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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 03:03:57
July 27 2009 14:07 GMT
#1
Okay, I couldn't think of a more original name. =/

Version 2.2
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Changes from previous version:
- Reduced gas below town hall to 2000
- Fixed temple gaps
- Fixed crystal gap near 6
- Fixed nat cliffable area

Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?gznq5duajmm (Version 2.2)

+ Show Spoiler [Version 2.1] +
[image loading]


Changes from previous version:
- 3 temples at jungle ramps removed
- Psi Disruptor added at nat gas so that it has to be destroyed to mine gas from it


+ Show Spoiler [Version 2.0] +
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Changes from previous version:
- Removed dark swarms
- Added 2 mineral-only expos at center of map
- Fixed temple glitch


+ Show Spoiler [Version 1] +
The eye in the center is for decoration purposes lol

Anyway, here's my latest map:

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Features:
- Main: 10M 2G (1500/5000)
- Nat: 8M 1G (1500/5000)
- Mineral-only expo at 12/6: 5M (1500)
- Corner expo at 5/11: 7M 1G (1500/5000)

- 2 Dark Swarms at corner expos
- Crystals are for blocking the small gaps between raised jungle terrain and high dirt terrain, nothing special
- 3 non-stacked temples at jungle ramp to prevent fast rushes
- 2 5x stack temples at 'backyard' that opens up new route
- 2x power generators to tighten choke at mineral-only expo
- Jungle ramps are unbuildable



Not sure about balance though. Feedback and comments welcome. (Might work on the aesthetic part later on)

Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?em0lyfnojzt (Version 1)
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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
July 27 2009 14:11 GMT
#2
Perm Dark Swarm? Zerg Imba expos
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hcliff454
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada127 Posts
July 27 2009 14:19 GMT
#3
Is there any way we can download it to try it out? I think it'd be cool to play on
dworn it -lz
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 27 2009 14:23 GMT
#4
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?em0lyfnojzt

There you go
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 27 2009 14:35 GMT
#5
zerg imba dark swarms man...
you have that ramp up WITH dark swarm. a zerg gets 2 free expos
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 27 2009 14:39 GMT
#6
I only put the dark swarms because I thought Zerg would lose out compared to other races @_@

So what if I remove the dark swarms? More balanced?
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
July 27 2009 14:40 GMT
#7
zvz map, for sure. walking distances are very long compared to air distance

plus, the swarms. we all learned a thing or two from persona.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 27 2009 14:46 GMT
#8
Okay what if you were to play non ZvZs? How?
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Elite00fm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States548 Posts
July 27 2009 14:50 GMT
#9
This map looks really fun to play actually haha
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
July 27 2009 14:50 GMT
#10
if you make a 2 player map with an even expo count don't make the middle that huge :\
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 27 2009 14:50 GMT
#11
Looking at the location of that swawm, in ZvT Zergs just got two free expos.
:]
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
July 27 2009 14:51 GMT
#12
Seems like a really frustrating map to play on.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 27 2009 14:52 GMT
#13
On July 27 2009 23:50 RaGe wrote:
if you make a 2 player map with an even expo count don't make the middle that huge :\

Haha it felt rather big too, but didn't know what to do with it.

I'll try to think of something.
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Horangi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Hong Kong226 Posts
July 27 2009 15:05 GMT
#14
just tried the map out, you can just walk through the 2 5x temples, so you might wanna fix that, but overall, the map is pretty fun to imo, but the distance is a bit too big tbh :/
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
July 27 2009 15:05 GMT
#15
Super imba ZvT? Is that even possible on every single icc level, 2hat lurk opening, into securing those 2 gases with swarm, into 5gas filer/ultra/gaurd, how the heck are you supposed to beat that as T oO. 3gas muta off 2 base makes pure muta harass really impossible to defend against too with the amount of mutas that you can pump :/
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 15:21:36
July 27 2009 15:19 GMT
#16
Updated

Mid still looks ugly imo lol
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saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
July 27 2009 15:22 GMT
#17
Would the two gas in main be imbalanced for zerg and toss? though Terran can benefit from it a lot too.
Looks like Z will go heavy air on this map. Terran will turtle and Toss would recall. Yeah.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 27 2009 15:26 GMT
#18
Yeah which is why I'm not sure about balance. Considering reducing the gas to 3500 each.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
July 27 2009 15:39 GMT
#19
Okay updated again

Hopefully it's more balanced now
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ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
July 27 2009 15:45 GMT
#20
Ok, gonna try this at lunch! Thx koni, looks really cool :3
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 27 2009 15:51 GMT
#21
Nice map! I'll try it out with a friend sometime. ^^
I'm glad you got rid of the swarms though, it makes the map a lot less zerg-friendly.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
July 27 2009 16:00 GMT
#22
are those temples stacked? (in the back of your main?)
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
July 27 2009 16:12 GMT
#23
Yeah, I'll give this one a few plays too. It looks like a nice map to play on.

I wonder if it might be a nice idea to, sorry if this is too much of an adjustment, instead of having those two middle expos, put a river/body of water running across the middle, with a bridge or three dividing the north and south sides.

Again, sorry if that is changing your idea too much. I just thought I'd throw it out there.
Horangi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Hong Kong226 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 16:40:51
July 27 2009 16:36 GMT
#24
no download for the last version?
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 27 2009 16:47 GMT
#25
looks bad for TvP

too much early game gas, protoss will just mass HTs and storm the crap out of terran off 2 bases
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 27 2009 16:52 GMT
#26
Looks fun..
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 16:59:17
July 27 2009 16:58 GMT
#27
On July 28 2009 01:47 Sunyveil wrote:
too much early game gas, protoss will just mass HTs and storm the crap out of terran off 2 bases


Yeah, I just played a quick PvT and it seems like it would be a bit imbalanced in that regard.


Also, there are gaps at the top of the stacked temples on the left side, and on the bottom of them on the right side. Even Dragoons and Tanks can fit through there, so the main isn't really well protected.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
July 27 2009 17:05 GMT
#28
The natural expo on the left side of the map appears to have a place where you can drop a tank and cliff. The right side natural expo does not.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
July 27 2009 17:18 GMT
#29
This map looks really nice now. The two base 3 gas might be suitable for some cool strats like 2 base hive vs terran or 3 port vessel right away vs zerg or like a really fast goon / ht / archon push pvz. A lot of gas makes for more fun play imo and the map design seems to suit itself for some wierd push timings. Good job. Too bad no one will ever play it competetively
KhaosKreator
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada145 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 22:38:25
July 27 2009 22:16 GMT
#30
Have you thought about giving one of the two main gases less starting resources? Like say, 1500 and 500?

Alternatively, you could have a normal second expo geyser, and instead put the Psi Disruptor building over one of the two geysers in the main. It could make for some interesting ZvZ that way.
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-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
July 27 2009 22:33 GMT
#31
I don't know if I like the idea of so much free gas, you need an incentive to take expansions imo. Then again I haven't played the map yet so I can't properly comment, those are just my initial thoughts.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
July 27 2009 22:42 GMT
#32
How about Backyard? or Garden, cause the mains look like one with the grass floor and the "fence" around it : )
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Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
July 27 2009 23:05 GMT
#33
Looks like an interesting map. I wonder what it would be like with no ramps?
seNsiX.421
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66159 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 03:07:38
July 28 2009 03:04 GMT
#34
Okay updated to version 2.2, please have a look!

Anyone wanna play? :p
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