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A History of Terran vs. Zerg - Page 4

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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 14:21:26
May 29 2009 14:20 GMT
#61
It was awesome really.
And i'm glad someone finally did this. I was really intrested in it. since i joined the scene(around the time Flash one the OSL) Terrans owned the zergs everywhere (+ZvT was my worst mu) which made me think TvZ is way easier than ZvT. I'm glad i have some stats to look at now. That 38% period is just insane, if you consider that starcraft is known as the most balanced RTS ever. Zergs are doing well against T for now, fortunately.

Altough i think you made a mistake:
Terrans achieve 71:57 (44.53%)
(probably you counted it as 57: 71)
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 29 2009 14:21 GMT
#62
nice read
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
May 29 2009 14:44 GMT
#63
graet article, it's nice reading about starcraft history
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 29 2009 15:14 GMT
#64
excellent post!
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 29 2009 15:31 GMT
#65
Awesome post! TY! Zerg ftw.
Jaedong :3
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
May 29 2009 16:11 GMT
#66
Very interesting, thanks for the article!
klizzer
Profile Joined March 2008
517 Posts
May 29 2009 16:26 GMT
#67
Thanks for the translation!
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
May 29 2009 16:43 GMT
#68
WoW that is just insane.. thx for the translation =D
Nice read a little history for us.
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
sLiMpoweR
Profile Joined March 2009
United States430 Posts
May 29 2009 16:44 GMT
#69
not even a mention that boxer brought back to valk ?
Team aMg
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 29 2009 16:54 GMT
#70
On May 30 2009 01:44 gophillies3939 wrote:
not even a mention that boxer brought back to valk ?


Boxer didnt bring back the valk, it was just the build Terrans used on Plasma, where Terrans used valks to deal with 2hat muta. Midas or Mind were the first to use it, then Fantasy adapted the build to work on all maps by dship play and caused mech resurgence.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 29 2009 16:56 GMT
#71
On May 30 2009 01:54 samachking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2009 01:44 gophillies3939 wrote:
not even a mention that boxer brought back to valk ?


Boxer didnt bring back the valk, it was just the build Terrans used on Plasma, where Terrans used valks to deal with 2hat muta. Midas or Mind were the first to use it, then Fantasy adapted the build to work on all maps by dship play and caused mech resurgence.



I remember the Boxer vs Baxter games in GOM where Boxer did that, and Tl had some LOL WTF posts. Then afterwards Fantasy used it in Starleagues to beat zergs down.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
May 29 2009 17:51 GMT
#72
interesting post. pvt pls?
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
May 29 2009 17:54 GMT
#73
Nice work man! +1
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
May 29 2009 18:06 GMT
#74
very nice work !

TvZ was and will always be the most interesting match up (boxer vs yellow ftw)
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
May 29 2009 18:18 GMT
#75
Awesome post man! Really enjoyable to read and very well written.
Zerg_Sasuke
Profile Joined June 2008
176 Posts
May 29 2009 18:36 GMT
#76
Nice
^^
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
May 29 2009 19:04 GMT
#77
very nice
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7498 Posts
May 29 2009 19:24 GMT
#78
Valks have been used sporadically since late 2007. Light vs jaedong, nada vs jaedong and I believe 1 upmagic game also. Boxer used valks as a 1 base counter to mutas, I think that was new, but overall valks vs mutas isn't.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
May 29 2009 19:39 GMT
#79
There's a difference between using valks and standardizing valks, like how fantasy has done. Nowadays, every tvz game I can recall has use of Valkyries, even if only in the beginning to deter mutas while the m&m ball is strengthened and the tech tree is climbed. I can only think of casy vs roro on outsider and that's because he used old school one base play, rather than the 2 base macro style that has become the standard for modern tvz.
Sullifam
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7498 Posts
May 29 2009 19:40 GMT
#80
you really can't think of any recent tvzs that don't include valks?

Do you need a list?

other then that I agree with you, fantasy brought out the ballerness that is valks.
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