into machine shop tank producers, you have tons of gas saved, and if you killed enough of the tosses units with vults alone it becomes easy to overrun with tanks. That one works well on lt when toss expands to differant main.
4 cheers for Ryan307
cav
Profile Joined August 2004
Pitcairn514 Posts
October 11 2004 09:13 GMT
#25
it is comparable to going all lings zvp, you should try to get an early game advantage before going all out lings (or vults for this matter)
worst.player
Profile Joined July 2004
625 Posts
October 11 2004 09:14 GMT
#26
this is elky's game. mass expo with mass vults with mass mines. works best on nostalgia. at least the mass random mines.
SoL.Origin
Profile Joined September 2003
Argentina2400 Posts
October 11 2004 09:30 GMT
#27
ok i will tell you the key to winning tvp on maps where the nat has no gas

when you have exp, you must have 6 factories, 2 with addon, and 1 starport

make tanks only from those 2 factories

spare gas will make stopping carriers easy

watch korean tvp reps, they do this on every map because it works no matter if you have a gas exp

obviously your vulture+drop micro must not suck
Son Of Law
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
October 11 2004 09:42 GMT
#28
Bigballs, those insane amounts of mines makes holding bridges really easy with just a few tanks :O

I obsed naz vs elky before wcg where he did a similiar thing, oh yah and unless he's changed it since then, he goes upgrades really quickly :D

Vultures with upgrades are NASTY!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
October 11 2004 09:52 GMT
#29
yay go vultures ^_^
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BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
October 11 2004 10:38 GMT
#30
On October 11 2004 18:42 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Bigballs, those insane amounts of mines makes holding bridges really easy with just a few tanks :O

I obsed naz vs elky before wcg where he did a similiar thing, oh yah and unless he's changed it since then, he goes upgrades really quickly :D

Vultures with upgrades are NASTY!


they said he had 4 tanks the whole game...
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
October 11 2004 12:11 GMT
#31
I assumed he was exaggerating :X

He had way more than that when I obsed him o.O/played him (even though it never even got to that point on dahlia vs him :D)
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
N.sL)_CirCle
Profile Joined December 2002
New Zealand478 Posts
October 11 2004 13:11 GMT
#32
supa gosu...mass vults is hard to stop t.t I hate them, give me mass tanks or tank/vult combo any day!
I'm home with the downies
N.sL)_CirCle
Profile Joined December 2002
New Zealand478 Posts
October 11 2004 13:12 GMT
#33
mmmm...commander[sb] you still play? I just start again :D (had like my 11th break this year :D) hoho...way outta practice :O

Where you guys hang out now?
I'm home with the downies
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
October 11 2004 13:48 GMT
#34
On October 11 2004 21:11 FrozenArbiter wrote:
I assumed he was exaggerating :X

He had way more than that when I obsed him o.O/played him (even though it never even got to that point on dahlia vs him :D)


nono i wasn't exaggerating, he really did make 4 tanks the whole game just check the unit distribution on bwchart :p
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
October 11 2004 14:21 GMT
#35
vultures can really dish out so much damage with their 26 concussive damage and having 3 mines that do 125 splash damage WTF

they only cost 75 minerals. thats really good.

if you use them correctly you can just rush into a whole group of goons place a lot of mines and run away and see like 30 goons die. the only real good way to beat this imo is good storm useage or something like carriers . reavers could work also.
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
October 11 2004 14:45 GMT
#36
http://www.yaoyuan.com/download.php?action=soft&id=26193

Only works if you've got a good start... T early expo, P counter double expo, loses some goons early cheap, then gets done for the rest.
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
October 11 2004 15:22 GMT
#37
i've always felt vulture is most cost efficient unit in the game
too easy
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
October 11 2004 15:23 GMT
#38
On October 11 2004 23:21 ahk-gosu wrote:
vultures can really dish out so much damage with their 26 concussive damage and having 3 mines that do 125 splash damage WTF

they only cost 75 minerals. thats really good.

if you use them correctly you can just rush into a whole group of goons place a lot of mines and run away and see like 30 goons die. the only real good way to beat this imo is good storm useage or something like carriers . reavers could work also.

No you can't.

30 goons. LOL
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
October 11 2004 15:24 GMT
#39
That's 60 supply you know -- They'd have to stand in the dumbest formation without an observer for that to happen!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
October 11 2004 16:49 GMT
#40
On October 12 2004 00:24 FrozenArbiter wrote:
That's 60 supply you know -- They'd have to stand in the dumbest formation without an observer for that to happen!
not to mention holding stop until the vultures completely surrounded
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
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