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Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
December 26 2009 07:18 GMT
#121
That PvZ build with fast arbiters + corsairs + Speed zealots... I was thinking this would be the next revolutionary build or something... maybe not... er...

I dont know if this has been said or not but...

Try for TvT
SK Terran
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 09:58:42
December 26 2009 08:55 GMT
#122
TvP
After securing a 2nd or possibly a 3rd, try going for a 2+ dropship full of MnM with stim (range not too necessary) in order to destroy P's tech in the main. This should be attempted before Arbiters come out, preferably.

PvAnything
Simultaneous storm drops on every mining base to attempt to kill every worker the opponent has.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
December 26 2009 12:20 GMT
#123
Wow what an awesome idea! Will def. follow the results
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
mmgoose
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
769 Posts
December 26 2009 12:39 GMT
#124
tvp

pure vultures + ghosts.

go
And you know if a grandmother had a penis she would be a grandfather.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
December 26 2009 12:57 GMT
#125
This is an excellent ZvZ build that I always use when I offrace on a 1v1 map:

[Kinda Allin] Burrow and Speed-Ling Rush


Get gas before pool aka. 9 gas 8 pool (u gonna need a lotta gas early).
As soon as pool pops get speed then gas.
Make only lings and kill off all of his drones.



How it is executed

Send your initial 6 lings to his base as normal to harass and put pressure.

Make a few more drones after, these are the last ones that you will make. You will be too far behind to be able to catch up in Muta count. This strategy is desigend to catch your opponent off guard and kill enough drones that he'll not be able to make any mutas, or like 1 or 2, and by then you'll have spores. I got the idea from that Boxer vid of demonstrating correct zergling micro, same idea. Pressure them, burrow some lings right outside of their base, lure their lings out of their base and run in + kill. The best part of getting burrow is not oly being able to set ambushes, it is being able to harass their mineral line, then burrow, fight them in their base, get out of ovie sight range, then hide. If you keep on running lings into their base and hiding them, it works well.

Another thing you need to do is throw down another hatch in your main and take drones offa gas.
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bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
December 26 2009 13:00 GMT
#126
Oh and another TvP build, is go enough wraiths that you can snipe observers in one hit and pure vultures. You'll put your gas on wraiths and mins on vults, mine up and kill tha goons
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Lurgee
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia252 Posts
December 26 2009 13:00 GMT
#127
TvP 2base firebat drop on mineral line.
PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
December 26 2009 13:05 GMT
#128
pvz open with scouts instead of corsair
Once again back is the incredible!
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
December 26 2009 14:04 GMT
#129
PvP 2 base arbiter. Go 1 gate expand then get observers and then arbiters with stasis. The main prize would be to stasis the shuttle and reavers when the battle begins.
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ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
December 26 2009 14:22 GMT
#130
TvP
1 base 3 fact pure vult (1 addon for upgrades, but no tanks, stop mining gas after you have mined enough)
You may have to cut scvs some for this to work, but the idea is to hit them before they have a reaver, needs good vult micro.


EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
December 26 2009 17:58 GMT
#131
Please try this!

TvZ

m&m + ghost drop @ using flare to blind ovis and nuking the zerg's main or expos.

arcticStorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States295 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 00:24:56
December 27 2009 00:17 GMT
#132
TvZ

After getting science facility, stop marine production, go for ghost firebat medic vessel army. Blind overlords, irradiate lurkers, lockdown everything else, and NUKE.

Edit: sorry being idiot...lockdown doesn't work on bio units TT
This statement is a lie.
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 27 2009 00:21 GMT
#133
On December 27 2009 09:17 arcticStorm wrote:
TvZ

After getting science facility, stop marine production, go for ghost firebat medic vessel army. Blind overlords, irradiate lurkers, lockdown everything else, and NUKE.

you realize thats not possible? you would need like 2 double gas expos to support that huge gas-intensive army. plus, LOCKDOWN DOESN'T WORK VS ZERG, THEY DON'T HAVE MECHANICAL UNITS.
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
December 27 2009 00:28 GMT
#134
Try 7rax into overlord snipe on HBR against good zergs--especially against a range of builds, not just 12hatch
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 27 2009 00:36 GMT
#135
PvZ: Get 2 base, but only get enough gas to get robo, +1 attack, and zeal speed. Make about 4 shuttles and mass zealots and drop the guy's main (make sure he doesn't get mutas lol).
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51466 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 01:19:25
December 27 2009 01:19 GMT
#136
the stove
and not the fancy pants new way, the real way.
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lt.dunbar
Profile Joined January 2009
United States29 Posts
December 27 2009 01:39 GMT
#137
try this in ZvT
go 2 hatch lurkers with fast queens nest
when lurkers pop don't attack just contain the terran
build queens and broodling any tanks he builds to break the contain
double expo and tech to ultras asap
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
December 27 2009 02:16 GMT
#138
PvZ - FE into Proxy 2Stargate^^
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
arcticStorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States295 Posts
December 27 2009 02:34 GMT
#139
On December 27 2009 10:39 lt.dunbar wrote:
try this in ZvT
go 2 hatch lurkers with fast queens nest
when lurkers pop don't attack just contain the terran
build queens and broodling any tanks he builds to break the contain
double expo and tech to ultras asap


ensnare + scourge science vessels at the same time would be nice too
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
December 27 2009 03:14 GMT
#140
you might want to just upload a proleague video for the ghosts instead of SV's

really did it versus someone.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
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