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Regentropfen
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany277 Posts
October 12 2004 22:50 GMT
#61
well, elky did not use any "new" strat at all, i think main reasons for winning were old fashioned
a) more res
b) better macro
c) better micro
=> win
War is not about whos right, its about whos left
ChoboSan
Profile Joined August 2004
China12 Posts
October 12 2004 23:45 GMT
#62
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Be Chobo
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
October 13 2004 00:19 GMT
#63
Trek vs Dante on Bifrost in f2f was a cool vult tvtgame
Enter a Uh
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
October 13 2004 01:09 GMT
#64
On October 13 2004 07:50 Regentropfen wrote:
well, elky did not use any "new" strat at all, i think main reasons for winning were old fashioned
a) more res
b) better macro
c) better micro
=> win


well 4 tanks and 132 vultures can hardly be called a conventional TvP.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
SexyPerLiGO
Profile Joined October 2004
226 Posts
October 13 2004 14:19 GMT
#65
On October 12 2004 20:45 exalted wrote:
You can't win just comming out with a vult army but since you have so many vults if they leave ONE opening, say they leave their expo at another main open for a second, you can run in with 24 vultures, he can have 3 cannons or whatever and you can kill everything including the nexus before goons have the possibility of running up that ramp and protecting it. Ive been playing mass vult strat for a long time without dropship and yes, I'm not good but it's very very effective and I was surprised pros didn't use vults as much before. Ask gosexyperli (where are you, haven't seen you post in a while)


bACK FROM AFK

yes i remember those games.
I also remember winning.

it was annoying to fight against though.
GoSexyPerli ok?
asticx
Profile Joined February 2004
China100 Posts
October 13 2004 21:01 GMT
#66
On October 11 2004 10:54 Okita wrote:
Testie did something similar to what you are describing vs arrang.


That's what I wanna to say
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
October 13 2004 21:04 GMT
#67
Yes that's becuase I couldn't macro at the time T_T (and was doing lots of vulture harass but in the end the 3base vs 2 base caught up), lets fight again sometime~~~~

im plasma_ at useast
too easy
straka1984
Profile Joined September 2004
Bulgaria19 Posts
October 13 2004 21:17 GMT
#68
i hate elky and the funny thing is i dunno why. (probably cause he kicked beast`s ass some time ago))
thelucas
Profile Joined October 2004
Slovakia285 Posts
October 13 2004 23:18 GMT
#69
i try that strategy too
this is possibility to show what is perfection
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
October 13 2004 23:44 GMT
#70
On October 14 2004 06:17 straka1984 wrote:
i hate elky and the funny thing is i dunno why. (probably cause he kicked beast`s ass some time ago))


Elky showed gosu TvT during wcg but he was overconfident with his TvZ coz he thought he had no serious danger in that MU, all of his TvZ were very mediocre in fact, the game vs kheir was superclose and vs that taiwanese guy he had the game so much in the bag but he failed to secure a 2nd expo (probably thinking he wouldn't need one as he was raping his opponent's main base and natural)

Totally off topic but i've watched the games Testie vs forU and they kick ass, forU = perfect templar ^^ that made me think that many foreigners suck at PvZ because of their sloppy micro (of course compared to korean pros)
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
October 14 2004 00:50 GMT
#71
On October 14 2004 08:44 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2004 06:17 straka1984 wrote:
i hate elky and the funny thing is i dunno why. (probably cause he kicked beast`s ass some time ago))


Elky showed gosu TvT during wcg but he was overconfident with his TvZ coz he thought he had no serious danger in that MU, all of his TvZ were very mediocre in fact, the game vs kheir was superclose and vs that taiwanese guy he had the game so much in the bag but he failed to secure a 2nd expo (probably thinking he wouldn't need one as he was raping his opponent's main base and natural)

Totally off topic but i've watched the games Testie vs forU and they kick ass, forU = perfect templar ^^ that made me think that many foreigners suck at PvZ because of their sloppy micro (of course compared to korean pros)


That's not the biggest difference between foreigner pvz and korean. From what i have seen, almost all foreigners (with the exception of draco) leave units behind in pvz and are not fighting at maximum potential all game. The games I play really well are the ones where i constantly bring units to battle and constantly pressure. Unfortunately that happens inconsitently.
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
cy1229
Profile Joined September 2004
China21 Posts
October 14 2004 13:26 GMT
#72
Elky Marco Gamer
dddd
JustFun
Profile Joined September 2004
Estonia77 Posts
October 14 2004 13:27 GMT
#73
vultures rule ...i use them also on tvt
I love sexy zergs
yeehaw
Profile Joined October 2004
San Marino888 Posts
October 14 2004 22:17 GMT
#74
On October 14 2004 09:50 BigBalls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2004 08:44 ChApFoU wrote:
On October 14 2004 06:17 straka1984 wrote:
i hate elky and the funny thing is i dunno why. (probably cause he kicked beast`s ass some time ago))


Elky showed gosu TvT during wcg but he was overconfident with his TvZ coz he thought he had no serious danger in that MU, all of his TvZ were very mediocre in fact, the game vs kheir was superclose and vs that taiwanese guy he had the game so much in the bag but he failed to secure a 2nd expo (probably thinking he wouldn't need one as he was raping his opponent's main base and natural)

Totally off topic but i've watched the games Testie vs forU and they kick ass, forU = perfect templar ^^ that made me think that many foreigners suck at PvZ because of their sloppy micro (of course compared to korean pros)


That's not the biggest difference between foreigner pvz and korean. From what i have seen, almost all foreigners (with the exception of draco) leave units behind in pvz and are not fighting at maximum potential all game. The games I play really well are the ones where i constantly bring units to battle and constantly pressure. Unfortunately that happens inconsitently.


Exactly. Leaving units behind is sloppy micro all right. Same goes for not attacking flanks at same time.
G_G
Mouriner
Profile Joined March 2004
Brazil396 Posts
October 15 2004 02:37 GMT
#75
i didnt see the rep, but i think tha naz did a lot of zeas, bacause goon > vult
Regentropfen
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany277 Posts
October 15 2004 02:49 GMT
#76
On October 13 2004 10:09 ChApFoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2004 07:50 Regentropfen wrote:
well, elky did not use any "new" strat at all, i think main reasons for winning were old fashioned
a) more res
b) better macro
c) better micro
=> win


well 4 tanks and 132 vultures can hardly be called a conventional TvP.


ur right, unit choice was not that conevntional, but at a certain point in the game elky could build whatever unit he wants to and still win cause he had more res and 1/1 ups with 2/2 on the way while naz was 0/0/0
(so i think it was not a conventional tvp BUT the main reasons why elky won were not his "new" unit choice but others as mentioned above)
War is not about whos right, its about whos left
mcmascote
Profile Joined September 2004
Brazil1575 Posts
October 15 2004 04:33 GMT
#77
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The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.
taDa
Profile Joined October 2004
575 Posts
October 15 2004 05:59 GMT
#78
ElkY's TvZ has disappeared. RRB is a very strong player and dominated him.
GG
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10708 Posts
October 15 2004 06:03 GMT
#79
On October 13 2004 05:09 exalted wrote:
aldaris's voice is so sexy he can scout me anytime

yeah but baal it's not 5 vults, it's more like 12-24, and 12 can take down 2 cannons, and once they breach that ramp reinforcements aren't oging to make it up there for like 30 seconds, enough to rape every probe and POSSIBLY kill the nexus, seriously.

obviously its not an autowin strat nor is it even uber strong, but I'm a big fan of it and have won many tvp on pure vult -_-


when did i said 2 cannons?, if you see so many vultures you put 5 cannons, reinforcements will ariba before the cannons are killed and the vultures will be fried.
Im back, in pog form!
mastaren
Profile Joined November 2003
Eritrea69 Posts
October 15 2004 07:13 GMT
#80
ohhh it sounds cool, unfortunaly my starcraft cd is broken so i have to wait until wcg.com realse the vod
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