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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 09:51:21
June 28 2009 12:50 GMT
#1
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This is the second installment in the 안녕하세요: Messages from the Korean Progamers series - a collaboration between myself and Konadora - bringing you messages and research from the Korean progamers. Tonight I'm happy to share messages from the players over at Hwaseung OZ (kindly provided by the players and coaching staff after Proleague on Saturday.)

Please check here for the eSTRO messages: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=95640

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Backho:

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(Backho is refering to the Get Well Soon card sent via myself from members of Teamliquid a couple of months ago after he returned from his back injury related absence.)

Jaedong:

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Lomo:

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Bonus:

Here are some shots of Jaedong and Lomo writing their messages for the Hwaseung cards;

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Thank you once again to the coaching staff, players and management of OZ for giving us this chance to listen to the pro-players. I'm hoping to expand this project month by month to provide more interesting little snippets from the Korean players.


우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
June 28 2009 12:53 GMT
#2
This is such an awesome feature.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 28 2009 12:55 GMT
#3
On June 28 2009 21:53 RaGe wrote:
This is such an awesome feature.


Thank you I'm going to expand it to some simple and fun surveys in the future like 'favourite unit.' 'Favourite match up' and more personal things like 'favourite band/singer or hobby etc.'


There's more, but everyone will have to wait about an hour to find out who they're from... *is cryptic.*
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
June 28 2009 13:00 GMT
#4
Nice, i always love hearing from progamers directly. Thank you so much NeverGG and Konadora
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
June 28 2009 13:01 GMT
#5
Nice cards from backho and lomo, jaedong's reply was a little bit too standard .
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 28 2009 13:05 GMT
#6
On June 28 2009 22:01 Shauni wrote:
Nice cards from backho and lomo, jaedong's reply was a little bit too standard .

Or is it? Perhaps he's referring to the fact that he would get to go overseas to play in Blizzcon if/when he wins GOM?

...probably not.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 28 2009 13:06 GMT
#7
Very neat. I like Lomo 's card best.
觀過斯知仁矣.
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
June 28 2009 13:06 GMT
#8
this is so cool!

thanks a million NeverGG!
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
June 28 2009 13:07 GMT
#9
EE JAE DONG <3 !!
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 28 2009 13:07 GMT
#10
On June 28 2009 22:01 Shauni wrote:
Nice cards from backho and lomo, jaedong's reply was a little bit too standard .


I've basically got no control over what is written once the book is in the gamer's hands so I'm hoping to gradually build upon the project as I mentioned.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
oneill
Profile Joined August 2004
Philippines278 Posts
June 28 2009 13:08 GMT
#11
I want to see a Progame team go to euro and play with others foreigners, or a special korea vs korea team abroad
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 28 2009 13:09 GMT
#12
oh my god this is a nice feature, thanks a million NeverGG & Konadora, keep it up!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
June 28 2009 13:12 GMT
#13
thanks kona and nevergg!!

<3 oz
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3116 Posts
June 28 2009 13:13 GMT
#14
Sweet.

Thanks a lot for doing all of this, NeverGG and Konadora.

And, if I may ask, do you have any idea what team you might be doing next?
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
June 28 2009 13:15 GMT
#15
yay awesome cards! Thanks NeverGG and Konadora!
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tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
June 28 2009 13:16 GMT
#16
Awesome work, once again.
Please keep it up, you're amazing.

I like Lomo's card the more, so far, he's really going into it more than the others.
Jaedong's will to play "overseas" is also very interresting.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 28 2009 13:16 GMT
#17
I love Lomo
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
GrimAngel
Profile Joined September 2008
United States416 Posts
June 28 2009 13:22 GMT
#18
^ who isn't homo for lomo

thanks again!
Wan step ahead!
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
June 28 2009 13:24 GMT
#19
I wish jaedong would do TL.attack. I want to verse him!
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 28 2009 13:25 GMT
#20
On June 28 2009 22:13 Captain Peabody wrote:
Sweet.

Thanks a lot for doing all of this, NeverGG and Konadora.

And, if I may ask, do you have any idea what team you might be doing next?


SKT1 has just been posted I'm not sure who will be next - I'd like to surprise everyone.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7219 Posts
June 28 2009 13:29 GMT
#21
LOL, Lomo's reply is great :D
thanks a lot for these nevergg/kona
Entusman #12
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
June 28 2009 13:34 GMT
#22
Thanks for the awesome work, really love to see this, especially from JD. The letter we sent to Backho probably worked as his play improved tenfold since his injury and he actually plays with his head now
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
June 28 2009 13:39 GMT
#23
thanks nevergg... thanks for posting skt1 as well
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
June 28 2009 13:53 GMT
#24
Lomo has really cute face. He is so natural that's awesome.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 13:55 GMT
#25
<333 I cannot thank you guys enough for the effort you are putting into this.
Peace~
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 28 2009 14:03 GMT
#26
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
June 28 2009 14:07 GMT
#27
Backho fighting

Thanks NeverGG!!!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66286 Posts
June 28 2009 14:08 GMT
#28
I was thinking as I was doing the translation that one day Jaedong will play in Singapore :<
POGGERS
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
June 28 2009 14:10 GMT
#29
On June 28 2009 22:25 NeverGG wrote:
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On June 28 2009 22:13 Captain Peabody wrote:
Sweet.

Thanks a lot for doing all of this, NeverGG and Konadora.

And, if I may ask, do you have any idea what team you might be doing next?


SKT1 has just been posted I'm not sure who will be next - I'd like to surprise everyone.


Ace?

If you want surprise, try + Show Spoiler +
KeSPA
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StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
June 28 2009 14:14 GMT
#30
Awesome stuff, its awesome to see what the progamers actually say
IIf your good at Starcraft, Your good at life. - Artosis
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 28 2009 14:57 GMT
#31
This is really neat NeverGG...have to say, OZ's messages were more exciting than T1's! I love BackHo, it's so cool that he mentioned your card.
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
June 28 2009 16:17 GMT
#32
Yay for Backho. Thanks for your work, Kona and NeverGG.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
June 28 2009 16:20 GMT
#33
epic, thanks to everyone involved <3
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 28 2009 16:35 GMT
#34
Wow, that's just amazing!

lol @ lomo giving us his play style though
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
June 28 2009 16:56 GMT
#35
these are soooooo much win!
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Tertiary
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
66 Posts
June 28 2009 17:00 GMT
#36
Man JD's handwriting is abysmal. Massive effort from you both.
fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
June 28 2009 17:11 GMT
#37
Lomo :3!

Thanks for this
AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
June 28 2009 18:09 GMT
#38
Ah, thank you for these! They're awesome!

I hope Jaedong plays overseas soon ;(
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 28 2009 18:13 GMT
#39
Jaedong wants to play at Blizzcon! nice! haha
blabberrrrr
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 20:13:09
June 28 2009 20:12 GMT
#40
Backhooooooooooooooooo is the man... and Jaedong is so awesome... he is really trying to play on blizzcon and learning english to be like SaviOr saying: I will destroy all in 2010! or something like that.

Lomo is awesome to... I still remember his wraith micro =P


edit: LOL sorry but I forgot: THANK YOU NEVERGG and Konadora... thx thx thx
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
Oedi
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada265 Posts
June 28 2009 20:20 GMT
#41
GOOO JAEDONG and Oz!! :D Thanks NeverGG
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
June 28 2009 20:32 GMT
#42
thank you both so much for the effort! greatly appreciated.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
June 28 2009 20:32 GMT
#43
I'm like.. hey, I'm not overseas ._.


thx anyway Neverdora!
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
Tbird
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada42 Posts
June 28 2009 20:45 GMT
#44
Thanks for all the effort being put into these! They're awesome!
入るを計りて出ずるを制す
x89titan
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Philippines1130 Posts
June 28 2009 20:56 GMT
#45
to jaedong: please us by getting the golden mouse.
Heaven came down and glory filled my soul, when at the cross the Savior made me whole
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
June 28 2009 21:23 GMT
#46
Ah I SERIOUSLY love this project you have going... loved these messages from OZ boys I'm glad Backho loved his card. It would be freaking awesome if Jaedong got to play overseas... I think seeing the number of fans he has internationally besides just hearing about it would be pretty damn cool. And Lomo's quick summary of his style was cute hahaha.

Thank you so much NeverGG/kona
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
June 30 2009 05:59 GMT
#47
I absolutely LOVE this feature. Thank you.
ModeratorGodfather
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
June 30 2009 06:08 GMT
#48
It would bw cool having nick of players also..not all the members can recognize them from photo or from korean name..
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 30 2009 06:47 GMT
#49
On June 30 2009 15:08 LuDwig- wrote:
It would bw cool having nick of players also..not all the members can recognize them from photo or from korean name..


I'll add the romanized name to the rest of the cards, but seen as most of them begin with 'Hello, I am such and such.' I didn't think it was necessary.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
June 30 2009 06:54 GMT
#50
wow thanks a lot.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
June 30 2009 07:12 GMT
#51
Im sure tl 3 years ago could not even dream about something like this!
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
June 30 2009 07:16 GMT
#52
Neggy - have you linked any of the players to these threads? I'm sure they would like to see your finalized messages too. Make them feel closer to the foreign fans. ^^

Awesome project, good job!!
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 30 2009 07:23 GMT
#53
On June 30 2009 16:16 lilsusie wrote:
Neggy - have you linked any of the players to these threads? I'm sure they would like to see your finalized messages too. Make them feel closer to the foreign fans. ^^

Awesome project, good job!!


I might print out the cards in the near future and give them to the players involved so they can see the results of the research I promised to post this on the Hwaseung site so I'm going to tonight ^^ Thanks for the idea.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
June 30 2009 07:27 GMT
#54
jaedong's card has a rough draft on the back? </3

:D thanks!
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 30 2009 07:28 GMT
#55
On June 30 2009 16:23 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 16:16 lilsusie wrote:
Neggy - have you linked any of the players to these threads? I'm sure they would like to see your finalized messages too. Make them feel closer to the foreign fans. ^^

Awesome project, good job!!


I might print out the cards in the near future and give them to the players involved so they can see the results of the research I promised to post this on the Hwaseung site so I'm going to tonight ^^ Thanks for the idea.
What if you do the opposite of these cards: we write many fanboi messages to them, you print it and hand it out to them. Just to give them a notion of how much foreign fans they have (they might not know?)

If it's not too much trouble of course ^^
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
June 30 2009 07:30 GMT
#56
GO NEVERGG!! :D:D:D:D:D<3
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
June 30 2009 07:53 GMT
#57
this is so awesome!

We need a lot more of this
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toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
June 30 2009 08:00 GMT
#58
Hi NeverGG
first off Thank you for all your hard work!
I really like Backho and Lomo's message.
It seems like every other message are all generic saying how they thank us fans.
It'll be cool if you can get them to write something about themselves. FOr example Backho thanking us about the card we gave him is really cool and Lomo talking about him liking micro-intensive play and strategies instead of standard play is really cool and interesting too.

If we can get more unique messages instead of generic ones I think it would be more interesting to read. Sorry if I am asking too much.
DIE!!!
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
June 30 2009 08:26 GMT
#59
thx nevergg!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 30 2009 08:31 GMT
#60
Awesome Jaedong will get his blizzcon ticket in gom for sure!

Thanks nevergg you rock!
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
June 30 2009 08:37 GMT
#61
On June 30 2009 16:28 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2009 16:23 NeverGG wrote:
On June 30 2009 16:16 lilsusie wrote:
Neggy - have you linked any of the players to these threads? I'm sure they would like to see your finalized messages too. Make them feel closer to the foreign fans. ^^

Awesome project, good job!!


I might print out the cards in the near future and give them to the players involved so they can see the results of the research I promised to post this on the Hwaseung site so I'm going to tonight ^^ Thanks for the idea.
What if you do the opposite of these cards: we write many fanboi messages to them, you print it and hand it out to them. Just to give them a notion of how much foreign fans they have (they might not know?)

If it's not too much trouble of course ^^


I tried to organize this for CJ, but there just weren't enough messages to make a decently sized card. I might have a go later on if there is time.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 08:41:33
June 30 2009 08:41 GMT
#62
On June 30 2009 17:00 toopham wrote:
Hi NeverGG
first off Thank you for all your hard work!
I really like Backho and Lomo's message.
It seems like every other message are all generic saying how they thank us fans.
It'll be cool if you can get them to write something about themselves. FOr example Backho thanking us about the card we gave him is really cool and Lomo talking about him liking micro-intensive play and strategies instead of standard play is really cool and interesting too.

If we can get more unique messages instead of generic ones I think it would be more interesting to read. Sorry if I am asking too much.


I've already addressed this issue - basically I don't speak enough Korean and the coaches/managers generally don't know enough English to communicate anything particularly specific. It is possible with CJ, eSTRO and We Made to ask way more specific themes because they all have English speaking coaches. I'm working on expanding it and pre-preparing 'research' surveys asking more specific questions, but as for these two sets - I had no control over them once the book left my hands (especially the T1 messages because Mumyung took the book backstage and I only got it back from Bisu about 30 minutes later.)

I *knew* a few people would complain about the 'generic' messages, but for a first round of messages I think we've done decently - it's not a project which only stops here - I'm planning on keeping it going throughout the season which as many different gamers/questions/etc as possible. This takes planning, time and translation so please be patient with myself and Konadora - I have to also organize photoshoots and take event photos on site so I am really, really busy most of the time.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-02 20:20:34
July 02 2009 20:20 GMT
#63
I actually don't mind the 'generic' messages too much, as actually SEEING the handwriting and pictures of them filling them out is extra special. If you didn't have those, it would be much much worse. Either way, I appreciate what you do in spite of the language discrepancies.
Chains none
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
July 03 2009 19:03 GMT
#64
Oh! I can't believe I missed seeing this.

Thank you so much NeverGG and Kona.
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